- Joined
- Aug 12, 2022
Some sperging:
I've known about SS for a while and have brought it up only twice, ever, in online chats. Just mentioning it in a conversation. One chat immediately deleted the mention and surrounding conversation, in the other it was an instaban. The mere mention of the site's existence is enough to cause people to become incensed. The topic of suicide in any context that isn't discussing it after it's happened, or discussing preventing it, is probably the most taboo topic I have ever seen in most online discussion groups. Even in edgy chats where people sling words about rape and gay nigger pozloads, they're liable to become uncomfortable and serious over it.
My personal view is that this behavior is a symptom of a major societal problem - that suicide rates are on the rise because of many factors, and that suicide is affecting so many families and social circles. Something like one in 400 or so people in the USA and other developed nations are known or presumed to have died from COVID-19. Most people have had a family member, friend, colleague, community member or acquaintance die from it or related complications at some point. But when someone dies from the Wuhan Wheeze, people blame the virus, or the government, or the anti-vaxxers, China, et cetera. There's someone or something to blame.
With suicide, a lot of people close to the victim feel self-doubts or guilt. "What could I have said or done to help?" "Why wasn't I there more?" "Did something I did or said contribute?" They may be grieving, or they center themselves in the person's death in some manner and feel guilt. So this website's existence as a place where suicide is discussed by people considering it, and where it isn't being actively discouraged at every opportunity, becomes a massive lightning rod for that grief and guilt to be channeled into revulsion and anger. Either anger because they've lost someone close, or anger as a form of alleviating their guilt and doubt through outrage.
To me the contentiousness of the topic means it's one that should be discussed. People should be asking why a website like this exists and why so many people post there. As has been mentioned, discussion about this topic has existed online for a very long time now. The fact it's grown to such a degree that there's a whole well trafficked online forum for it with tens of thousands of active users, is a symptom of how fucked up things are for a lot of people, and it needs to be asked why this is happening and what can be done to help change that.
I knew someone who was once relatively normal, slipped into troonery, experienced increasing depression and social problems as they progressed through hormones and surgery. One day they just walked past their roommates without a word, drove off somewhere, and killed themselves with an OD. No warning, no suicide note, nothing. Whatever thoughts they had leading up to them doing it, they never talked about them anywhere or gave any warning. It makes me wonder if they'd known about SS, whether it might have been a place where they'd have said something, and whether talking about it might have changed the outcome. Not talking about it obviously didn't.
I've known about SS for a while and have brought it up only twice, ever, in online chats. Just mentioning it in a conversation. One chat immediately deleted the mention and surrounding conversation, in the other it was an instaban. The mere mention of the site's existence is enough to cause people to become incensed. The topic of suicide in any context that isn't discussing it after it's happened, or discussing preventing it, is probably the most taboo topic I have ever seen in most online discussion groups. Even in edgy chats where people sling words about rape and gay nigger pozloads, they're liable to become uncomfortable and serious over it.
My personal view is that this behavior is a symptom of a major societal problem - that suicide rates are on the rise because of many factors, and that suicide is affecting so many families and social circles. Something like one in 400 or so people in the USA and other developed nations are known or presumed to have died from COVID-19. Most people have had a family member, friend, colleague, community member or acquaintance die from it or related complications at some point. But when someone dies from the Wuhan Wheeze, people blame the virus, or the government, or the anti-vaxxers, China, et cetera. There's someone or something to blame.
With suicide, a lot of people close to the victim feel self-doubts or guilt. "What could I have said or done to help?" "Why wasn't I there more?" "Did something I did or said contribute?" They may be grieving, or they center themselves in the person's death in some manner and feel guilt. So this website's existence as a place where suicide is discussed by people considering it, and where it isn't being actively discouraged at every opportunity, becomes a massive lightning rod for that grief and guilt to be channeled into revulsion and anger. Either anger because they've lost someone close, or anger as a form of alleviating their guilt and doubt through outrage.
To me the contentiousness of the topic means it's one that should be discussed. People should be asking why a website like this exists and why so many people post there. As has been mentioned, discussion about this topic has existed online for a very long time now. The fact it's grown to such a degree that there's a whole well trafficked online forum for it with tens of thousands of active users, is a symptom of how fucked up things are for a lot of people, and it needs to be asked why this is happening and what can be done to help change that.
I knew someone who was once relatively normal, slipped into troonery, experienced increasing depression and social problems as they progressed through hormones and surgery. One day they just walked past their roommates without a word, drove off somewhere, and killed themselves with an OD. No warning, no suicide note, nothing. Whatever thoughts they had leading up to them doing it, they never talked about them anywhere or gave any warning. It makes me wonder if they'd known about SS, whether it might have been a place where they'd have said something, and whether talking about it might have changed the outcome. Not talking about it obviously didn't.
