Satanist Community - Lolcow Religion of Edgelords

[KingGeedorah]

 

[autisticdragonkin]

http://theisticsatanism.wikia.com
satanism wiki

 

[Gagamaru]

its like edgy teenage drama dressed up as religion.

 

[Mark Corrigan]

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Puny weakling Christians tremble as Evanyell exercises his supremacy and unleashes his inner beast at his Walmart checkout.

 

[drain]

His odd interests marked him as an outsider, and he did not alleviate this by feeling any compulsion to be “one of the boys.” He despised gym class and team sports and often cut classes to follow his own interests.

Color me shocked...
Why the majority of edgelords/smartpants hates sports? These guys functions on 8 or 80, it's incredible.

 

[Too Many Crooks]

If Satan is the Prince of Darkness, then who is the King? Checkmate, Satanists!

Thanks for the entertaining thread, @dollarhuviya -I loved the ED thread @Splendid Meat Sticks posted as well.

Satanism is fun to read about for me because it's such a try-hard religion/philosophy/ideology/whatever. Five or six years ago, I read The Satanic Bible to research for a horror story I was writing at the time, and it was so funny to me, especially after finding out that Anton LaVey was a circus carny who made a living out of duping people.

If you want an example of how "edgy" Satanists can be, read "Night Stalker" by Phillip Carlo. It's a true crime book about the vicious serial killer, serial rapist, and self-proclaimed Satanist Richard Ramirez.

Quite a few Satanists (including LaVey himself) visited and supported Ramirez while he was in custody before and during his trial. Some of Ramirez' creepy fangirls who wrote him love letters detailing their freaky sexual attraction and fantasies were also Satanists. wow

I posted this in another thread, but I thought it could fit here, too.
http://www.dpjs.co.uk/elitism.html
http://www.dpjs.co.uk/misanthropy.html

 

[Jungle Princess]

If Satan is the Prince of Darkness, then who is the King? Checkmate, Satanists!

That's what I'm wondering.

 

[Abethedemon]

If Satan is the Prince of Darkness, then who is the King? Checkmate, Satanists!

Sorry to necro the thread for this, but there are governments known as principalities, which are ruled by princes. The bible also says in Ephesians 6:12-13 "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
Strangely enough, a lot of Satanists -of all kinds have read the Bible. I know some that empathize with the character of Job.

 

[Zeorus]

Honestly, any kind of occultism (Hermeticism, Thelema, Kabbalah) is a breeding ground for lolcows. This has me wondering if Augustus Sol Invictus might have inhabited any Thelemite forums. I'll do some digging.

 

[glue eater]

Satanic Temple has recently been in news due to a Christian guy roundhouse kicking Baphomet's head off. So I am doing a mega-necro because I have found some delicious content which I have been unable to share yet. I have covered Order of Nine Angles before in the Atomwaffen thread, but satanists are such a large group with surprisingly much diversity of thought, I have only chipped at the corner of this lolcow community.

There has been years long shit flinging between Church of Satan, its splinter The Satanic Temple and its splinter the Global Order of Satan. Why do they need so many groups? Because according to each of the group the previous ones are ran by nazis. Here's a taste of the content supposedly shared by nazis:

I will be using quote extensively because I am covering multiple years worth of content.

The receipts for Lucian Greaves (leader of TST) being a secret nazi:;

Satanic Temple is actually fascist:

articles up reporting on fascism and abuse within the Satanic Temple before our WordPress got taken down. We’re going to be reuploading them here, covering TST’s troubling alt-right associations and politics.

TST is a religious and political activist group that puts forth the facade of a progressive organization that does activism for human and civil rights and makes a safe space for LGBTQA+ individuals and others who are in vulnerable and oppressed communities. TST also does work and hosts events that counter religious oppression and its encroachment into the State and politics. It should be noted that TST has done good and legitimate work on these fronts in the past, and credit should be given where it is due. But the unfortunate reality is that, from the top-down, TST is a crypto-fascist organization with some members being outright neo-nazis. Of course, it must be mentioned that TST has some members who aren’t neo-nazis or neo-fascists and some are even antifascist; that said, we encourage those who are antifascists within TST to take a hard look at the reality of the organization they’re involved with and consider exiting the group.

It should be clear at the outset here that Trident Antifa are not disgruntled ex-members who suddenly have a vendetta against the organization. We’re simply reporting on fascism within organizations like the Satanic Temple.

It’s important to view these #AltRightTST articles with nuance and to take in the whole breadth of TST’s leanings and flirtations with fascism, what we call “the fascist creep” (the creeping of fascism into other non-fascist cultures and subcultures). Therefore, it’s important to pay attention to the more restrained, held back, less noticeable, and implicit politics that lend to fascism within TST, such as its views on free speech and hate speech, as well as looking at, specifically, TST co-founder Doug Misicko’s (AKA Lucien Greaves/Doug Mesner) views on antifa and the modern antifascist movement (he’s staunchly against antifa, taking a pro-fascist anti-antifa stance). With that said, in this series, we’ll be covering such things as free speech; Doug’s views on activism, protest, and violence; to TST’s outright and explicit associations with alt-right figures and neo-fascists. Looking at all of this in tandem will paint a clear picture that shows Doug’s and TST’s crypto- and pro-fascism.

Free Speech​

It’s not hard to find what Doug’s views are on free and hate speech online. For example, here’s a video where Doug claims that punching nazis legitimizes them and gives them exactly what they want. This, of course, is a prominent (and tired) argument that liberals are quick to give in rebuking antifascist protesters and it’s often heard along with dishonest claims that antifascists are just as violent as nazis and that they actually are nazis, which is also another claim that Doug has made in the past.

In an interview with Haute Macabre, Doug says that he defends Milo Yiannopoulos’ right to free speech, and that includes Yiannopoulos’ attacks on a transgender student. Not only that, Doug includes his support for Yiannopoulos’ factually incorrect and bigoted claims that transgender people suffer from a “psychiatric disorder” and that trans women are essentially sexual predators who invade women’s bathrooms. Furthermore, in the interview, Doug says that he’s never listened to Yiannopoulos speak, but even still, he doesn’t actually care about the content of Yiannopoulos’ words.

Doug goes on to say that if Milo has posed a legitimate danger to people in inciting violence, defamation, or in invading their privacy that these people should consult civil courts and legal representation. But this overlooks the fact that the legal process can, in turn, further victimize trans people and other vulnerable or minority groups; not to mention that legal institutions and the State, in general, are systems that uphold white supremacy and patriarchy. In the same breath, Doug claims that antifascists suffer from cognitive dissonance and that they, the antifascists, are in fact the ones who are acting like fascists, and that hate speech itself should be protected under the first amendment.

Doug also says that antifascist protestors are the ones responsible for creating the wave of celebrity that Yiannopoulos enjoyed, who are “ignorant little assholes” who cause violence for the sake of violence and who target innocent and random people in the streets. This is entirely dishonest, as antifascists organize to deplatform specific fascists who target real, tangible, flesh-and-blood people who aren’t guilty of anything save for being a specific skin color, gender, sexual orientation, etc. Doug’s claim of violence also overlooks the other work that antifascists do which consists of non-violent actions, such as researching for countless hours fascists and fascist organizations, putting together resources and information that make their communities aware of fascists in their area, doing community actions such as food drives and solidarity events, and doxxing campaigns that out violent fascists and rallying to get them fired. It must be reiterated that violently opposing fascists in the streets isn’t the only action that antifascists undertake, while they fully acknowledge that fascism must be physically opposed with violence if need be.

On the claim that opposing fascists gives them the attention they want, it would seem that this has been falsified, as prominent fascists and alt-right figures have seen a decline in organizing and have had their funding stripped in some cases, such as, you guessed it, Milo Yiannopoulos.

But wait until you read Doug’s hot take on punching nazis and fascism in the US today. He’s entirely against punching them and he dishonestly asserts that antifascists go out of their way to engage in brawls and engage in indiscriminate violence. He thinks that the Nazi Party isn’t going to gain prominence and he overlooks the resurgent rise of fascism here in the US. At all times, he downplays the role and violence that fascism is having in recent events. In fact, the interview in which he says all this was published June 28th, 2017, just two months prior to the deadly Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville in which white supremacists rallied chanting “Jews will not replace us” and which culminated with James Alex Fields Jr. running his car into a crowd of people. (As an aside, we recommend following Emily Gorcenski [@EmilyGorcenski] and Molly [@socialistdogmom] on Twitter specifically for information on the groups and people who were active in Charlottesville for Unite the Right. Additionally, check out Emily’s site First Vigil which tracks court cases involving fascists, and Molly’s Patreon.)

Alt-Right Lawyer Marc Randazza​

The Satanic Temple has recently run into controversy involving Doug’s decision to use alt-right lawyer and Twitter troll Marc Randazza to represent the temple in a religious discrimination case pro bono, that is, free of charge. Randazza has, of course, represented neo-nazis in the past such as Andrew Anglin of the Daily Stormer and has represented InfoWars dingbat and alleged Proud Boy Alex Jones. The decision to recruit Randazza has resulted in some TST members exiting the organization and even some prominent members documenting abuse that has went on in TST.

Just as Doug did in supporting Yiannopoulos, in a Vox article Doug said that he didn’t research Randazza’s politics and further, that he doesn’t care what Randazza’s views actually are and that Randazza’s views should be of no consequence to him or TST. At all times when Doug is questioned he blatantly admits that he has no regard whatsoever about the content of the words that problematic, bigoted alt-righters espouse: Doug seems to be completely fine with the fascists he sympathizes with espousing hate speech such as that which demonizes trans people as having mental disorders, that Jews are subhumans who need to be eradicated, or that African Americans and other people of color should be killed or enslaved based on their skin tone.

In the Vox article, it’s said in passing that through Doug’s associating with troubling people such as Randazza that TST is too willing to let the voices of its membership, straight and white men, crowd out the wishes of a diverse membership. The claim is on point here but it’s lacking information about TST’s central administration, the co-founders of TST: Doug Misicko (Lucien Greaves/Doug Mesner) and Cevin Soling (Malcolm Jarry). While Doug acts as a spokesman for TST, Cevin Soling seems to be the sole person responsible for TST’s funding. In reuploading this series, we’ll be providing profiles on both Doug and Cevin, but for now, all we’ll add about Cevin is that he denies Israel perpetuates genocide against the children of Palestine and he seems to be an unwavering Zionist nationalist. Both are white, cisgender men who, as we’ll show throughout this series, don’t actually care about a diverse membership or about its current members who are part of LGBTQA+ and vulnerable communities, and that they both are tied to the alt-right.

Alt-Right Associations​

As it turns out, there are some TST national council members who have associations with alt-right figures. One such council member is Greg Stevens. He’s friends on Twitter with Mike Cernovich, who’s a male supremacist, a violent rapist, and rape apologist. Cernovich also has ties to violent far-right street gang the Proud Boys. He’s supported them financially, raising up to $87,000 for Kyle “Based Stickman” Chapman and donating $5,000 for transportation to one of the Proud Boys’ violent “Free Speech” rallies. The Proud Boys claim to not be affiliated with nazis but they regularly have nazis in their ranks.

Stevens’ also appears to be friends with Yiannopoulos.

Additionally, Stevens has interviewed Mike Cervovich numerous times on his YouTube channel where Cernovich is given a platform to defend his bigoted behavior. And despite all of this, it appears that Doug is completely fine with his national council members freely associating with and giving a platform to violent and bigoted alt-right people.

What is more, and what goes a long way in showing Doug’s and TST’s crypto-fascism, Doug has rallied for fascists such as Augustus Sol Invictus having a platform on which they can spread hateful rhetoric about white ethnostates, purging deplorables and degenerates, and demonizing marginalized people. Invictus is a fascist alt-right figure, white supremacist “identitarian” who has called for a violent second civil war to preserve “Western civilization”. He’s also a Holocaust denier and has advocated for eugenics, even writing about it in a paper he wrote for law school that he titled “Future or Ruin”, which is the same name of a speech that Hitler gave in 1921.

In 2016, organizers of the International Left Hand Path Consortium had invited Invictus to be a guest speaker, but pressure from antifascists caused them to cancel Invuctus’ appearance. As it turns out, Doug was also invited to be a guest speaker; however, he was dismayed at the decision to deplatform Invictus and so he had a temper tantrum where he withdrew himself as a speaker. Doug stated that “the dis-invitation sends a harmful message in support of censorship.” Doug also said, just as in his supporting of Yiannopoulos and Randazza, that he was unfamiliar with Invictus. This is a piss-poor attempt on Doug’s part at plausible deniability. It seems that whenever Doug expresses his support for some bigoted alt-righter, he can leave an out for himself by claiming ignorance of the views of those that he supports. This is a crypto-fascist tactic, and we’ll come to see more of this behavior throughout this series.

Through Doug’s troubling personal politics and in his managing TST and acting as a spokesperson, it’s clear that he and TST are just A-Okay with absolute free speech, including hate speech that demonizes and discriminates based groundlessly on race, gender, sexuality, etc. Doug has demonstrated himself to be entirely in bed with the alt-right and he wholeheartedly supports, tolerates, and sympathizes with fascists like Augustus Sol Invictus, and it’s clear what his stance is regarding protest and antifascism, that is, that he’s entirely against antifascism. At all times, Doug has demonstrated himself to be a useful idiot for far- and alt-right figures to gain entry into his organization, and he exposes those marginalized and vulnerable individuals in TST to the fascist creep. This is entirely reprehensible and deplorable, as TST bills itself a vehicle for progress and social justice.

If you’re looking for alternative, countercultural, or subcultural religion, or a social justice political group, we recommend staying clear of the Satanic Temple, as it’s entirely a crypto-fascist organization. We encourage antifascists to show up, protest, and shut down the public events that TST put on.

Do I believe the Satanic Temple is a nazi group? Absolutely not, you must have seen them in the news defending public anal sex and abortions, its one of the gayest groups out there, but I have to cover this to explain the drama between pozzed satanic factions.

Now, TST is known for its stunts for abortion rights, and occasionally they end up in Kiwifarms, like this:

The Satanic Abortion Clinic That’s Pissed Off Pretty Much Everyone...and Might Beat the Bans Anyway​

To quote myself:

Here's a hot take: Satanic Temple has tried dozens of times to bypass abortion bans by presenting abortion as a religious ritual, but they have lost every single time they've tried it in the legal system. They grift money from leftist redditors and have ended up torching probably hundreds of thousands of dollars. If you're anti-abortion, Satanic Temple is your ally. And every time they try again, some news organization publishes an article like "WOW, satanists fighting for abortion, aint that whacky", it gets reposted to reddit and they get a score of new paypigs wasting their money that could be used to fight for abortion in much more productive ways, there're plenty of reproductive rights orgs that actually stand a chance in courts.

Enough walls of text, time for primo content, the satanic cringe:

GOS disavowed TST's bigotry and showed their support for LGBTPQ by doing Black Mass against Polish homophobes:

Self-explanatory, All Gas on Brakes on Satancon:

Idaho Satanists plan 'gender affirmation ritual' to protest ban on surgeries for children: 'I praise myself'​

Now, some prime cringe from Finland. Even Order of Nine Angles is more prominent here than Global Order of Satan, but they're a powerhouse of cringe despite their small size. They recently took part in an antiracism demo:

They drew a swastika on a babyborn doll and three arrows over it and hanged it and said a prayer. Ow, so edgy.

IN THE NAME OF OUR GOD SATAN LUCIFER EXCEL

Ahriman, Semiyaza, Leviathan, Lilith, Azazel, Beelsebub, Mammon, Mephistopheles, PERKELE!

It is no longer I who speak, but Satan in me - for I and the Devil have become one flesh. I don't speak with my own mouth, but I pronounce with a bigger mouth -with the widest jaws. So hear what that great horned Satan has to say!

THIS CURSE IS FALLING ON THE CURRENT RACIST GOVERNMENT! Over every racist member of parliament, every populist petty fascist and every pliable centrist; to everyone who hates racists and hangs out with them.

THE SHAME OF THIS GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN BROUGHT FOR ALL TO SEE! BE TERRIFIED, O NATIONS, AND WITNESS THE JUDGMENT OF THE PRINCE OF THIS WORLD TIME: In the name and power of Satan, this government is falling apart! The stamp of eternal shame will be burned on their foreheads! They are stripped naked, lied in tar, wrapped in feathers and run through the streets of the city - so that everyone can see: Here is a disgusting racist - a real piece of human shit, not even fit to smell.

Let this curse fall especially on Prime Minister Petteri Orpo and Kokoumus, which has assembled the government. You are a spineless leader! A toothless donkey, a watered-down bastard! You get to carry tapeworms in your stomach for the rest of your days!

May this curse fall on Riikka Purra and the Basic Finns, whose party is an unpatriotic plague made up of cheap racists. People everywhere will feel your actions and turn their eyes away from your suffering. Your stomach will be pierced and your pus will be poured out into the street for the dogs to lick.

May this curse fall on Sari Essayah and the Christian Democrats. Blinded by your misanthropic lifestyle and superstition, you have set yourself up as oppressors – betraying all that is holy by which you swear. May the fate of your faith be total deconstruction, apostasy from your convictions and spiritual obsolescence, until you curse your Lord three times and sell your inheritance cheaply. You will be shunned like a leper and turned away from the temple gates.

May this curse fall on Anna-Maja Henrikson and the Finnish Swedish People's Party. You have had the opportunity to leave the government and correct your wrong choices - but you still hang on to the handle of power and sit at the racists' table. You haven't used your tongue, so it will be ripped out, tar will be poured down your throat and your teeth will be crushed. Fy Fan!

SHEM HA MEPHORASH! SATAN HAS SPOKE! THE CURSE IS BROKEN! BUT LISTEN O PEOPLE FOR SURELY THE DEVIL IS GREAT AND GREAT! HIS WRATH BURNS LIKE THE FLAMES OF AN ETERNAL HORN! LISTEN, OH FALLING GOVERNMENT, BECAUSE YOU WILL GET EVEN HARDER REFUNDS!

RACISTS WILL NEVER LEAD FINLAND! The rebellion against the oppressors will be eternal and complete! I will spread my wings of leather over this people and drive my thorn into their flesh.
I will raise the guillotines on the steps of the parliament building!
I WILL tie the death knot on the gallows!
I transport the larders to the gravel pit!
I will release the snakes to the plenary session of the parliament!
I will cook the poison for the Castle Festival bool!
I will lay an ambush in your path!
I will send assassins to your buttocks!

I AM THAT I AM
HILEL-BEN-SHAHAR - BRIGHTEST MORNING STAR
HAIL SATAN - HAIL SATAN - HAIL SATAN

Recently a Finnish Atomwaffen cell made news, and the TST people shat their pants and denounced racist satanism:

If this would get us restarted.

Edit: It occurred to me I never explained why TST split from Church of Satan. Basically Anton Lavey used the word nigger and faggot, also he was friends with James Mason (the siege man, not the actor). That's it in a nutshell.

 

[Cedric_Eff]

As cringe as Christians can be, I find these people insufferable in their own way. It’s like “I get it, you got serious parental issues or some sort of malfunction.”

 

[glue eater]

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Edit: It occurred to me I never explained why TST split from Church of Satan. Basically Anton Lavey used the word nigger and faggot, also he was friends with James Mason (the siege man, not the actor). That's it in a nutshell.

Why did they switch from being left-wing Satanists to being a Satanic-themed ACLU? It feels like you rarely ever hear about their actual doctrine (beside "we worship Satan, who teaches 100% the same things as a 21st century progressive leftist") or ever encounter them outside of news stories reading about Satanists suing someone. You rarely (if ever) hear about the Church of Satan suing people to put Satan monuments everywhere.

As cringe as Christians can be, I find these people insufferable in their own way. It’s like “I get it, you got serious parental issues or some sort of malfunction.”

The problem with Satanists is their doctrines are just knockoffs of other philosophies and religions. Church of Satan rips off Ayn Rand and Objectivism. The Satanic Temple are just generic leftists. Theistic Satanism and anti-cosmic Satanism is just ripoffs of gnosticism with some Sumerian bullshit inserted here and there. What's so appealing about this other than "hurr hurr I'm offending mom and dad!"

 

[Cedric_Eff]

Why did they switch from being left-wing Satanists to being a Satanic-themed ACLU? It feels like you rarely ever hear about their actual doctrine (beside "we worship Satan, who teaches 100% the same things as a 21st century progressive leftist") or ever encounter them outside of news stories reading about Satanists suing someone. You rarely (if ever) hear about the Church of Satan suing people to put Satan monuments everywhere.

The problem with Satanists is their doctrines are just knockoffs of other philosophies and religions. Church of Satan rips off Ayn Rand and Objectivism. The Satanic Temple are just generic leftists. Theistic Satanism and anti-cosmic Satanism is just ripoffs of gnosticism with some Sumerian bullshit inserted here and there. What's so appealing about this other than "hurr hurr I'm offending mom and dad!"

That’s all it is at the end of the day is literal Reddit mentality of “IM SO COOL AND COUNTER CULTURE!”

 

[glue eater]

Why did they switch from being left-wing Satanists to being a Satanic-themed ACLU? It feels like you rarely ever hear about their actual doctrine (beside "we worship Satan, who teaches 100% the same things as a 21st century progressive leftist") or ever encounter them outside of news stories reading about Satanists suing someone. You rarely (if ever) hear about the Church of Satan suing people to put Satan monuments everywhere.

TST's starting premise was distancing itself from right-wing individualist libertarian satanism of COS. You never see COS pulling off faggot shit like "satanic abortion clinic". TST started the (very unsuccessful) lawfare right from the beginning. I know this might not be a deep, analytic answer you were hoping for, but TST is built on the idea of being obnoxious leftist faggots, that's all there is to it.

 

[RollingRock2]

https://kiwifarms.st/members/madre-muerte.84747/

@Madre Muerte is a gay zoophile nazi satanist that hangs out in gen chat

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

What's so appealing about this other than "hurr hurr I'm offending mom and dad!"

It all makes sense when you realize that they're worshipping a millennia old teenager with daddy issues.

An overgrown manchild that was so incredibly obnoxious that God Himself disowned the twat and threw him out of the house.

 

[Nouvostonolion]

I listen to black metal and was immediately put off by the number of freaks in the adjacent satanist community back when getting into the genre as a teen. Almost everyone I've ever met from the community who calls themselves a "satanist" is a degenerate with serious mental problems.

 

[WTBOnlineFather]

Almost everyone I've ever met from the community who calls themselves a "satanist" is a degenerate with serious mental problems.

I don't think that's limited to black metal, brother.

This thread is really funny. Who'da thunk there'd be no unity under Satan, especially when 99% of people who subscribe to these beliefs literally only do it out of spite.

 

[Nouvostonolion]

I don't think that's limited to black metal, brother.

Oh yeah! It's definitely not just limited to black metal, that's sadly just where most of my direct experience with these types comes from.