SBC / Low Power boards general - Raspberry Pi and what not

  • 🐕 I am attempting to get the site runnning as fast as possible. If you are experiencing slow page load times, please report it.
Thoughts on the portable SBC scene? Talking more about the chink handheld scene that has been blowing up. Some of it looks to impressive (Retroid, Ayn, Miyoo, Odroid) whereas others look more miss & hit (Powkiddy, Anbernic)
 
Thoughts on the portable SBC scene? Talking more about the chink handheld scene that has been blowing up. Some of it looks to impressive (Retroid, Ayn, Miyoo, Odroid) whereas others look more miss & hit (Powkiddy, Anbernic)
A lot of it used to be focused around ARM chips. Then the Steam Deck released and now there's an explosion of x86 devices. So it'll be interesting to see what happens.

Not Mine. from the /r/sbcgaming subreddit.

The most exciting thing is the KT-R1 right now. Its got a ARM cpu that supposed to be on-par with the Snapdragon 845. So the era of Portable PS2 gaming on ARM is soon upon us. I think it'll be even more so when these handhelds start using the rk3588 and its varients.
 
Last edited:
  • Informative
Reactions: Bananadana
Thoughts on the portable SBC scene? Talking more about the chink handheld scene that has been blowing up. Some of it looks to impressive (Retroid, Ayn, Miyoo, Odroid) whereas others look more miss & hit (Powkiddy, Anbernic)
A lot of it used to be focused around ARM chips. Then the Steam Deck released and now there's an explosion of x86 devices. So it'll be interesting to see what happens.

Not Mine. from the /r/sbcgaming subreddit.

The most exciting thing is the KT-R1 right now. Its got a ARM cpu that supposed to be on-par with the Snapdragon 845. So the era of Portable PS2 gaming on ARM is soon upon us. I think it'll be even more so when these handhelds start using the rk3588 and its varients.

There were so many announcements, especially from AYA NEO: AIR, AIR PLUS, NEXT 2, PRO, Slide, Flip, GEEK, WTF. And there were some x86 handhelds before the Steam Deck, but with high pricing or dumb specs. Many are still dumb. Let's pay $300 for a Mendocino APU with 1/4 the size of the $400 Steam Deck's iGPU. It's too bad Mendocino was not a 1:1 copy of the Steam Deck semi-custom APU. An argument could be made for 6800U handhelds, but they're expensive and drain more power.

I saw the KT-R1. What about the Ayn Odin, which has Snapdragon 845 or Dimensity 900?

If I got a handheld, I would want to use it as a docked mini PC. Definitely x86, probably a Steam Deck 2. Support Valve for dragging Linux gaming into the mainstream. By which I mean a 1.25% market share instead of 1.0%.
 
  • Thunk-Provoking
Reactions: tehpope
I gave up on finding a decent ARM SBC with a good amount of SATA ports and bought a refurbed low power Mini-ITX Intel Atom board for 20$ instead.
Not sure if you can call it an SBC.
 
I gave up on finding a decent ARM SBC with a good amount of SATA ports and bought a refurbed low power Mini-ITX Intel Atom board for 20$ instead.
Not sure if you can call it an SBC.
I think the autists would say it's no longer an SBC if it has socketed RAM. I'd just call it a damn good deal, and pretty small.
 
I REALLY wish someone would sell an AIO system where the CPU and GPU shared a single radiator to cut the size down.
I want to see a cheap AM5 Mini-ITX kit (case, mobo, fan, PSU). Only 2 RAM slots, with no expectation of using a GPU, or make the case stackable like the re_Computer case so it can optionally fit more. Now that possibly all AM5 CPUs include graphics, this would be a good retirement plan for a Ryzen 5 7600, for example.

On the Intel side, I want to see them challenge AMD's desktop APUs by making socketed versions of at least a couple of their mobile chips of the generation. For example, Alder Lake and Raptor Lake desktop CPUs have up to UHD 770 graphics with 32 execution units. But mobile goes up to Iris Xe G7 with 96 execution units. They are expected to increase that to hundreds in future generations.
 
One thing that I would like to see is a mini-itx like SBC but that it doesn't cheap out on peripherals. For example the rk3588 supports multiple SATA connectors, pci-e and multiple gigabit Ethernet inputs.

This can easily become a great mini-ITX low power NAS or media server and even a basic but good server but they always compromise in some parts of it.

RK3588-Block-Diagram.jpg
 
One thing that I would like to see is a mini-itx like SBC but that it doesn't cheap out on peripherals. For example the rk3588 supports multiple SATA connectors, pci-e and multiple gigabit Ethernet inputs.

This can easily become a great mini-ITX low power NAS or media server and even a basic but good server but they always compromise in some parts of it.

View attachment 4432460
This gets closish. It doesn't have SATA on the massive dev board that breaks out all the connections but apparently the 'internal' SATA connections are multiplexed with the PCI-e somehow anyway? Just put a 20x PCI-e SATA board in one of the slots.
 
  • Informative
Reactions: Nabeshin
My GPD Win 4 came in recently, and since it is a UMPC/SBC, I would like to share my overall impressions:

1. It's small. Like smaller than some android handhelds like the Odin, but it's thicker than the Steam Deck.

2. It's pretty dense, but in a nice feeling way. Like it's a premium phone from the '80s.

3. Slide up screen feels nice though the keyboard does feel a bit cramp(can't complain too much though as it is a full fat keyboard).

4. Performance is promising for the size of the device.

I will provide another update down the road once I break more of it in
 
Network SBC manufacturer PC Engines calls it a day. After three generations of WRAP, ALIX and apu. Sad news. Like Soekris (also RIP for SBCs), there is many a comms rack and cabinet with one or more of these lurking.

The last generation, apu2, was fanless, used coreboot, Intel NICs, ECC RAM, 2 x mpcie, msata, low cost, could run mainline Linux.
 

People are hooking up graphics cards to the RK3588.
 
Back