Off-Topic "Scientific" Studies regarding Transpeople

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I’ve posted this in another thread, but I wanted to get more perspectives on this article. This article claims that the penile skin of a neovagina is histologically identical to a real vagina. Here is the link:


Here are the studies it cites to prove their point. Keep in mind, some of these studies are from decades ago. What do you all think?



 
I’ve posted this in another thread, but I wanted to get more perspectives on this article. This article claims that the penile skin of a neovagina is histologically identical to a real vagina. Here is the link:


Here are the studies it cites to prove their point. Keep in mind, some of these studies are from decades ago. What do you all think?




A user named “FairyGirl” from Susan’s Place cited this article, and made this claim:

“There is something called polymorphism where the organ changes over time to be exactly what it was constructed to be- a real vagina. The tissue actually changes. Here is an interesting article, with references you can check, that explains a little about this process (the emphasis is mine):”

 
A user named “FairyGirl” from Susan’s Place cited this article, and made this claim:

“There is something called polymorphism where the organ changes over time to be exactly what it was constructed to be- a real vagina. The tissue actually changes. Here is an interesting article, with references you can check, that explains a little about this process (the emphasis is mine):”

LMAO. "If you sew flesh into the shape of something you want, your body will just know what you were trying to make and magically shapeshift into it like a polymorph spell from harry potter."
We should use this tech to revolutionize limb replacements.
 
Is that economist article archived yet.i really don't want to give those Jews money for letting a bad goy publish something

Here is the text:
In April, Hilary Cass, a British paediatrician, published her review of gender-identity services for children and young people, commissioned by NHS England. It cast doubt on the evidence base for youth gender medicine. This prompted the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH), the leading professional organisation for the doctors and practitioners who provide services to trans people, to release a blistering rejoinder. wpath said that its own guidelines were sturdier, in part because they were “based on far more systematic reviews”.

Systematic reviews should evaluate the evidence for a given medical question in a careful, rigorous manner. Such efforts are particularly important at the moment, given the feverish state of the American debate on youth gender medicine, which is soon to culminate in a Supreme Court case challenging a ban in Tennessee. The case turns, in part, on questions of evidence and expert authority.

Court documents recently released as part of the discovery process in a case involving youth gender medicine in Alabama reveal that WPATH claim was built on shaky foundations. The documents show that the organisation’s leaders interfered with the production of systematic reviews that it had commissioned from the Johns Hopkins University Evidence-Based Practice Centre (EPC) in 2018. From early on in the contract negotiations, WPATH expressed a desire to control the results of the Hopkins team’s work.

In December 2017, for example, Donna Kelly, an executive director at WPATH, told Karen Robinson, the EPC's director, that the WPATH board felt the epc researchers “cannot publish their findings independently”. A couple of weeks later, Ms Kelly emphasised that, “the [WPATH] board wants it to be clear that the data cannot be used without WPATH approval”. Ms Robinson saw this as an attempt to exert undue influence over what was supposed to be an independent process. John Ioannidis of Stanford University, who co-authored guidelines for systematic reviews, says that if sponsors interfere or are allowed to veto results, this can lead to either biased summaries or suppression of unfavourable evidence.

Ms Robinson sought to avoid such an outcome. “In general, my understanding is that the university will not sign off on a contract that allows a sponsor to stop an academic publication,” she wrote to Ms Kelly. Months later, with the issue still apparently unresolved, Ms Robinson adopted a sterner tone. She noted in an email in March 2018 that, “Hopkins as an academic institution, and I as a faculty member therein, will not sign something that limits academic freedom in this manner,” nor “language that goes against current standards in systematic reviews and in guideline development”.

Eventually WPATH relented, and in May 2018 Ms Robinson signed a contract granting WPATH power to review and offer feedback on her team’s work, but not to meddle in any substantive way. After WPATH leaders saw two manuscripts submitted for review in July 2020, however, the parties’ disagreements flared up again. In August the WPATH executive committee wrote to Ms Robinson that WPATH had “many concerns” about these papers, and that it was implementing a new policy in which WPATH would have authority to influence the EPC team’s output—including the power to nip papers in the bud on the basis of their conclusions.

Ms Robinson protested that the new policy did not reflect the contract she had signed and violated basic principles of unfettered scientific inquiry she had emphasised repeatedly in her dealings with WPATH. The Hopkins team published only one paper after WPATH implemented its new policy: a 2021 meta-analysis on the effects of hormone therapy on transgender people. Among the recently released court documents is a WPATH checklist confirming that an individual from WPATH was involved “in the design, drafting of the article and final approval of [that] article”. (The article itself explicitly claims the opposite.)

Now, more than six years after signing the agreement, the EPC team does not appear to have published anything else, despite having provided WPATH with the material for six systematic reviews, according to the documents. No one at WPATH or Johns Hopkins has responded to multiple inquiries, so there are still gaps in this timeline. But an email in October 2020 from WPATH figures, including its incoming president at the time, Walter Bouman, to the working group on guidelines, made clear what sort of science WPATH did (and did not) want published. Research must be “thoroughly scrutinised and reviewed to ensure that publication does not negatively affect the provision of transgender health care in the broadest sense,” it stated.

Mr Bouman and one other coauthor of that email have been named to a World Health Organisation advisory board tasked with developing best practices for transgender medicine. Another document recently unsealed shows that Rachel Levine, a transwoman who is assistant secretary for health, succeeded in pressing WPATH to remove minimum ages for the treatment of children from its 2022 standards of care. Dr Levine’s office has not commented. Questions remain unanswered, but none of this helps WPATH's claim to be an organisation that bases its recommendations on science.
 
Jesse Singal claims to have uncovered evidence that WPATH deliberately manipulated a systemic review of the scientific literature in order to obtain a more favorable result concerning trans healthcare. This may have some interesting repercussions in the detransitioner lawsuits.
A follow up to this, it looks like the Trevor Project also tried to put a thumb on the scale too.

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I’m sure most of us here have heard about TiMs/TiFs using the concept of their brains being a different “gender” than what their body actually is. Here’s a study that talks about this here:


The results are this:

“classifier performed at 90.2% accuracy (AUC = 0.97) when assessed in the training sample and at 88.3% accuracy (AUC = 0.97) when assessed in our 48 cisgender brains. These measures indicate a suitable classification performance and a reliable distinction between the sexes based on brain anatomy. The estimated Brain Sex index was significantly different between the three groups (F(2,69) = 40.07, p< 0.001), with a mean of 1.00 ± 0.41 in cisgender men and of 0.00 ± 0.41 in cisgender women. The Brain Sex of transgender women was estimated as 0.75 ± 0.39, thus hovering between cisgender men and cisgender women, albeit closer to cisgender men (see also Figure 1). The follow-up post hoc tests revealed that transgender women were significantly more female than cisgender men (Cohen’s d = 0.64, t(46) = 2.20, p= 0.016), but significantly less female than cisgender women (Cohen’s d = 1.87, t(46) = 6.48, p < 0.001).”

So does this mean that their brain is neither “male” or “female”, since they lie in between? Or am I misreading this? What does it mean to be “significantly more female” than a cisgendered man, but be “significantly less female” than actual women?
 
I’m sure most of us here have heard about TiMs/TiFs using the concept of their brains being a different “gender” than what their body actually is. Here’s a study that talks about this here:


The results are this:

“classifier performed at 90.2% accuracy (AUC = 0.97) when assessed in the training sample and at 88.3% accuracy (AUC = 0.97) when assessed in our 48 cisgender brains. These measures indicate a suitable classification performance and a reliable distinction between the sexes based on brain anatomy. The estimated Brain Sex index was significantly different between the three groups (F(2,69) = 40.07, p< 0.001), with a mean of 1.00 ± 0.41 in cisgender men and of 0.00 ± 0.41 in cisgender women. The Brain Sex of transgender women was estimated as 0.75 ± 0.39, thus hovering between cisgender men and cisgender women, albeit closer to cisgender men (see also Figure 1). The follow-up post hoc tests revealed that transgender women were significantly more female than cisgender men (Cohen’s d = 0.64, t(46) = 2.20, p= 0.016), but significantly less female than cisgender women (Cohen’s d = 1.87, t(46) = 6.48, p < 0.001).”

So does this mean that their brain is neither “male” or “female”, since they lie in between? Or am I misreading this? What does it mean to be “significantly more female” than a cisgendered man, but be “significantly less female” than actual women?
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I think they should check their math on those statistics, because that middle group looks a fuck of a lot closer to the male group than the female.

The methods say that the participants have no history of hormone usage, so that's not the cause of the difference. Could be related to sexuality, IIRC homosexual men have slightly more feminine-looking brain scans.
 
No, history will bury those who knew and tell everybody how it's actually great that society tried it out, so we could better outselves.
You are absolutely right and the thought of this is deeply upsetting. We will be found correct, our views will eventually be vindicated, but we'll never be recognized for it because we were really rude when we did it. We said "tranny" too many times and watched Dave Chappelle's specials and played the Hogwarts game, so we literally caused tranny suicides or something.
The Deaf community is like that wrt cochlear implants and other cures
I was going to bring that up too. I don't understand the Deaf (with a capital D) community and their intense hatred/distrust of hearing people. Blind people don't do that, they usually seem to appreciate a little dictation if they look lost. Paraplegics don't act like that, they just want ramps, 3 foot wide clearance and elevators. But the Deaf community will seek out, prioritize each other, deny treatment to their children and they get real pissy that not every hearing person has taken ASL and is capable of throwing up gang signs with them.

Is it the separate language? The fact that they have a way to speak in code to each other means that they're used to being isolated and secretive from the hearing population? I have to know why hearing impairment is the one disability that turns people into niggers.
 
I’m sure most of us here have heard about TiMs/TiFs using the concept of their brains being a different “gender” than what their body actually is. Here’s a study that talks about this here:


The results are this:

“classifier performed at 90.2% accuracy (AUC = 0.97) when assessed in the training sample and at 88.3% accuracy (AUC = 0.97) when assessed in our 48 cisgender brains. These measures indicate a suitable classification performance and a reliable distinction between the sexes based on brain anatomy. The estimated Brain Sex index was significantly different between the three groups (F(2,69) = 40.07, p< 0.001), with a mean of 1.00 ± 0.41 in cisgender men and of 0.00 ± 0.41 in cisgender women. The Brain Sex of transgender women was estimated as 0.75 ± 0.39, thus hovering between cisgender men and cisgender women, albeit closer to cisgender men (see also Figure 1). The follow-up post hoc tests revealed that transgender women were significantly more female than cisgender men (Cohen’s d = 0.64, t(46) = 2.20, p= 0.016), but significantly less female than cisgender women (Cohen’s d = 1.87, t(46) = 6.48, p < 0.001).”

So does this mean that their brain is neither “male” or “female”, since they lie in between? Or am I misreading this? What does it mean to be “significantly more female” than a cisgendered man, but be “significantly less female” than actual women?
What a shitty dataset:

2.1. Participants​

Twenty-four transgender women (biological sex: male; perceived gender: female) were recruited through local community organizations and through professionals who offer services to the transgender community. To be included in this study, participants needed to self-identify as transgender women, report no history of hormone therapy, and declare the intention of undergoing estrogen replacement therapy. Moreover, participants were confirmed to be genetic males as defined by the presence of the SRY gene in their genome [53]. Six transgender women reported to be androphile (attracted to men) and 18 transgender women stated to be gynephile (attracted to women).

I think they should check their math on those statistics, because that middle group looks a fuck of a lot closer to the male group than the female.
There's loads of overlap for sure and having a 12% error rate in detecting someones birth sex which normally has a 0% error rate when done by the naked eye, is hilariously bad.
This says nothing. Nice try, troons.
 
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No, history will bury those who knew and tell everybody how it's actually great that society tried it out, so we could better outselves.
Those who always had their compass straight only have themselves to blame because we weren't as loud and aggressive as the other side. That's the common people's burden as always...

And then, given time, history will also bury any documentation of not only the mean chuds who were right all along about transgenderism and faggotry, but also the bad things that happened in society because of fag and troon acceptance.

Just like all other instances of history where sexual revolutions or increasing acceptance of sexual degeneracy caused serious problems in society, up to and including the fall of entire empires.
 
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I’ve posted this in another thread, but I wanted to get more perspectives on this article. This article claims that the penile skin of a neovagina is histologically identical to a real vagina. Here is the link:
This one is golden, I don't really care about the transmogrification fantasy but this one is juicy:
Two hundred one women with vaginal agenesis were diagnosed and operated on by the same surgeon in 51 years (1943 through 1994). The patients' ages ranged from 14 to 41 years with an average of 20.5 years (SD 3.9 years). In most of the cases surgical intervention was performed when the patient desired to begin her sexual experience. The graft was taken from the thigh or gluteal region, followed by dissection of the urethrovesicorectal space.
The first victims of these butchers were mostly women. This isn't even discussed but part of the problem. (And now it's like that again, thanks to pooners) Vaginal agenesis means women who don't have a vagina: These women have all the anterior intact with a clit and internal glans but the "cave" is missing, basically. They basically have natal "zero depth vaginoplasty" and thus these tunnels they grafted onto patients as young as 14 are as nonfunctional as all the other neovaginas trannys get and the surgery is grueling as you can tell. There is no net positive for these genetic women to have this done exept for passing as women. And no, these XX people don't have an uterus when it's Müllerian agenesis. If you prioritize phenotype, these aren't really women either. But this is exactly the type of fringe case from which these DOCTORS got the idea to also convert gay acting teens or little boys because their brains are "feminized", the kind of bullshit this modern study tries to reiterate:
I’m sure most of us here have heard about TiMs/TiFs using the concept of their brains being a different “gender” than what their body actually is. Here’s a study that talks about this here:


The results are this:

“classifier performed at 90.2% accuracy (AUC = 0.97) when assessed in the training sample and at 88.3% accuracy (AUC = 0.97) when assessed in our 48 cisgender brains. These measures indicate a suitable classification performance and a reliable distinction between the sexes based on brain anatomy. The estimated Brain Sex index was significantly different between the three groups (F(2,69) = 40.07, p< 0.001), with a mean of 1.00 ± 0.41 in cisgender men and of 0.00 ± 0.41 in cisgender women. The Brain Sex of transgender women was estimated as 0.75 ± 0.39, thus hovering between cisgender men and cisgender women, albeit closer to cisgender men (see also Figure 1). The follow-up post hoc tests revealed that transgender women were significantly more female than cisgender men (Cohen’s d = 0.64, t(46) = 2.20, p= 0.016), but significantly less female than cisgender women (Cohen’s d = 1.87, t(46) = 6.48, p < 0.001).”

So does this mean that their brain is neither “male” or “female”, since they lie in between? Or am I misreading this? What does it mean to be “significantly more female” than a cisgendered man, but be “significantly less female” than actual women?

Again, this is way bigger and older than programmers on reddit wearing diapers and sperging out or twitch minercrafters inducing gynomastia with exohormones for tips .
 
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So does this mean that their brain is neither “male” or “female”, since they lie in between? Or am I misreading this? What does it mean to be “significantly more female” than a cisgendered man, but be “significantly less female” than actual women?
If we take the study at its word then wouldn't this mean that their brains are "genderfluid"? (if we follow trans logic) I always found it weird how troons quote these male and female brain studies and yet I noticed these studies never prove or explain non binary, genderfluid, or the other millions of gender identities that society is suppose to take seriously.
 
So does this mean that their brain is neither “male” or “female”, since they lie in between? Or am I misreading this? What does it mean to be “significantly more female” than a cisgendered man, but be “significantly less female” than actual women?
In my interpretation first off, "male or female brain" depends on what your body is. You might have a more FEMININE brain, like evidenced, but its still a male brain
Also male brains even if feminine are geared towards 1 way, and female brains another, so like the graph a couple posts after, the trans "woman" still mostly reflects a male brain, but is SLIGHTLY more feminine, and I expect pooners would be vice versa. At least for the data in the graph, it reflects it, it looks MORE like a man than woman still.

You could unironically draw comparison of another animal raised by wolves, and it acting wolf LIKE in many ways, but only a retard would call it a wolf unironically. it might howl at the moon, it might develop predatory tendancies, but if a lamb is raised by wolves, its STILL a lamb. just a very warped lamb.
 
Back before troonism became the next big thing after the faggot rights movement, people were arguing that homosexual men had female brains.

So what is it? Do mismatched brains produce fags or troons? They can't seem to make up their mind, almost as if they're simply pulling shit out of their ass to justify the most unsanitary and self-defeating lifestyles known to man.
 
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