Scott Pilgrim Netflix Animated Series - Animated by Science SARU

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Been watching it with a friend, not done yet, but so far it's been surprisingly a bit better than most "subverted expectation adaptations". I genuinely get why people are pissed though so far it's not like the others and still carries the comedic tone of the original. Hopefully the backlash gets taken as a reason to make an actual adaptation instead of being used to frame people as bad for being upset about being baited by netflix californian marketing BS again.

EDIT: Forgot to point this obvious shit out but this is one of those series that will make NO fucking sense to anyone unless you've read the source material.
 
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Scott Pilgrim is definitely one of those "products of its time" and I cannot see an attempt to restart the franchise 15 years after the comics came out ending well.

It was a comic about hipster losers when being a hipster loser meant you played shitty music in your shitty band, listened to Cat Power and Neutral Milk Hotel and played retro video games because you grew up playing Super Nintendo.

Nowadays being a hipster loser means what, watching Vtubers, getting groomed on Discord, never going outside?

Thinking about Scott Pilgrim makes me wish we could go back. Yeah it's kind of lame and gay but it's comfy and not as bugfuck as reality is nowadays.
Scott Pilgrim feels like that hipster comic that somehow managed to become a movie in the right time, right place. If it was a decade before people would had found it confusing because unlikable protagonists fighting over who's the biggest simp, forced LGBT and pop culture references on video games. Sure games are popular but I think the difference with 80's nostalgia is that people actually went outside! Now it's being a big kid playing games in your bedroom and consuming.

Despite what I think of the franchise, the movie was good. Far from perfect but I think it was much better than Adam Sandler's Pixel. It even spawned one or two popular games. So there's that. But I'm not surprised that Nerflix did what they did. You already had a "progressively" themed comic/movie. So they just modernize it and it shows.
 
Surprised that the RT audience score has actually gone UP, despite news of the twist spreading like wildfire. The general audience for Scott Pilgrim must be used to media with subversion.

The animation and general style is great, but I don't know if I feel like renewing my Netflix account just for a looker.
 
So we just completely erased ALL THE DEVELOPMENT Scott went through in the books for him to turn out as the villain of the show so Romana can become God.

Fuck off, this is ass. It literally ruins the comics now, because it’s “and then Scott lost all his character development and ended up the same asshole he was at the beginning LOL”.
 
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Scott Pilgrim feels like that hipster comic that somehow managed to become a movie in the right time, right place. If it was a decade before people would had found it confusing because unlikable protagonists fighting over who's the biggest simp, forced LGBT and pop culture references on video games. Sure games are popular but I think the difference with 80's nostalgia is that people actually went outside! Now it's being a big kid playing games in your bedroom and consuming.

Despite what I think of the franchise, the movie was good. Far from perfect but I think it was much better than Adam Sandler's Pixel. It even spawned one or two popular games. So there's that. But I'm not surprised that Nerflix did what they did. You already had a "progressively" themed comic/movie. So they just modernize it and it shows.
I wouldn't really call this "modernized" like other shit that 'subverts expectations", nor would I call the gay shit "forced" in either this new thing or the original. there's a difference between gay dudes doing gay shit and extremely long diatribes about "lgrbtquwbt+ bodies" being "seen" and "valid".
Surprised that the RT audience score has actually gone UP, despite news of the twist spreading like wildfire. The general audience for Scott Pilgrim must be used to media with subversion.

The animation and general style is great, but I don't know if I feel like renewing my Netflix account just for a looker.
It's probably due to how the characterization is consistent with the OG material for the most part. Wouldn't renew netflix for just one fucking show, especially this one, but if you can find a way to watch it and you've read the OG comic in full I'd say go for it. Haven't finished watching the thing but it's actually been enjoyable in it's absurd ass nature unlike other shit that pulls a bait and switch thelast few years where you're supposed to see shit super fucking serious business dramatic. Probably gonna finish watching it tomorrow or the next day.'

So we just completely erased ALL THE DEVELOPMENT Scott went through in the books for him to turn out as the villain of the show so Romana can become God.

Fuck off, this is ass.
Hoping it doesn't happen exactly like this cause so far it's been a pretty funny plotline overall.
 
Surprised that the RT audience score has actually gone UP, despite news of the twist spreading like wildfire. The general audience for Scott Pilgrim must be used to media with subversion.

The animation and general style is great, but I don't know if I feel like renewing my Netflix account just for a looker.
From reading the reviews on iMDB a lot of them don't sound like how normal people talk. I'm guessing the shills are out in force to get ahead of the backlash.
 
So we just completely erased ALL THE DEVELOPMENT Scott went through in the books for him to turn out as the villain of the show so Romana can become God.

Fuck off, this is ass. It literally ruins the comics now, because it’s “and then Scott lost all his character development and ended up the same asshole he was at the beginning LOL”.
I guess Bryan Lee O'Malley got tired of people being too retarded to understand that you aren't meant to like or relate to Scott or Ramona, and that they weren't exactly good people. So he decided to beat the audience over the head with it, delete Scott's character growth and set him back to square one. And I guess Ramona becomes God because uhhhh, she deals with her trauma? Or something, I skimmed the show, I couldn't really be bothered to give it an honest watch after the twist.
 
Could be worse, maybe they'll say all the events in the movie and original comic was in Scott's head as a result of the beatdown Pattel gave him in the style of St. Elmo's.
 
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Could be worse, maybe they'll say all the events in the movie and original comic was in Scott's head as a result of the beatdown Pattel gave him in the style of St. Elmo's.
The actual shit that happens with Pattel is a lot funnier, basically after Scott "dies" at the start he just assumes he's the main character and proceeds to become extremely successful in life to a ridiculous degree. He's not the main bad guy though no clue why people keep saying that. He's still a joke character but he's got a bit more screentime due to the situation of him not immediately fucking dying like he's supposed to.
 
While Shitflix is part to blame for the deceitful marketing, let's not forget the marketing of anime medium itself already reached an all-time low for quite sometime:
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What are we seeing now is just the aftermath where a bunch of weeabos thinks this type of move is bold and brash, when it is actually just hot trash.
 
While Shitflix is part to blame for the deceitful marketing, let's not forget the marketing of anime medium itself already reached an all-time low for quite sometime:
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What are we seeing now is just the aftermath where a bunch of weeabos thinks this type of move is bold and brash, when it is actually just hot trash.
Other shit did it before Higurashi did and it was western shit, not anime. This issue/trope of "remake turned pretentious fake-deep time travel sequel" has been a growing weird trend in media the last few years and every fucking time it sidelines most of the cast and flanderizes shit in a way where nobody acts like themselves. I said this earlier but from the big chunk i've watched of this Scott Pilgrim thing it does kinda the opposite of that where it uses the time travel shit as an excuse to have the ensemble of side characters from the OG comic interacting in goofy ass yet still clearly in-character ways.

It does share a big flaw with the Higurashi one specifically where now as a result we're probably never going to see a near 100% faithful animated adaptation of the source material.

The higurashi shit is extremely fucking abhorrent characterization wise too with the turning the ensemble cast of main characters to "side characters that just murder each other because satoko slipped them crazy juice" thing. Not to mention it doing shit like "character is saying menacing thing so red hyper realistic eyes oh no scareee bWWAAAAAMMMMMMMM inception horns!!"

i thought you were trolling at first and then i watched the first episode

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SERIOUSLY, WHAT!?
If you pay close attention, the real protagonist is Matthew Pattel cause he killed Scott.
 
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I said it in the Robyn Hood thread but these modern tactics and shit just feel like old hat now.

We're so far passed any of this being shocking. It feels like a bunch of tired and stale tropes now.

He-Man was my last straw. When Kevin Smith's Netflix show did what they did, I walked. I'm done with this nonsense.

Now here we are a few years removed from that shitshow and it's still happening but instead of violent backlash, it is met with increasing levels of apathy.

Oh, Richter Belmont got sidelined in the new Castlevania show in favor of a strong black woman and all the vampires are black and gay? Of course they did that. The last season of Archer introduced a strong black female that is better than every other characrer at everything? Of course that happened. Oh, Scott Pilgrim got removed from his own show? Why wouldn't that happen?

It's not rage inducing anymore. It's just old. Rommel, I read your fucking book! I know you're going to do this shit now.

I'll say this too: One of the reasons that the Wednesday Addams show did well is because they never lied about what it was. They didn't advertise a full Addams Family show and then sideline everyone for Wednesday. The promised a Wednesday show and that's what they delivered. Just saying.
 
FF7 Remake did the same thing and it was the best video game ever made,
This is probably the most retarded thing a person has ever said.
So we just completely erased ALL THE DEVELOPMENT Scott went through in the books for him to turn out as the villain of the show so Romana can become God.
Negative XP clearly broke the minds of the Scott Pilgrim creator or the people who consume it because the whole show is trying to vindicate Ramona and take the male protagonist and show how actually HE was the fucked up one the whole time and wasn't good enough for perfect magical pixie dream girl Ramona.
We're so far passed any of this being shocking. It feels like a bunch of tired and stale tropes now.
We've really come full circle. If a show could come out and have a standard hero's journey where the protagonist grows, changes, comes out better (penis intact) and gets the girl at the end it would genuinely be more refreshing and unique than anything produced in the last five or six years.
 
Wow, it's amazing how it's worse than what anyone dreamed and it's all because of a decade old song. I wonder how is the Twitter of the (male) writer of the comics, probably as soy as possible. I'm surprised they didn't have Ramona with some ridiculous 777 exes, just to hammer the idea that she is a complete cumdump.
 
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FF7 Remake did the same thing and it was the best video game ever made, so I don't know what your problem is.
This would be reasonable if Sephiroth was made the protagonist, and was made into a reasonable level-headed guy who was totally right in his quest to destroy the entire planet over the fact he was a literally manufactured supersoldier made from alien material - Not even over humanity exploiting the Lifestream as a cheap energy source and causing the planet's slow and sure demise. And at the same time, the game shafted Cloud and his gang as either idealistic loonies or dangerous terrorists, with neither option being possible for redemption or even a logical explanation. All with the creators' blessings.

As far as I know, the FF7 remake did neither of those things.

He-Man was my last straw. When Kevin Smith's Netflix show did what they did, I walked. I'm done with this nonsense.
It wasn't enough that Smith duped the fans and turned the show into Teela and Evil-Lyn's Power Hour feat. Mostly Dead He-Man and Incel Skeletor, he also had to insult the fans of the original series for... Expecting a show centered around He-Man to feature as much He-Man as possible. And let's not forget about how the people responsible for bringing new stuff from IP's like Star Wars, Ghostbusters

What is it about people directing these remakes and completely disrespecting the source material? Do fans of things they are remaking, rebooting or adapting really think they can do better than their original creations? And their idea of a "better" version is to deliberately undo canon points and established series logic, insert plot changes and even characters that just don't work, and lash out at the backlash? Do they also expect to earn new fans by being crass to criticism?

I don't even like Scott Pilgrim that much, but reading how this adaptation ended up just made me throw the towel over the state of pop culture in the West.
 
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