Careercow Scott Raymond Adams / @ScottAdamsSays / “Real Coffee With Scott Adams” - The Washed Up Cartoonist Behind “Dilbert”, Creator of “The Dilberito”, Professional Bullying Victim, Political Grifter, Terminally Online Narcissistic Boomer, Divorced Twice, Is (Not) Glad His Stepson Overdosed. This is Not a Racial Politics Debate Thread

[Raging Capybara]

Well, that's the rub, ain't it? The whole system that Madison and Adams and the others set up depends on the notion that everyone in the nation is generally on board with the idea that liberal democracy is good and should be protected. It never contemplated the possibility that a large percentage of the public would someday decide that it would be really great to be ruled by a strongman without regard to what the people want.

If you think dictatorship fanboys are a recent thing you must be delusional.

 

[Too Many Catgirls]

If you think dictatorship fanboys are a recent thing you must be delusional.

Yeah! They wrote a whole space novel/anime about this same concept in the 80s. It goes back forever!

 

[TVB]

Yeah! They wrote a whole space novel/anime about this same concept in the 80s. It goes back forever!

Yea, the idea of fanboys being cults about any product has been a thing since the 20th century.

 

[Too Many Catgirls]

Yea, the idea of fanboys being cults about any product has been a thing since the 20th century.

At least the late 1980s. Maybe even the 1970s... but that's going pretty far back.

 

[sodaboard]

Anyway, the reason the U.S. has lasted as long as it has, even with the intervening Civil War, is it's literally based on the concept that people are stupid, greedy and evil and will fuck up anything you give them if there aren't rules that stop that. In our case, it's setting up three branches of government that hate and detest each other and are in such incessant internecine warfare that they don't have the ability to join together and really fuck us up the ass.

except that means the government will inevitably become a corrupt beuracracy where nothing gets done because nobody ever agrees with each other. have to pass each bill with a gorillion hidden provisions and promises and a compromise that defeats the entire purpose of the bill anyways. most congressmen have said they don't even read the full text of the bills because they're hundreds of pages long.

 

[TVB]

At least the late 1980s. Maybe even the 1970s... but that's going pretty far back.

Before the 60s might be the earliest but didn't become as mainstream at that time, and even then it's just rivalry against favorite sports teams or favorite music bands or even favorite soda. By the 90s when the internet became the new norm, people would gush about their favorite movies, music, shows, games, etc. from sites like Angelfire, while the turn of the new millennium would introduce sites like Newgrounds, Albinoblacksheep, YTMND and especially 4chan with more fandom culture.

 

[AnOminous]

Kristina whines that Scott divorced her while she was fighting cancer, but when I heard that the first thing I thought was, Idiot! He should've waited and seen because it's cheaper to get widowed than divorced!

What a complete midwit retard. Seriously the dude is not just a sociopath but a fuckwit too.

except that means the government will inevitably become a corrupt beuracracy where nothing gets done because nobody ever agrees with each other. have to pass each bill with a gorillion hidden provisions and promises and a compromise that defeats the entire purpose of the bill anyways. most congressmen have said they don't even read the full text of the bills because they're hundreds of pages long.

To some extent not being able to do anything is actually a feature and not a bug, because when the government actually does do stuff, it's usually pretty stupid and useless.

Also the bureaucracy is kind of a global problem. At some point in our development, the machines that we need to keep working just to feed ourselves, move necessary goods around, etc. are so complicated everything devolves into a technocracy whatever you started with.

 

[Mukhrani]

Well, that's the rub, ain't it? The whole system that Madison and Adams and the others set up depends on the notion that everyone in the nation is generally on board with the idea that liberal democracy is good and should be protected. It never contemplated the possibility that a large percentage of the public would someday decide that it would be really great to be ruled by a strongman without regard to what the people want.

People want to be ruled by a strongmen with regard to what the people want, that's exactly why they want a strongman. Same reason people went for Caesar - the governing apparatus of the Roman Republic was so sclerotic, corrupt, and dysfunctional that there was no way for popular sentiment to influence policy. That's why the mob turns to a dictator - to smash the machinery of the state that is no longer acting in their interest and resists all attempt at reform.

Congress has approval rates that are constantly in a toilet, and pretty much zero popular policies actually make their way into law. If they do, any popular implementation is stymied by an entrenched bureaucracy. Just look at the so-called infrastructure bill. Infrastructure spending is very popular, but instead of spending money to actually fix the shit that people use to run our society you saw Democrats musing about how 'trans rights are infrastructure' in order to fund things that nobody wants instead.

The founders based a lot of the separation of powers on Machiavelli's Discourses on Livy, and in that work Machiavelli's main thesis is that societies in the long term rotate between different forms of government which all become corrupt and are overthrown and replaced with another, so you should combine all three to ensure stability and therefore longevity (countries tend to lose ground to rival powers when weakened by the violent throes of transition). But no matter how well you combine them, there's no perfect government, and one arm of society will come to dominate. We're right now in the corrupted form of aristocracy (rule of the few), which is overthrown by the mob in order to institute democracy (rule of the many), which is incredibly unstable in its pure form, devolves into anarchy, and then you get monarchy (rule of the one). In Rome, you had a lot of populist, democratic movements which attempted to reform their system (the Gracchi being the most famous). These were all brutally repressed by TPTB, leading to increasing anarchy and eventually the rise of strongman figures like Marius, Sulla, Caesar, and Pompey.

 

[TVB]

These were all brutally repressed by TPTB, leading to increasing anarchy and eventually the rise of strongman figures like Marius, Sulla, Caesar, and Pompey.

Even more modern day examples like Michael Jordan or Dale Earnhardt Sr. among others

 

[Trombonista]

Can we get back to discussing Scott Adams?

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

Can we get back to discussing Scott Adams?

I agree. We need more information about Clott Adams divorcing his thotwife while she had cancer. That’s a new one. It sounded like they were estranged before they divorced. She was definitely knocked up with someone else’s baby when the divorce was underway. The timelines need clarity.

 

[TVB]

I agree. We need more information about Clott Adams divorcing his thotwife while she had cancer. That’s a new one. It sounded like they were estranged before they divorced. She was definitely knocked up with someone else’s baby when the divorce was underway. The timelines need clarity.

Source link, nigga?

 

[Dambusters' Dog II]

Source link, nigga?

The bit about the alleged cancer was only mentioned just now. The thotwife Kristina being pregnant with another man's child while the divorce was still in progress is from right near the start of the thread.

Since I had to go back much earlier, I will now soothe my autism by replying to an old post that I recently dredged up some information for.

At some point in the mid-late 90s his ego must have overcome his self-awareness. Or he just stopped pretending to be humble in public and started trying to disprove gravity.

Like admitting to mainly getting his ideas from emails, Scott publicly admitted to faking humility in his newsletter (in fact saying that the only worthwhile humility is the false kind). This reply was as himself, not in character as Dogbert:

(org archive, ph archive, skip over the sperging about Bill Clinton & Monica unless you find it amusing)
The "True Tales of Induhviduals" referred to in the letter was a segment of Readers' Digest-style humour about interacting with people doing or saying something stupid. That type of humour was common on the internet back then, people would forward these sorts of stories to each other by email.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

The "True Tales of Induhviduals" referred to in the letter was a segment of Readers' Digest-style humour about interacting with people doing or saying something stupid. That type of humour was common on the internet back then, people would forward these sorts of stories to each other by email.

Yeah, it was prime late 90s/early 00s internet humor. It reminded me of an old ass site called Acts of Gord where a guy that owns/works at a small video game shop gets to lord over the nerds, autists and retards, which ironically acting like a retarded nerd autist himself.

I had to see if KF ever made an Acts of Gord thread and there is. The Acts of Gord site was updated last in 2012. Damn do I feel old: https://kiwifarmsaaf4t2h7gc3dfc5ojhmqruw2nit3uejrpiagrxeuxiyxcyd.onion/threads/the-acts-of-gord.723/

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Yeah, it was prime late 90s/early 00s internet humor. It reminded me of an old ass site called Acts of Gord where a guy that owns/works at a small video game shop gets to lord over the nerds, autists and retards, which ironically acting like a retarded nerd autist himself.

I had to see if KF ever made an Acts of Gord thread and there is. The Acts of Gord site was updated last in 2012. Damn do I feel old: https://kiwifarmsaaf4t2h7gc3dfc5ojhmqruw2nit3uejrpiagrxeuxiyxcyd.onion/threads/the-acts-of-gord.723/

This was during the prime of the Bastard Operator from Hell (though it was older), after the 2000s it just kind of all fell apart.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

This was during the prime of the Bastard Operator from Hell (though it was older), after the 2000s it just kind of all fell apart.

Yeah. I think it worked back before the internet got mainstream and people wouldn’t like guys like Gord making fun of them. Plus Gord is a white guy and white guys aren’t allowed to lord anything over anybody. Plus I think those type of sites ran their course too. Lots of different factors as to why those sites died and I think most of them were just early enough and just niche enough to avoid cancel culture.

 

[Sneed S. McSneedensen]

...so I like Scott Adams now, right?

 

[TVB]

...so I like Scott Adams now, right?

It's hard to tell whether he's liked or not really

 

[Sneed S. McSneedensen]

It's hard to tell whether he's liked or not really

He made a funny cartoon strip and he's now being honest with himself. Hardly a cow imo.

 

[TVB]

He made a funny cartoon strip and he's now being honest with himself. Hardly a cow imo.

A lot of people tend to make great art but can also be cows that are either hilarious, entertaining, depressing or worth talking about. I'll say this, Scott Adams, as good of an artist he is, isn't that much of a lolcow.