SCP Foundation - Creepypasta with roid rage - now ITT: SCP fans

I did some research and the way SCP handles creative commons seems really unorthodox and shady. Like usually when you have licenses like this there's some sort of agreement when you join the site - that "by joining this site you are consenting to have any works posted released under creative commons" blah blah blah or something like that.

There is no such agreement when joining SCP. I scrolled through the applicant page and guide for newbies for an hour, really trying to find anything that would indicate to a new user that they'd be consenting to such a thing and was met with no results.

The only thing I could find was this message in tiny print at the very bottom of every page stating: "Unless otherwise stated, the content of this page is licensed under Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 License". However, this only vaguely implies you're releasing your works to CC by posting on SCP, and I've never heard of a website just 'deciding' your works are licensed under a certain agreement with no consent or clear statement.

Now if I haven't made some oversight, this means someone could (fairly effectively) plea ignorance to the existence of such a licensing agreement, given they never explicitly stated they were releasing their work under CC.

Wouldn't work for stuff like Keter Duty but you could probably knock dozens of articles out without a licensing tag as long as they can't prove you ever agreed to license it under CC, since there is nothing when you sign up or post to the wiki that inherently indicates you do it automatically.
You actually have a point here. The only reference to authors releasing their works under the share-alike license is buried within the licensing guide. Users aren't required to acknowledge this license whenever they post an article, which may open SCP up to some legal problems should someone decide to claim their articles as their own IP
 
<Modern_Erasmus> On the sub it was mostly just Kaktus being his usual dickish self a week ago
<MrAnakinSpecter> Modern_Erasmus: well yeah that's just normal kaktus
<MrAnakinSpecter> why the fuck was he a moderator ever?
Reminder that in order for a member of staff to be promoted past the Junior staff phase, a majority of active staff have to vote on it. These people voted Kaktus into his position, knowing that there was a good chance he would be dicks to people, then got pissed when he did the Internet equivalent of pouring water on a grease fire and created a giant pile of extra work for them. Should have voted for competent people.

Edit: Just remembered that Kaktus was captain of the Disciplinary Team for a bit. They literally put him in charge of the entire process of punishing users while knowing what he was like as a person. That is bafflingly dumb.
 
You actually have a point here. The only reference to authors releasing their works under the share-alike license is buried within the licensing guide. Users aren't required to acknowledge this license whenever they post an article, which may open SCP up to some legal problems should someone decide to claim their articles as their own IP
I wonder if this could provide a precedent for users to actually win retroactive rights to their articles, kind of like how Facebook was taken to court for knowingly building their TOS and user agreements so that people wouldn't read them, then get stuck in them. SCP knows a bunch of teenagers probably aren't going to read a licensing guide, even though it has the vital piece of info that says "Congratulations, your hard work is officially ours now, and not yours."
 
You actually have a point here. The only reference to authors releasing their works under the share-alike license is buried within the licensing guide. Users aren't required to acknowledge this license whenever they post an article, which may open SCP up to some legal problems should someone decide to claim their articles as their own IP
The admin staff of Wikidot were themselves unsure what the CC BY-SA 3.0 statement meant. Some thought it was just for the code so that things like widgets could be shared and improved upon. There was a whole other debate for the page’s actual content. This was in 2010.

 
The real thing with the SCP and Creative Commons is that the SCP Wiki ss only gets to be the center of the universe as long as it has the prestige, someone could make a mirror of the content with better web design and take it all away from them if they played their cards right.
And now there’s no moral argument for the authors to fall back on.
 
The real thing with the SCP and Creative Commons is that the SCP Wiki ss only gets to be the center of the universe as long as it has the prestige, someone could make a mirror of the content with better web design and take it all away from them if they played their cards right.
You can write your gay spooky stories in the Art & Literature forum here if you want to.
 
You actually have a point here. The only reference to authors releasing their works under the share-alike license is buried within the licensing guide. Users aren't required to acknowledge this license whenever they post an article, which may open SCP up to some legal problems should someone decide to claim their articles as their own IP
It's better practice to have a clickthrough where you have to click a box confirming that lying that you actually read it.
I wonder if this could provide a precedent for users to actually win retroactive rights to their articles, kind of like how Facebook was taken to court for knowingly building their TOS and user agreements so that people wouldn't read them, then get stuck in them.
Most precedents about clickthrough style licenses generally require you at least be aware that the license exist and somehow affirmatively agree to it. Generally if you do so you are bound by its terms barring some doctrine like unconscionability.
 
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Most precedents about clickthrough style licenses generally require you at least be aware that the license exist and somehow affirmatively agree to it. Generally if you do so you are bound by its terms barring some doctrine like unconscionability.
I can tell you for a fact that I never agreed to it. The password for the site was painfully easy to find when I originally joined the site, and I never had a reason to go back on my own time to read the licensing guide. I doubt anyone's actually read it completely, and personally I think staff know that.
 
I can tell you for a fact that I never agreed to it. The password for the site was painfully easy to find when I originally joined the site, and I never had a reason to go back on my own time to read the licensing guide. I doubt anyone's actually read it completely, and personally I think staff know that.
Of course, if the ss said “you don’t own anything you write” it might turn people off from joining. They take people for granted because words mean more than people for them.
 
SCP-5167: Okay. So, a while ago we got Westrin's shitty minecraft SCP, right? (http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-4335) I remember Westrin being the resident funny meme man in SCPD. After he posted the black Herobrine SCP, everyone tried to copy him. Same deal with SCP-3999, but this time with mainlist -Js.

This is where it took us. This is a fucking Among Us SCP. It's a spooky player who joins random games, spews meaningless bullshit, and makes the other players go crazy. This only got upvotes because it's a funny Among Us SCP. And the punchline at the end of it is literally just "red sus" "vote him out". Need I say more?
Goddammit, why did this have to be written by one of the few prolific authors that are actually good? *sigh*
 
It's better practice to have a clickthrough where you have to click a box confirming that lying that you actually read it.

Most precedents about clickthrough style licenses generally require you at least be aware that the license exist and somehow affirmatively agree to it. Generally if you do so you are bound by its terms barring some doctrine like unconscionability.
This is my point. They can't just release your works under a license for you with no agreement when joining the site, or even any real clear acknowledgement that you're releasing your shit under CC when you post.

Meaning that their argument for keeping Harmony's articles up without their consent has 0 legal standing.

Now of course, in reality, I don't think they are autistic or wealthy enough to actually sue over this. But in the future, if the SCP staff decided to do this to someone a little less levelheaded, it could go really bad for them.
 
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Goddammit, why did this have to be written by one of the few prolific authors that are actually good? *sigh*
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Unbelievable, shit like this would be a -J article years ago.
I think that's the big problem with SCP these days from the perspective of a reader. Not only do you have to read through loads of crappy SCPs to find the handful that are well written, now you have to put up with fuckers putting what are basically joke SCPs and tales in the main SCP slots.

From reading this guy's other few articles I got the impression he could come up with some really good stuff, but it looks like he's pigeonholing himself into being the funny videogame SCP meme writer.
 
From reading this guy's other few articles I got the impression he could come up with some really good stuff, but it looks like he's pigeonholing himself into being the funny videogame SCP meme writer.
What articles of theirs did you read that gave you that impression? Because as someone who's read all their articles I can tell you that isn't the case at all.
 
What articles of theirs did you read that gave you that impression? Because as someone who's read all their articles I can tell you that isn't the case at all.
I mistook this for the guy who wrote the sentient runescape NPC and the kid stuck in a bathroom.
You're right the actual author of the among us article seems quite bad.

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Now I get what you were saying, this awful joke article is disappointing coming from someone who seems to write decent SPCs otherwise.
 
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Meaning that their argument for keeping Harmony's articles up without their consent has 0 legal standing.
Not that it was ever about legal standing. Nothing in their CC prevents the owners/admins from deleting anything nor everything, by whim or request.

Hell, we just watched them post an SCP, have a massive spergfest about what a good pwn it was on Harmony, then immediately removed because the optics didn't go as planned.

And not a single consent issue was ever raised.
 
The admin staff of Wikidot were themselves unsure what the CC BY-SA 3.0 statement meant. Some thought it was just for the code so that things like widgets could be shared and improved upon. There was a whole other debate for the page’s actual content. This was in 2010.

It's almost like it was a bad idea to host a writing project on a wiki farm that was never meant for that kind of thing. The way the license interacts with Wikidot's design is bizarre and creates a lot of issues, but those issues matter less when it's an actual wiki, and not a creepypasta website pretending to be a wiki.
 
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