SCP Foundation - Creepypasta with roid rage - now ITT: SCP fans

Huh, apparently DrMagnus is also stepping down as Technical Team co-captain, although he's not retiring from his Admin position. Stormbreath and Aismallard are the new captains.

By the way, does anyone know what "Wikijump" is? Bluesoul references it in his retirement post, but I can't find any information about it. I initially assumed that it was just the new name for Project Foundation, but it looks like they haven't changed PF's name, at least not on the forums.
 
In other news, Bluesoul, wiki Admin and co-captain of the Technical Team, is retiring.
Huh, apparently DrMagnus is also stepping down as Technical Team co-captain, although he's not retiring from his Admin position. Stormbreath and Aismallard are the new captains.

By the way, does anyone know what "Wikijump" is? Bluesoul references it in his retirement post, but I can't find any information about it. I initially assumed that it was just the new name for Project Foundation, but it looks like they haven't changed PF's name, at least not on the forums.
Damn, they are dropping out like flies. I guess all the people who rated me :optimistic: for them throwing in the towel were wrong then.

 
Apparently the rules actually do allow users banned for harassment like Max Landis to request article edits, and staff is currently changing that. Note that they're okay with regular banned users making edit requests, but people banned by the Anti-Harassment Team like Max will be denied. Mystery solved, I guess.
Isn't the "Anti-Harassment Team" a bunch of pedos?
 
Isn't the "Anti-Harassment Team" a bunch of pedos?
I don't see any confirmed predators going down the list but there's evidence that they knew about the activities of people like Gabriel Jade and Eskobar for months before anything was done about them. SoullessSingularity, the former team captain who got outed for ignoring reports of inappropriate behavior by wiki staff despite knowing that it was happening, is still on the team, which should tell you how much they care about dealing with their predator problem.
 
So the pedostaff decided to edit the adult pages. Now people without wikidot accounts, minors, can see the adult content! There is also some community drama over this. Typical pedostaff.

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So the pedostaff decided to edit the adult pages. Now people without wikidot accounts, minors, can see the adult content! There is also some community drama over this. Typical pedostaff.

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It looks like the primary issue they have with the current policy is that viewing the blocked articles requires creating a Wikidot account and joining the wiki, but I have no idea what they're talking about when they call those things unintuitive and difficult. They're not. At all. Creating a Wikidot account is about as hard as creating an account for any other website, and becoming a wiki member isn't much harder if you have a functioning brain and can read. The only real issue with this process is that Wikidot will sometimes not work for certain email services, but this only happens some of the time, and it's not hard to make a burner email or something. Any kid too stupid to figure this shit out is too young to be viewing NSFW wiki articles, so it seems to me like the system they have in place right now is working exactly as intended.

It seems like staff thinks that everyone using the wiki without an account is a technologically illiterate dipshit who can't figure out anything that isn't being spoon-fed to them. Even if that's true, they could easily keep the member-gating in place and help morons through the process of joining the wiki by just putting all of the workarounds for Wikidot's various issues on the front page. You know, like they're currently doing with the issue of logins not working on certain web browsers. This really isn't a problem that needs solving.
 
OhIt looks like the primary issue they have with the current policy is that viewing the blocked articles requires creating a Wikidot account and joining the wiki, but I have no idea what they're talking about when they call those things unintuitive and difficult. They're not. At all. Creating a Wikidot account is about as hard as creating an account for any other website, and becoming a wiki member isn't much harder if you have a functioning brain and can read. The only real issue with this process is that Wikidot will sometimes not work for certain email services, but this only happens some of the time, and it's not hard to make a burner email or something. Any kid too stupid to figure this shit out is too young to be viewing NSFW wiki articles, so it seems to me like the system they have in place right now is working exactly as intended.

It seems like staff thinks that everyone using the wiki without an account is a technologically illiterate dipshit who can't figure out anything that isn't being spoon-fed to them. Even if that's true, they could easily keep the member-gating in place and help morons through the process of joining the wiki by just putting all of the workarounds for Wikidot's various issues on the front page. You know, like they're currently doing with the issue of logins not working on certain web browsers. This really isn't a problem that needs solving.

lol. They’ll gladly say that signing up for a Wikidot account is just too much to expect here, but they’ve said repeatedly that if you can’t figure out how to get onto their stone tablet of a chat, it’s because you don’t deserve to be there. They constantly tout it as a sort of entry test.

So you have a higher barrier to entry for members chatting with the community than you have for non-members accessing your adult content? I guess accessing the site’s smut should be easier and encouraged because it’s that important to you? It certainly is the chute that the kind of user SCP really values might use to slip down into the community. Gotta keep those recruitment channels wide open.

Here:
[2018-08-20 00:56:48] <DoctorMontaigne> It's odd that this chat works and the general isn't connecting correctly
[2018-08-20 00:57:30] <ProcyonLotor> Nah, you need to follow the registration instructions in the chat guide
[2018-08-20 00:57:45] <ProcyonLotor> Site19 requires a registered username to keep trolls out.
[2018-08-20 00:57:51] <ProcyonLotor> This does not, so we can help everyone
[2018-08-20 00:59:03] <DoctorMontaigne> w e l p
[2018-08-20 00:59:52] <DoctorMontaigne> it says "Chat is open to everyone", lemme go explore
[2018-08-20 01:00:04] <ProcyonLotor> well, it's open to everyone
[2018-08-20 01:00:16] <ProcyonLotor> they just need to register, which is an automatic process
[2018-08-20 01:00:27] <ProcyonLotor> in a similar fashion to creating an account for a website
[2018-08-20 01:01:06] <DoctorMontaigne> Well, I registered with wikidot
[2018-08-20 01:01:10] <DoctorMontaigne> under this name
[2018-08-20 01:01:17] <DoctorMontaigne> .user Doctor Montaigne
[2018-08-20 01:01:57] <ProcyonLotor> chat's separate
[2018-08-20 01:02:07] <ProcyonLotor> Just follow the instructions in the page I linked
[2018-08-20 01:11:30] <DoctorMontaigne> /msg NickServ register antithesis1
[2018-08-20 01:11:55] <DoctorMontaigne> ...
[2018-08-20 01:12:13] <DoctorMontaigne> This whole system is real confusing.
[2018-08-20 01:12:33] <ProcyonLotor> no, uh, leading space.
[2018-08-20 01:13:08] <DoctorMontaigne> fuck me sideways
[2018-08-20 01:13:17] <DoctorMontaigne> can messages be deleted?
[2018-08-20 01:13:23] <DoctorMontaigne> I used a new password anyway
[2018-08-20 01:14:40] <ProcyonLotor> they cannot, sorry
[2018-08-20 01:15:38] <DoctorMontaigne> Crap.
[2018-08-20 01:24:26] <DoctorMontaigne> Ok, it says I'm recognized now.
[2018-08-20 01:24:35] <DoctorMontaigne> Wish me luck
[2018-08-20 01:30:22] <DoctorMontaigne> Apparently i'm stuck in a loop now where I have to keep authoirizing this and it says it accepts it.
[2018-08-20 01:30:48] <tAFKeta> Have you tried just
[2018-08-20 01:30:50] <tAFKeta> /join #site19
[2018-08-20 01:31:05] <tAFKeta> Cause you got through the hardest part alright
[2018-08-20 01:31:19] <tAFKeta> all you need to do is join
[2018-08-20 01:32:47] <DoctorMontaigne> I'm not used to these older style text chats.
[2018-08-20 01:32:53] <DoctorMontaigne> I'm used to Skype and Discord
[2018-08-20 01:33:41] <ARD> it is literally as easy to register your nick in this chat as it is in discord
[2018-08-20 01:34:53] <ProcyonLotor> It's a bet confusing up first if you're not used to the protocol but once you're used to it it's a lot simpler and (at least in my humble opinion) better than Discord.

This happens probably 20 times a day. Anyone on staff chat duty will tell you guiding people through the chat protocol is 99% of their job and it is misery.

Anyone on the other side of it will tell you it is an absolute mess trying to figure it
out, with the guide.

Here’s from a O5 discussion about it:
18:52 Their primary reasoning is that IRC is too hard to use vs. discord
18:53 Tuomey: That is, frankly, not true. It's very slightly harder but also it's only harder becaue you put hte information in a text box instead of a webform
18:53 Tuomey: This confuses some people because they can't put information in the right order despite speaking Englis and having the required reading comprehension to use the site
18:54 Tuomey: We help people with registration if they have problems
18:56 Tuomey: And it takes about as much brainpower to get into 17 to get told how to get into 19, if one is having trouble with that
18:57 Tuomey: if someone can't join 19 after having it explained to them in 17
18:57 Tuomey: then they're probably not capable of contributing productively
18:58 Tuomey: or even at an overall net of 0 productivity


“Joining irc via the embedded widget is literally the same as registering for a site, except in one text box instead of three or four.

EDIT EDIT: Actually, I'd like to seriously object to the claims of elitism. I'm not throwing the guide at people and saying "figure it out" - I help people figure it out. I tell them what to type and where to type it and what to do if it goes wrong and they accidentally show their password. I've held probably a hundred people's hands through the registration process.

If I was being elitist? I'd have told them to feck off. I'm out here in the chat helping people as much as - if not more than - anyone else. I don't go to bed before making sure someone else is handling anyone who pops up needing help as I'm signing off for the night.

I'm not trying to gate the chat. All I'm saying is that if you cannot follow instructions both in a guide and explained specifically to you, in attempts to fit your understanding, multiple times then you are perhaps not going to fit well in a chat that talks at maximum speed about topics from a to z. You are going to get lost. You are going to be confused as to how we switched topics so quickly. You are going to be annoyed about it. It's not going to be fun for you or for anyone trying to help you out.

This is from experience. A certain level of fast reading comprehension is needed to keep up with a fast chatroom. Our crit chatroom is not gated by registration and does not move nearly as fast, it's just not for general chat that would be unenjoyable if you're trying to keep up with twenty thousand memes a minute.”
- Toumey
And yet:
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Nah, don’t sell your site short here. You aren’t like most sites. Most sites don’t have a history of its underage users being molested by grooming rings embedded in the power structure. Most sites don’t make clumsy adult content policies simply because it was exposed and felt like it needed to save face. And then backtrack when they don’t like the result those policies are supposed to effect. Most sites demographics aren’t explicitly published as being adolescent, or have the range of age you do, with the cult following your authors like to aspire to.

At least a straight up porn site doesn’t have the risk of the 40 year old operators rubbing shoulders with its illegitimate underage users. At least it just is what it is and doesn’t pretend to be a writing site. That’s the dangerous part, not the lack of adult content warnings, you dipshits. You didn’t do anything to actually address that part, except let the ringleader step down as if it were volitional, take the fall, and just leave the rings right where they were.

The bureaucratic shape shifting is contortionist-grade. So what’s the difference here? Why would they suddenly drop their defining elitism and grow some odd sympathy for the lack of technical skills and think that making a Wikidot account is superduper too hard?

Because it has to do with their audience — mostly kids — accessing their smut; kids who will probably show up in the satellite communities on r/scp, the Discords, and Tumblrs. At least by forcing them to join the site you make them work to lie about it. And grant them the potential to be banned if they are found to be lying about their age. Now, you are just letting them buy the beer and just not asking for the ID.

These non-registered visitors in all statistical likelihood, according to your own data, are majority kids. Who either don’t know how to join because they’re too stupid — you guys like them that way though —, or they know they are underage and think they shouldn’t, or hell maybe they are smart as hell and avoid actually interacting with you knowing that your ulterior culture is now public fact. A majority of these invisible visitors aren’t adults who are so eager to read your smut fiction that just can’t be bothered to put down their fapping hand, type up an email address, and wait for you to accept them.

Maybe a better thing to make an O5 thread about is why so many of your well-known articles have to be tagged Adult. “Numerous well known SCP articles.” Or ask what’s the point of having an age limit of 18 for admission if you get rid of this, other than that being the minimum needed to virtue signal in direct response to the skeletons exposed in your closet? Bad look.
 
EDIT: Because I don't feel like double posting like a tard. What is with the goddamn giant robot/kaiju/wannabe Pacific Rim stuff now appearing in SCP land? That is so, so, SO not fucking 'in theme'. Jesus, the GAW stuff is better than that shit. At least it fits in the theme better.
It's the current meta, it's not about the anomaly but rather you need a lot of narrative to make your article "good". I see new writers on the forum being told to enhance the narrative in their stories and they are forced to comply. SCP-5000 is literally an invisible suit while a dude transcribes a diary on how Foundation is now evil and stuff, and it won the 5000 contest. Some newer articles are kinda decent but I miss those short and easy-to-digest articles.
 
It looks like the primary issue they have with the current policy is that viewing the blocked articles requires creating a Wikidot account and joining the wiki, but I have no idea what they're talking about when they call those things unintuitive and difficult. They're not. At all. Creating a Wikidot account is about as hard as creating an account for any other website, and becoming a wiki member isn't much harder if you have a functioning brain and can read. The only real issue with this process is that Wikidot will sometimes not work for certain email services, but this only happens some of the time, and it's not hard to make a burner email or something. Any kid too stupid to figure this shit out is too young to be viewing NSFW wiki articles, so it seems to me like the system they have in place right now is working exactly as intended.

It seems like staff thinks that everyone using the wiki without an account is a technologically illiterate dipshit who can't figure out anything that isn't being spoon-fed to them. Even if that's true, they could easily keep the member-gating in place and help morons through the process of joining the wiki by just putting all of the workarounds for Wikidot's various issues on the front page. You know, like they're currently doing with the issue of logins not working on certain web browsers. This really isn't a problem that needs solving.
Pedostaff. You know the most people that can't figure out how to join the site? Minors. Children. I don't know if they're trying to fix an issue that isn't there or belittling their subjects. I'm unsure on which is worse for them.
 
So you have a higher barrier to entry for members chatting with the community than you have for non-members accessing your adult content? I guess accessing the site’s smut should be easier and encouraged because it’s that important to you? It certainly is the chute that the kind of user SCP really values might use to slip down into the community. Gotta keep those recruitment channels wide open.
Why would they get rid of IRC? Gotta grab those IPs somehow.
 
Why would they get rid of IRC? Gotta grab those IPs somehow.
This is the only reason I can think of for why they keep it around. IRC is inferior to Discord in almost every way, and nobody would complain if they switched. The only advantage IRC has over Discord for staff is that Administrators can easily grab the IP of anyone who joins, which makes getting the IPs of people you don't like really easy. We know that staff members have used someone's IP maliciously at least once before, when Bright went after a random kid who was trolling the wiki, and we only know about that incident because he was stupid enough to brag about it. Who knows what else they're doing with these behind closed doors?
There is also some community drama over this.
Can you post some of it? I did a little digging and can't find anything. Seems like it would be entertaining to read.
 
lol. They’ll gladly say that signing up for a Wikidot account is just too much to expect here, but they’ve said repeatedly that if you can’t figure out how to get onto their stone tablet of a chat, it’s because you don’t deserve to be there. They constantly tout it as a sort of entry test.

So you have a higher barrier to entry for members chatting with the community than you have for non-members accessing your adult content? I guess accessing the site’s smut should be easier and encouraged because it’s that important to you? It certainly is the chute that the kind of user SCP really values might use to slip down into the community. Gotta keep those recruitment channels wide open.

Here:
[2018-08-20 00:56:48] <DoctorMontaigne> It's odd that this chat works and the general isn't connecting correctly
[2018-08-20 00:57:30] <ProcyonLotor> Nah, you need to follow the registration instructions in the chat guide
[2018-08-20 00:57:45] <ProcyonLotor> Site19 requires a registered username to keep trolls out.
[2018-08-20 00:57:51] <ProcyonLotor> This does not, so we can help everyone
[2018-08-20 00:59:03] <DoctorMontaigne> w e l p
[2018-08-20 00:59:52] <DoctorMontaigne> it says "Chat is open to everyone", lemme go explore
[2018-08-20 01:00:04] <ProcyonLotor> well, it's open to everyone
[2018-08-20 01:00:16] <ProcyonLotor> they just need to register, which is an automatic process
[2018-08-20 01:00:27] <ProcyonLotor> in a similar fashion to creating an account for a website
[2018-08-20 01:01:06] <DoctorMontaigne> Well, I registered with wikidot
[2018-08-20 01:01:10] <DoctorMontaigne> under this name
[2018-08-20 01:01:17] <DoctorMontaigne> .user Doctor Montaigne
[2018-08-20 01:01:57] <ProcyonLotor> chat's separate
[2018-08-20 01:02:07] <ProcyonLotor> Just follow the instructions in the page I linked
[2018-08-20 01:11:30] <DoctorMontaigne> /msg NickServ register antithesis1
[2018-08-20 01:11:55] <DoctorMontaigne> ...
[2018-08-20 01:12:13] <DoctorMontaigne> This whole system is real confusing.
[2018-08-20 01:12:33] <ProcyonLotor> no, uh, leading space.
[2018-08-20 01:13:08] <DoctorMontaigne> fuck me sideways
[2018-08-20 01:13:17] <DoctorMontaigne> can messages be deleted?
[2018-08-20 01:13:23] <DoctorMontaigne> I used a new password anyway
[2018-08-20 01:14:40] <ProcyonLotor> they cannot, sorry
[2018-08-20 01:15:38] <DoctorMontaigne> Crap.
[2018-08-20 01:24:26] <DoctorMontaigne> Ok, it says I'm recognized now.
[2018-08-20 01:24:35] <DoctorMontaigne> Wish me luck
[2018-08-20 01:30:22] <DoctorMontaigne> Apparently i'm stuck in a loop now where I have to keep authoirizing this and it says it accepts it.
[2018-08-20 01:30:48] <tAFKeta> Have you tried just
[2018-08-20 01:30:50] <tAFKeta> /join #site19
[2018-08-20 01:31:05] <tAFKeta> Cause you got through the hardest part alright
[2018-08-20 01:31:19] <tAFKeta> all you need to do is join
[2018-08-20 01:32:47] <DoctorMontaigne> I'm not used to these older style text chats.
[2018-08-20 01:32:53] <DoctorMontaigne> I'm used to Skype and Discord
[2018-08-20 01:33:41] <ARD> it is literally as easy to register your nick in this chat as it is in discord
[2018-08-20 01:34:53] <ProcyonLotor> It's a bet confusing up first if you're not used to the protocol but once you're used to it it's a lot simpler and (at least in my humble opinion) better than Discord.

This happens probably 20 times a day. Anyone on staff chat duty will tell you guiding people through the chat protocol is 99% of their job and it is misery.

Anyone on the other side of it will tell you it is an absolute mess trying to figure it
out, with the guide.


“Joining irc via the embedded widget is literally the same as registering for a site, except in one text box instead of three or four.

EDIT EDIT: Actually, I'd like to seriously object to the claims of elitism. I'm not throwing the guide at people and saying "figure it out" - I help people figure it out. I tell them what to type and where to type it and what to do if it goes wrong and they accidentally show their password. I've held probably a hundred people's hands through the registration process.

If I was being elitist? I'd have told them to feck off. I'm out here in the chat helping people as much as - if not more than - anyone else. I don't go to bed before making sure someone else is handling anyone who pops up needing help as I'm signing off for the night.

I'm not trying to gate the chat. All I'm saying is that if you cannot follow instructions both in a guide and explained specifically to you, in attempts to fit your understanding, multiple times then you are perhaps not going to fit well in a chat that talks at maximum speed about topics from a to z. You are going to get lost. You are going to be confused as to how we switched topics so quickly. You are going to be annoyed about it. It's not going to be fun for you or for anyone trying to help you out.

This is from experience. A certain level of fast reading comprehension is needed to keep up with a fast chatroom. Our crit chatroom is not gated by registration and does not move nearly as fast, it's just not for general chat that would be unenjoyable if you're trying to keep up with twenty thousand memes a minute.”
- Toumey
They just make their junior staff and general users handle things. Only person on staff I've ever seen actually "helping" is MalyceGraves but even he is really rude to people he decides are "dipshits". Look at the http://05command.wikidot.com/forum/t-13437858/generic-17-ban-thread. There are a lot of times of him in there.


Can you post some of it? I did a little digging and can't find anything. Seems like it would be entertaining to read.
I couldn't find it either. Pedostaff were complaining about it in their chats apparently. Hoping you would find more information on it. Shame we can't find it though.
 
They just make their junior staff and general users handle things. Only person on staff I've ever seen actually "helping" is MalyceGraves but even he is really rude to people he decides are "dipshits". Look at the http://05command.wikidot.com/forum/t-13437858/generic-17-ban-thread. There are a lot of times of him in there.
MalyceGraves is a strange case. It seems like staff trusts them a lot, because they went from regular user to chat operator in a little over 3 months according to this thread. They're also the only member of Operational Staff on the Disciplinary Team, a position that has been reserved for Mods and Admins for years. They're listed as being on some other staff teams, but I don't see them doing much work for those teams going through their Wikidot history. I do, however, remember seeing them basically doing all the work for that one wiki survey themselves. It seems like they gained favor with staff by doing a lot of grunt work, and are now enjoying the power that comes with their position without doing much other than banning people and posting to Disciplinary threads.
I couldn't find it either. Pedostaff were complaining about it in their chats apparently. Hoping you would find more information on it. Shame we can't find it though.
Explains why I couldn't find it. I'm not in any SCP chats, so I can only see the things staff say publicly. I find it strange that no staff members have objected to the policy change in the public thread if they have a problem with it. Keeping this discussion in places where most people can't see it isn't a good look for a group that has a history of doing shitty things behind closed doors.

By the way, on the topic of staff using IRC to grab IPs, check out this thread (archive) where a member of staff reports a random troll to their ISP using the troll's full IP address and registration email. I guess we know definitively why they won't switch to Discord now.
 
It's the current meta, it's not about the anomaly but rather you need a lot of narrative to make your article "good". I see new writers on the forum being told to enhance the narrative in their stories and they are forced to comply. SCP-5000 is literally an invisible suit while a dude transcribes a diary on how Foundation is now evil and stuff, and it won the 5000 contest. Some newer articles are kinda decent but I miss those short and easy-to-digest articles.
THIS trend, not SJW bullshit, is what got me to stop following SCP's.

Overtly SJW SCP's are honestly pretty few in number. Unless you go looking for them, you're not really going to run across enough instances of soy language for you to think of it as a massive problem plaguing the site. THIS bullshit on the other hand? Every other article is a fucking tryhard novel where the SCP itself is literally just a hook. Sometimes this can be done well - more often than not, your hook isn't interesting enough for me to give a crap about the rest of your article. Generally, it's just writers thinking they're way more clever than they actually are.

5000 highlights another thing that bugs me about tryhard SCP's - the need to HIDE important information; not in subtext or metaphor, but to literally hide it in whitetext, or in an image, or in the fucking page formatting, because they think it's clever or something. Because the answer to why the Foundation is killing everyone is that they accidentally triggered something that made them see humanity the same way SCP-682 does - but this is only revealed though a secret dialogue hidden inside an image.
 
By the way, on the topic of staff using IRC to grab IPs, check out this thread (archive) where a member of staff reports a random troll to their ISP using the troll's full IP address and registration email. I guess we know definitively why they won't switch to Discord now.
Reading that was just strange. Users have been questioning that staff member for that creepy behavior but the rest of chat staff are just complicit. Another way for pedostaff to do their pedostaffing too?
 
Sometimes this can be done well - more often than not, your hook isn't interesting enough for me to give a crap about the rest of your article. Generally, it's just writers thinking they're way more clever than they actually are.
Narrative SCPs were a mistake. They're nothing but trash.
 
Staff is working on updating their site FAQ.
http://topia.wikidot.com/collab:faq-rewrite

Here are some highlights:
Why do you have an age limit?

The SCP Wiki expects a certain standard of maturity. Presently, the SCP Wiki is in a three-year process of raising its age limit from fifteen to eighteen; as a result, anyone born before May 8, 2005 will not be old enough to join the site by the time the age requirement increases each year.


I'm mature enough, but I'm technically underage. Can you make an exception?

Apologies, but we can't make exceptions for "maturity". If you tell us you're underage, or if we figure it out, we'll be forced to ban you.

However, excepting extenuating circumstances, we'll be happy to let you in as soon as you hit the right age.

Can I reserve an SCP number on the list?

No, you cannot. SCP numbers are first come, first serve.

>The staff have a complicated history of approving some slot reservations when an influential-enough member asks for it. For ex, they granted 4911 (the one about 9-11) because it has “911” in it. This caused a lot of anger and resentment, especially when other people were denied who had arguably better reasons. The optics ended up being that lesser users are simply told they can’t, moderate users are told there has to be a really really good reason for it before being denied, and ruling-class members can do it with garbage reasons. The bias is well documented in the site17 chat logs.


Is that [other site member] single?

That is not your business, and it doesn't matter if they're single or not! This is not a dating website. Hitting on other users is a terrible idea. And if you creep people out, you'll get banned pretty quick.

Where is (insert member of site staff)?

Hang out in chat and see if they show up. Listings of staff members can be found on the Contact Staff and Meet The Staff pages. Please note that some people have permanently left the community and aren't around anymore. site 12.

>Fixed this one.
 
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