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The dude has his own pre-lolcow training wheels thread. What a PR nightmare. Now do IHP.Oh, absolutely. Staff probably have one or two people monitoring this thread just in case they need to rush to censor something.
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The dude has his own pre-lolcow training wheels thread. What a PR nightmare. Now do IHP.Oh, absolutely. Staff probably have one or two people monitoring this thread just in case they need to rush to censor something.
Of course. Letting us do all the work.Oh, absolutely. Staff probably have one or two people monitoring this thread just in case they need to rush to censor something.
Sure. I don't know much about him, but I'll do a quick overview.Now do IHP.
Well, Roget/Harmony has successfully gotten staff to actually listen to the opinions of people who aren't staff on a large scale, so that's something. If this is made a community vote, the work is probably going to be kept up. Also, Kaktus once again confirmed what we already knew, that they still read this thread.They’re holding a community discussion about what should be done with Harmony’s writing. Most people are opposed to it being deleted, but others say that removing it would be the only moral thing to do.
http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-14007108/town-hall-meeting:mass-deletion-request# / https://archive.md/9zmb9
I say welcome. That information needs to get out there. Doesn't matter who spreads it.Also, Kaktus once again confirmed what we already knew, that they still read this thread.
I see where you're coming from, but it's not really staff's fault that a bunch of people wrote things based on Roget/Harmony's work.Really just the fact that deleting Roget's work would apparently so severely harm the wiki tells you how much they over-relied on canon and self-reference.
Buckle your seatbelt.Well fuck, this thread certainly had some developments. I honestly had no that PixelatedHarmony and Roget were the same person, let alone making an ass out of themselves on The Farms.
And FTR, I'm pretty sure that Roget's a dude, unless they decided to become a tranny.
so clever much authorThe sky above the port was the color of- well, he didn't really know what. Some antiquated shade of grey, maybe.
“The tree was crooked and twig-like, as if it was a crooked twig-tree.”Off-topic, but here's one I forgot to include on the highlight reel: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/ghosts-in-the-machine The opening line is the worst I've ever read. Me and the boys on RPC used to rail on this a lot and for good reason.
so clever much author
There's been a lot of sweet irony in this thread. Seems like pedostaff stick to this thread like moths to a lamp for whatever reason.I find it sweetly ironic that the same person that got me banned from everywhere and cut me off from my friends for "endangering the identity of SCP-INT staff" (having a single public chat screencap i took be posted here) and encouraged every INT representative to consider me persona non grata for being associated with KF folk is now a KF poster. What was that about being two-faced, huh Roget?
I understand this and would like to couple this post with:Now this may seem hypocritical to what I just said, but there really ISN'T a pedo ring. There are pedophiles in SCP, but they're not interconnected. KiwiFarms genuinely does overinflate the issue, and to be blunt it does not help solving the issue. The predators in the community aren't interconnected at all, which actually makes dealing with it more difficult as it is, because I'm relatively sure they aren't even aware of each other, which is why I believe people like Bright have gotten away with it for so long; Because as far as the higher ups can tell, it's not real, it's not connected, and it's too small of an issue for them to bother handling beyond scoffing at. Sorry if my responses seem confused and uncoordinated, this is over half a decade of emotional abuse, self disgust, and rampant attention addiction being squeezed into comparatively small responses.
I know we're not here to stop the pedos, but this is certainly good to keep in mind if you've at least a level head about the issue.No lie, your pedostaff schtick is the bread and butter of the excuses that staff use to write KF off as irrelevant because it’s so detached from reality and it doesn’t seem like people here ever took it seriously and as such it makes you look like amateur hour and again, this gives cover to the actual pedophiles that statistics show will at the very least be in the author pool if not in staff already multiple times over. So throwing it around at anyone who strikes you as a target is counterproductive if you actually want to stop pedos.
I understand this and would like to couple this post with:
I know we're not here to stop the pedos, but this is certainly good to keep in mind if you've at least a level head about the issue.
This is a tipped-over nuke. Among other nukes. Just a matter of which side it will fall towards.They’re holding a community discussion about what should be done with Harmony’s writing. Most people are opposed to it being deleted, but others say that removing it would be the only moral thing to do.
http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-14007108/town-hall-meeting:mass-deletion-request# / https://archive.md/9zmb9
I'd just like to point out that they had no problem acting like they had to follow rules and precedent and saying that their hands were tired when Max Landis asked for his article to be edited, but now that a popular and prolific author is asking them to do something they don't want to do, suddenly they're able to abandon precedent and put it to a community vote. This is cowardice, plain and simple.This is a tipped-over nuke. Among other nukes. Just a matter of which side it will fall towards.
So, will it be “a massive hole within the literary setting”? Or a massive hole in their morality? Which one is more important to the community; a respect for the free will of the authors that create their entertainment, or an uninterrupted user experience?This message from staff, even just in kicking it back to a democratic vote & regardless of the outcome, is that SCP’s claim to others’ works as their intellectual property might be equal to or more important than their foundational principles with those others, who make them successful. Property & popularity > promises & principles.
The part about “genuinely not knowing what the right course of action” is BS imo. The moral knot isn’t a difficult one to untie schematically; it’s very straightforward. It’s not an ethics conundrum.
The principle of SCP has been respecting the author’s autonomy despite the CC license and its legality; the author has written under these understood terms; while not a legal right, it has been regarded as a moral right for the author to revoke their own works, whether violently or agreeably; now this author has chosen to do so violently; that’s very unfortunate and means a big headache for the staff, and a big loss for the bookshelf collection for the community, but this has been a known possibility all along; that the author doesn’t want to compromise is not their bad and staff are ultimately not responsible for that decision by the terms of their virtue.
Until now, that is, when they’ve taken the opportunity to suggest avoiding all this by modifying the collaborative fabric of the site in a strange instance of democratic appeal —as opposed to their more typical fiat or oligarchical methods. (They didn’t put Metaphysician’s plagiarism to a community vote, the logo to a community vote, you get the idea.) That they are tempted by the community to put it to a vote is cowardice and should be understood as the stripping naked of author dignity, dangling their moral liberties like meat over a hungry crowd. Ironically, that sort of treatment is what is waiting for you given success + disagreement at SCP. (As opposed to disagreement without success, which is merely just unceremonious banishment). Their moral contract is capped at a certain amount of accrued updoots it seems.
Death of the author indeed.
P.S. Funny to see that not even a newly budded trans in all its social justice glory has enough oppression points to cash this in with them after all. Bunchvirtue salesmen.