SCP Foundation - Creepypasta with roid rage - now ITT: SCP fans

[Baubius]

OH, this reminds me -- Shaggy passed by RPC Discord a while ago and asked for some good RPCs that were Gamma or above (basically Keter equivalents) to crosslink in his rewrite. Turns out IHP got mad at him and outright said no LOL

...what?

in what universe would crosslinking to rpc on scp be okay?

 

[LordSifr]

...what?

in what universe would crosslinking to rpc on scp be okay?

None but it's in the same vein as pic related so it's fine with me

 

[Pope Negro Joe the XIIIth]

To provide some context...

Spoiler: IMAGES & RANT

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The one that is sideways is ripped from IHP's Keter Duty, while the other one is the original Sephiroth.

Basically the Sephiroth is a set of 10 attributes ("emanations") through which the Ein Sof (God) creates existence and several metaphysical realms. They are more or less associated with parts of the body and human experiences, but also have some symbological/allegorical meaning. This is all within the context of Jewish esoterism, AKA Kabbalah.

For instance, "Keter" (AKA "God's Crown") is pretty much an allusion to complete, united godhood and divine will, literally & metaphorically above what humankind can achieve (much like a crown is right above your head at all times). IHP made an insanely literal interpretation of this by making it a physical location that is unreachable and in which the essence of reality rests (save for the fact that it is actually reached within the article, thus defeating its own symbolism lol. unless it's somehow trying to imply the Foundation attained godhood in which case it's even worse.)

Similarly, "Malkhut" is interpreted as the entry point to the rest of the facility, as the mediating point between God's creation and the attributes of God: it's a moon that reflects God's shine rather than having one of its own. "Binah" and "Hakmah" are more irritatingly literal -- Binah means understanding so it's Sapient Containment, Hakmah means Wisdom so it's Conceptual Containment. Other relations continue in a similar vein, with each "Root" connecting containment cores being equally literal interpretations of how each Sephiroth emanation connects with another.

What's so frustrating about this interpretation is that it is permanently on-the-nose about referencing the superficial significance of the Sephiroth: it practically bastardizes the Kabbalah and its doctrine to sound and look deep, a la Evangelion.

This is in stark, stark contrast with the original KD. While still kind of a meh interpretation, it took every Keter object to be a kind of "brick" of reality that exists in a pair, fighting among each other in a cycle of self-containment. This is why the facility was termed Thaumiel class (the first Thaumiel object, actually) -- it refers to the inversion or shadow of the Sephiroth, which is the Qliphoth.

Thaumiel is the shadow of Keter: rather than unity it refers to the lack thereof, the division and conflict among equals. SCP-001 thus divides and sows conflict among brothers. What's a little odd about Keter Duty is that it seems to invert the Kabbalah -- Keter objects being released causes reality to break and fall apart into chaos, rather than to reconstitute from the chaos that Thaumiel provokes.

Apologies for the rant.

I feel like now you've explained it a bit i'm seriously leaning towards "looking it up on wikipeda," scanning a article and then GIS for EVIL LOOKING sephiroth -Final Fantasy."

Never forget that the overwhelming numbers who don't have a clue what's going on right now or why it matters to the site. It's sad, I was lurking around when it was a year or two old but wow what in the fuck happened. I'm forcing myself through 4-5000 and that's a success rate of a decent one every 30 or so. I like torturing myself, don't judge me.

 

[and 127 others]

drop the sperging and check this out: Ihp and Locke rewrote Keter Duty. what do you think?

Spoiler

 

[ZMOT]

Never forget that the overwhelming numbers who don't have a clue what's going on right now or why it matters to the site. It's sad, I was lurking around when it was a year or two old but wow what in the fuck happened. I'm forcing myself through 4-5000 and that's a success rate of a decent one every 30 or so. I like torturing myself, don't judge me.

I couldn't even do it. mate got me fixed on some spoopy recently so I was re-reading some of the early SPCs up to around 1500 and man, the difference is staggering.

for the record, I haven't checked the site for a few years. but just compare
http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-701
which is already longer than a lot of them, to shit like
http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-4582
which tells me like fucking nothing, is part of some weird arc I'm supposed to give a shit about, and what's with those shitty german categories? and what's with those fucking dates? and 25 fucking foot notes? absolute worst of all is that suddenly different layout (even if "story" is it's a "stolen" entry). out of curiosity I checked out the next three, and they all have different layouts/headers. I've seen shitty geocities sites with stars background and marquee tags all over the place with more consistency.

and if the technicalities weren't bad enough, that fucking writing took a nosedive so hard it dug through the earth and came out the other side of the planet. so you're telling me some mobile task force, the toughest motherfuckers running around dealing with shit that will literally mindrape you to death, suddenly care about fucking gender pronouns? not to mention it's written like some dudebro camping trip, compared to hardened veterans being professional out of necessity. but sure, the people being in constantly life-threatening situations are bored enough to be a genderspecial snowflake. with the biggest irony being that if the foundation really gave a fucking shit about it, there are probably a few anomalies at that point who could just warp your gender for lulz (and if not just fucking write one and be done with it).
to be fair logs were always hit or miss, but it was never that bad.

I expected it to be bad, but holy fuck...

not even MATI, more like

 

[LordSifr]

I couldn't even do it. mate got me fixed on some spoopy recently so I was re-reading some of the early SPCs up to around 1500 and man, the difference is staggering.

for the record, I haven't checked the site for a few years. but just compare
http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-701
which is already longer than a lot of them, to shit like
http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-4582
which tells me like fucking nothing, is part of some weird arc I'm supposed to give a shit about, and what's with those shitty german categories? and what's with those fucking dates? and 25 fucking foot notes? absolute worst of all is that suddenly different layout (even if "story" is it's a "stolen" entry). out of curiosity I checked out the next three, and they all have different layouts/headers. I've seen shitty geocities sites with stars background and marquee tags all over the place with more consistency.

and if the technicalities weren't bad enough, that fucking writing took a nosedive so hard it dug through the earth and came out the other side of the planet. so you're telling me some mobile task force, the toughest motherfuckers running around dealing with shit that will literally mindrape you to death, suddenly care about fucking gender pronouns? not to mention it's written like some dudebro camping trip, compared to hardened veterans being professional out of necessity. but sure, the people being in constantly life-threatening situations are bored enough to be a genderspecial snowflake. with the biggest irony being that if the foundation really gave a fucking shit about it, there are probably a few anomalies at that point who could just warp your gender for lulz (and if not just fucking write one and be done with it).
to be fair logs were always hit or miss, but it was never that bad.

I expected it to be bad, but holy fuck...

not even MATI, more like
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Gonna be honest, I don't see what's so bad about 4582. It's not even particularly popular. I mean -- the footnote-dialogue and general characterization and goofyness make me roll my eyes kinda, but this isn't egregious stuff.

The snowflake complaints are retarded, plain and simple. This doesn't make up any significant amount of the site's writing, nor is it an objective measurement of quality like you seem to believe -- like, Jesus Christ man, they're just pronouns. Three letters at most. What change does it make? There's plenty of genuine and valid criticisms to make all around, but this one is stupid.

The pretension that everyone MUST sound PROFESSIONAL at ALL TIMES is equally retarded. I implore you to watch any army movie ever and see how these people banter among themselves. I partly get it: MSTs are special forces, they're supposed to be really good at what they do, blah-blah, but this perception that they cannot ever breach formality is just blindness to normal human behaviour.

 

[Cow-Chan]

Gonna be honest, I don't see what's so bad about 4582. It's not even particularly popular.

It's a usual case of "Old good! New bad!" syndrome that so many people seem to have over SCP related shit.

 

[Pope Negro Joe the XIIIth]

Gonna be honest, I don't see what's so bad about 4582. It's not even particularly popular. I mean -- the footnote-dialogue and general characterization and goofyness make me roll my eyes kinda, but this isn't egregious stuff.

The snowflake complaints are retarded, plain and simple. This doesn't make up any significant amount of the site's writing, nor is it an objective measurement of quality like you seem to believe -- like, Jesus Christ man, they're just pronouns. Three letters at most. What change does it make? There's plenty of genuine and valid criticisms to make all around, but this one is stupid.

The pretension that everyone MUST sound PROFESSIONAL at ALL TIMES is equally retarded. I implore you to watch any army movie ever and see how these people banter among themselves. I partly get it: MSTs are special forces, they're supposed to be really good at what they do, blah-blah, but this perception that they cannot ever breach formality is just blindness to normal human behaviour.

I) that reasoning is how SCP got this way "sure it's not great, but meh throw on in anyways"
2) it automatically cuts people who don't care about your made up words out of the story and belies an automatical ham handed political "point"
3) You should if you want anyone to take you seriously.
4) And in general, this is just supposed to be the most important organization in the world, hunting these horrifying entities, private military, etc. They shouldn't be having fun time games because they hold reality in their palms.

 

[Pope Negro Joe the XIIIth]

Ok, I'm 2xing here to point out something to certain posters, you guys need to understand most of us were around for this stuff in the beginning.

When it was a cohesive narrative that worked instead of this patchwork shit. I'm sorry if my opinion is upsetting you here but the truth is most of you in the thread weren't even alive at that time. You're defending a system that to you make senses, but did the old old user these justifications are terrible.

We're almost discussing two different versions of SCP

 

[ZMOT]

The snowflake complaints are retarded, plain and simple. This doesn't make up any significant amount of the site's writing, nor is it an objective measurement of quality like you seem to believe -- like, Jesus Christ man, they're just pronouns. Three letters at most. What change does it make? There's plenty of genuine and valid criticisms to make all around, but this one is stupid.

because it doesn't make sense. there's a difference between a researcher wanting to run around with whatever pronoun xe thinks up and a combatant. it's not even the same mindset. but you're probably right, some hulking bundle of testosterone punching anomalies in the face before getting eaten sure will ponder if he was born into the right body in the meantime.

also "it's just x, who cares" is a poor excuse. well, it's just some shitty entries, who cares? rest is good and makes up for it, right?
it's a symptom of a bigger issue, if you suck writing levity and a grounded scenario, you fucking failed. I don't need "super serious no fun allowed" constantly, but there's a time and place for that, just as there is for gender pronouns however you want to use it.

The pretension that everyone MUST sound PROFESSIONAL at ALL TIMES is equally retarded. I implore you to watch any army movie ever and see how these people banter among themselves. I partly get it: MSTs are special forces, they're supposed to be really good at what they do, blah-blah, but this perception that they cannot ever breach formality is just blindness to normal human behaviour.

>army movie
>realistic
there's also a big difference between r&r and being on the job. if I want quips and lolsorandum completely missing the tone I might as well watch capeshit.
like I said SCP always had the issue of their logs being all over the place, to the point you'd have to think SCP is majority run by retards where dumb luck keeps them from getting blowing things up (most of the time). that's neither engaging nor interesting in the long run.

It's a usual case of "Old good! New bad!" syndrome that so many people seem to have over SCP related shit.

yeah, it's not like you could flip the numbers around and suddenly everything would be ok...

 

[Pope Negro Joe the XIIIth]

It's a usual case of "Old good! New bad!" syndrome that so many people seem to have over SCP related shit.

Have you read the new stuff? It is overwhelmingly bad. At least half the shit is "microwave found in an ancient cave that only heats Dinty Moore stew" but wait! Not really because it's tied to this 19 page mythos that reads like baby's first sociopolitical essay on metaphysics.

Some of them are passable, some are actually good, but if you need to constantly name drop pre 2000 writers to have a point you're just prodding a corpse with a stick and claiming it's moving on its own. Let's not even mention that the admins know they're bad too, because why not delete PH's work if the newer stuff is so much better?

I love scp but it's functionally dead at this point due to the rerard cabal who ruined it with NOT ENOUGH GAY, 489 IS TRANS, MAGIC SCIENCE MONKEY MAN, NO ACTUAL SCARY.

 

[Gar For Archer]

Gonna be honest, I don't see what's so bad about 4582. It's not even particularly popular. I mean -- the footnote-dialogue and general characterization and goofyness make me roll my eyes kinda, but this isn't egregious stuff.

The snowflake complaints are retarded, plain and simple. This doesn't make up any significant amount of the site's writing, nor is it an objective measurement of quality like you seem to believe -- like, Jesus Christ man, they're just pronouns. Three letters at most. What change does it make? There's plenty of genuine and valid criticisms to make all around, but this one is stupid.

The pretension that everyone MUST sound PROFESSIONAL at ALL TIMES is equally retarded. I implore you to watch any army movie ever and see how these people banter among themselves. I partly get it: MSTs are special forces, they're supposed to be really good at what they do, blah-blah, but this perception that they cannot ever breach formality is just blindness to normal human behaviour.

The fact that it doesn’t fucking matter is exactly what makes its inclusion retarded.

If it doesn’t matter to the story, why even include it? (I mean, it’s a rhetorical question, we all know why). If it’s important enough for you to put in, then it’s important enough for me to complain about as stupid and out of place. Only Twitter-obsessed weirdos care so much about fucking pronouns to bring them up when they don’t matter, normal people don’t talk like that.

 

[fishercat]

Has anyone brought up the tit blob monster that makes people regress into a babylike state and makes people compelled to suck on it? Because it's gross and I hate it.

The sexy doorknob was edited but this is still up. The absolute state of that website.

 

[BurnerPhone]

It's a usual case of "Old good! New bad!" syndrome that so many people seem to have over SCP related shit.

If "old good, new bad" is the usual case, then maybe new actually is bad

 

[Cow-Chan]

If "old good, new bad" is the usual case, then maybe new actually is bad

Not really. I don't particularly care for the main SCP community these days, but you can pretty much play punch buggy with the kind of people who've been banned or didn't make the quality cut based purely on those kinds of comments.

 

[LordSifr]

I) that reasoning is how SCP got this way "sure it's not great, but meh throw on in anyways"
2) it automatically cuts people who don't care about your made up words out of the story and belies an automatical ham handed political "point"
3) You should if you want anyone to take you seriously.
4) And in general, this is just supposed to be the most important organization in the world, hunting these horrifying entities, private military, etc. They shouldn't be having fun time games because they hold reality in their palms.

1) I agree, but I think there's far worse stuff that needs more complaining than an obscure +20 article from a year ago. I find it hard to believe anyone would know what you're talking about if you mention its number.
2) Don't see how, frankly. It doesn't particularly break the rules of the universe or is hard to believe within its context, so the only reason it could break your suspension of disbelief is if you're assmad about politics lol.
4) I don't get this. In-squad banter doesn't mean they're taking their job less seriously -- it's just stress relief and helps keep group cohesion. Well-trained MST members would know to drop it the second shit goes wrong anyway.

Ok, I'm 2xing here to point out something to certain posters, you guys need to understand most of us were around for this stuff in the beginning.

Yeah so was I.

but you're probably right, some hulking bundle of testosterone punching anomalies in the face before getting eaten sure will ponder if he was born into the right body in the meantime.

also "it's just x, who cares" is a poor excuse. well, it's just some shitty entries, who cares? rest is good and makes up for it, right?
it's a symptom of a bigger issue, if you suck writing levity and a grounded scenario, you fucking failed. I don't need "super serious no fun allowed" constantly, but there's a time and place for that, just as there is for gender pronouns however you want to use it.

Not everyone will agree with me here, but I think of gender dysphoria as akin to mental illness -- can happen to just about anyone for whatever reason. This sort of condition doesn't discriminate if you're a 150cm tall twink or a clone of Arnold Schwarzenegger

Agreed on the latter point.

there's also a big difference between r&r and being on the job. if I want quips and lolsorandum completely missing the tone I might as well watch capeshit.

In-squad banter doesn't necessarily mean lolrandom, but unfortunately a lot of SCP logs fall in the latter.

If it doesn’t matter to the story, why even include it? (I mean, it’s a rhetorical question, we all know why). If it’s important enough for you to put in, then it’s important enough for me to complain about as stupid and out of place. Only Twitter-obsessed weirdos care so much about fucking pronouns to bring them up when they don’t matter, normal people don’t talk like that.

Chekhov's Gun isn't an absolute. You can add all sorts of shit that isn't directly relevant to the story at hand to provide character or worldbuilding -- in my opinion, this is more an issue of "it's directly telling me what the author believes, with which I disagree, thus taking me out of the story", which is a problem with our perception of politics in general rather than the writing itself. Having weird pronuns should be treated with indifference by the folk who disagree with weird pronouns, and vice versa for those that agree with weird pronouns.

 

[Commander X]

It's been a problem for awhile, I remember a few years ago there was an entry that was re-written because the initial transcripts of an MTF entering a strange facility where filled with the professionals involved talking in the sort of jokey, ironic fan-speak that you hear on the various Joss Whedon franchises, with a generous helping of the sort of faux-swears you hear from people who think words like "douchecanoe" and "fucktarded" are hilarious. Like, you had team members saying phrases like "Sweet Jesus H. Christ tapdancing in the motherfreaking moonlight, we've got a serious ass-screw of a situation here, Mission Control! And not one of the good kind of ass-screws!" I think there was enough criticism of this that it lead to it being rewritten, but this sort of talk is now apparently just fine for characters in regular entries.

 

[Pope Negro Joe the XIIIth]

Yeah I'll just put it this way, if the foundation was real life, they'd be terrible at being undercover, no one would actually work for them because it's a goddamn clusterfuck of nonsense, no one knows what's going on.

I was pretty much done wherever I got to the "No of course we don't kill the d class monthly, that's just a memetic anomaly!!!!11!" Just...you can't change certain things without changing the nature of the work. It dismantles the early work which I assume they want to do but most of the shit doesn't even fit into the setting, like it's starting to sound like a SJW hippie commune took over SCP.

And no, soldiers/professionals dealing with this kind of stuff would make extremely dark humor jokes to maintain sanity, not making fucking bad gag puns while they're trying to stay alive. I know it's fucking fiction but at least try to have it based on reality.

 

[Capsaicin Addict]

Has anyone brought up the tit blob monster that makes people regress into a babylike state and makes people compelled to suck on it? Because it's gross and I hate it.

The sexy doorknob was edited but this is still up. The absolute state of that website.

I always figured that one was inspired by Lovecraft's Shub-Niggurath, which wasn't exactly the same but was in a similar pattern.

Granted, Lovecraft did it better.

 

[UnsufficentBoobage]

Has anyone brought up the tit blob monster that makes people regress into a babylike state and makes people compelled to suck on it? Because it's gross and I hate it.

Do not worry, it is not forever, as it is being downvoted by people thinking that word "retarded" is a slur. Look at the discussion.