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Can we auto-redirect anyone who ever unironically uses 'libtard' or 'demonrat' to reddit.com?
Selecting a Despot for the Autism Thunderdome
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Anyone who is "obviously" anything is kinda a poor choice. That's the point. There's nothing wrong with having views and expressing them. The problem users are those who use their political alignment as a proxy for personality. Much of the bad take clan would be a bad (if not funny) choice. But a casually left wing user who expresses their views in a fairly non abrasive way would work just fine. Someone like @Kenya Jones or @snailslime would be acceptable.
As far as the slapfights go: they're entertaining but also encourage divisiveness. The number of people who absolutely fucking seethe whenever @Hollywood Hulk Hogan or @Muh Vagina enter a thread is just ridiculous. It should be kept to a minimum.
The pastadome, I think, should remain a containment zone for autistic slapfights. I've had it done to me before where I was slinging shit with another user and we both got threadbanned and our posts were moved to the pastadome so we could continue being spergs there.
That is a prime example of how I think this sort of thing should be handled.
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Most of us are. The issue is to be fair with everyone, no matter what party.partisanism - Wiktionary
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Definition of PARTISANISM
partisan spirit or conduct… See the full definitionwww.merriam-webster.com
You know, I'm something of a partisanist myself.
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Only Three Dollars
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Oh fine, I'll post.
I will go back to lurking now.
I'm not going to pretend I've read the entire thread, but I've seen a few ideas come up that I don't think will work. First, I don't think numerical thresholds on posting ability are going to help. These systems have been well-gamed every time they've been implemented. It will be no different here. Second, I've seen several requests for special forum functions to enable new timeout states or to better isolate problem users. I do not believe there is a programmatical solution to the human condition, and that implementing these solutions will only waste Josh's time.
I do have an idea I haven't seen yet, but first let me restate what I understand to be the problem.
(1) It is good that the forum has a place to talk about news. It bolsters community and improves the site.
(2) Unfortunately, posters in news threads tend to only post in news threads and do not interact with the wider community. This threatens to create a situation where portions of the site are against the others. This is bad.
(3) At its worst, Kiwifarms is a highly antagonistic forum. In current events threads this antagonism has a tendency to be directed inwards, to other forum members. This creates a caustic feedback effect that drives away reasonable people and is generally miserable.
(4) It is impossible to create a single set of rules that will work for every thread, let alone every contentious thread. If such a ruleset was formulated, no mod would implement it correctly.
(5) Because of the previous two points, recruiting and retaining staff is very difficult. It is hard to get someone to stare into hate all day, especially when they do not have clear instruction what to do, nor the power to do it.
Now, my solution. I do not believe this will require any coding work and stands a reasonable chance of addressing all points.
In my time lurking I have noticed that certain forum members are drawn to different threads. I have no stats, but I suspect the omni-poster is rather rare. The solution for caustic single-issue posters is to drive them off by removing their ability to post on their favorite topic. We accomplish this by deleting the topic. If Shitposter345 can't argue about circumcision today, and is really uninterested in any of the other content of the site, perhaps he will fuck off and the site will be better for it. Meanwhile, if he is a worthwhile contributor perhaps some time away from thinking about dicks will do him good.
Meanwhile, the solution for moderation is not a despot, but despots. Instead of asking a mod to do a bit of work over the whole of the site, I propose a mod be empowered to rule as they see fit over a single thread for a set amount of time, after which the thread is deleted and they are freed. If nothing else, I suspect the variety will be entertaining all on its own.
So, the full proposal:
(1) Remove all ability to create new threads in news and current events forums.
(2) Add a single thread for topic suggestions. No discussion, no argument. Just topics.
(3) Every week select five topics based on uniqueness and freshness.
(4) Find a forum member willing to moderate one topic for one week. By 'moderate' I mean 'rule over as a capricious god.'
(5) Mod creates the OP in which the specific torture of the week is explained or lied about, and then the children play.
(6) Add new topics if Things Happen midweek which can't be ignored.
(7) At week's end, archive the discussion if it is interesting or delete it if its about circumcision.
This should meet all goals. It gives community members a place to discuss rotating menu of topics. It provides a mechanism for topics to be forcefully excised when they become boring. I suspect it will be easier to recruit a mod for a very narrow engagement as opposed to an open-ended obligation. This will also serve as a proving ground for people who would be good site-wide mods. Above all else, it will periodically take away the discussions certain posters build their lives around. If they cannot enjoy the site without them, then the site would be better off if they spent their time elsewhere.
I do have an idea I haven't seen yet, but first let me restate what I understand to be the problem.
(1) It is good that the forum has a place to talk about news. It bolsters community and improves the site.
(2) Unfortunately, posters in news threads tend to only post in news threads and do not interact with the wider community. This threatens to create a situation where portions of the site are against the others. This is bad.
(3) At its worst, Kiwifarms is a highly antagonistic forum. In current events threads this antagonism has a tendency to be directed inwards, to other forum members. This creates a caustic feedback effect that drives away reasonable people and is generally miserable.
(4) It is impossible to create a single set of rules that will work for every thread, let alone every contentious thread. If such a ruleset was formulated, no mod would implement it correctly.
(5) Because of the previous two points, recruiting and retaining staff is very difficult. It is hard to get someone to stare into hate all day, especially when they do not have clear instruction what to do, nor the power to do it.
Now, my solution. I do not believe this will require any coding work and stands a reasonable chance of addressing all points.
In my time lurking I have noticed that certain forum members are drawn to different threads. I have no stats, but I suspect the omni-poster is rather rare. The solution for caustic single-issue posters is to drive them off by removing their ability to post on their favorite topic. We accomplish this by deleting the topic. If Shitposter345 can't argue about circumcision today, and is really uninterested in any of the other content of the site, perhaps he will fuck off and the site will be better for it. Meanwhile, if he is a worthwhile contributor perhaps some time away from thinking about dicks will do him good.
Meanwhile, the solution for moderation is not a despot, but despots. Instead of asking a mod to do a bit of work over the whole of the site, I propose a mod be empowered to rule as they see fit over a single thread for a set amount of time, after which the thread is deleted and they are freed. If nothing else, I suspect the variety will be entertaining all on its own.
So, the full proposal:
(1) Remove all ability to create new threads in news and current events forums.
(2) Add a single thread for topic suggestions. No discussion, no argument. Just topics.
(3) Every week select five topics based on uniqueness and freshness.
(4) Find a forum member willing to moderate one topic for one week. By 'moderate' I mean 'rule over as a capricious god.'
(5) Mod creates the OP in which the specific torture of the week is explained or lied about, and then the children play.
(6) Add new topics if Things Happen midweek which can't be ignored.
(7) At week's end, archive the discussion if it is interesting or delete it if its about circumcision.
This should meet all goals. It gives community members a place to discuss rotating menu of topics. It provides a mechanism for topics to be forcefully excised when they become boring. I suspect it will be easier to recruit a mod for a very narrow engagement as opposed to an open-ended obligation. This will also serve as a proving ground for people who would be good site-wide mods. Above all else, it will periodically take away the discussions certain posters build their lives around. If they cannot enjoy the site without them, then the site would be better off if they spent their time elsewhere.
I will go back to lurking now.
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Uh oh this is blatantly derailing the thread ban everyone from it now...partisanism - Wiktionary
Definition of PARTISANISM
partisan spirit or conduct… See the full definition
You know, I'm something of a partisanist myself.
The only thing your dumbass does is a-log people daddy null doesnt like or go into a thread, start some shit and start acting like a victim when you get inevitably kicked out
Fuck off
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The symbols are speaking to me, they're saying
Care to put your money where your mouth is, faggot?
2200 EST, 8/28/2021, 4210 Wolfetown Rd, Cherokee, NC 28719
Bring as many of your cowardly friends as you want; I'll go to prison, but all of you will go to the morgue.
Alright, I think you should be on that council of 5 now.
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With all the talk about how much of a cesspool A&H is, I probably wouldn't survive being a mod there, but I'm going to throw my own hat into the mix:
I) No bitching about stickers. Stickers are there to judge the quality of a post if you don't think you have anything to add or contribute. That's it. Mean stickers aren't worth getting riled up over and it isn't a reportable offense (unless you're being mass neg-rated across different threads IIRC). You will be mocked and most likely threadbanned if you complain about it. If you're worried about your precious reaction score being affected for whatever fucking reason, you should consider making your posts more valuable and worthwhile.
Pretty much all of this and one more: bring back the stickers. It's beating a dead horse at this point, I know, but here's one more rule:
I) No bitching about stickers. Stickers are there to judge the quality of a post if you don't think you have anything to add or contribute. That's it. Mean stickers aren't worth getting riled up over and it isn't a reportable offense (unless you're being mass neg-rated across different threads IIRC). You will be mocked and most likely threadbanned if you complain about it. If you're worried about your precious reaction score being affected for whatever fucking reason, you should consider making your posts more valuable and worthwhile.
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Yes.
In all seriousness a bit of off topic tangents are fine, there's nothing wrong with a topic bringing up some weird unrelated info now and then. It's when its 5 pages of parsnip trivia that we start to have a problem.
DumbDude42
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Just reinstate “lol calm down” to the top of every page
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This should be rule number 1 to begin with
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isn't that the entirety of the spiderman faggot thread in supporters? I think it's mostly harmless as long as spergs don't go on crusades into enemy territory to defend their honor before m'lady; there are a good number of gentlemans' agreements (like between the TDS and TES threads, say) that mostly serve to keep the peace. But then, those are both in 'communities' rather than the dome
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I'm a fountain of new ideas so I have a new one.
Remember the giant moon from 2020?
Set it up so that if a user gets warned x amount of times it triggers the moon on their screen and every following shitty post they make just makes the moon get bigger until it just blots out the last semblance of usability for them for Y amount of time.
Most of the problem users in A&H that null refers to probably aren't savvy enough to just disable browser scripts etc so you'd filter a lot of people through rage quitting that way
Remember the giant moon from 2020?
Set it up so that if a user gets warned x amount of times it triggers the moon on their screen and every following shitty post they make just makes the moon get bigger until it just blots out the last semblance of usability for them for Y amount of time.
Most of the problem users in A&H that null refers to probably aren't savvy enough to just disable browser scripts etc so you'd filter a lot of people through rage quitting that way
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If someone gets a little too uppity, they should get like a 5 hour ban where they are redirected to a page that just plays this on a loop:
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And it was rude. I should have been more constructive and I'm sorry.
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You can have my "moonbat" when you pry it from my cold dead keyboard
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Fedposting, baiting other users or just autistic shitting up a thread => 1 month ban for first time offense.
Do it again and it is permanent.
Unless your registration data is post 2020. Then every infraction is automatic permaban.
You have to wield an iron fist and crack some eggs. Then the rest will fall in line.
EDIT:
Bannable offences:
1, fedposting
2, tiresome sperging about the jews or the new world order
3, obvious schizo shit
4, baiting other users or hostility aggainst other users
5, retarded conspiracy theory shit about covid/vaccines/5g/bill-gates
6, shitting up a thread with one-line nonsense off-topic shit
First offence: 1 month ban from the site
Second offence: permanent ban.
@Null I am ready and willing to swing the banhammer to protect the innocence of the site and cleanse it of the filth.
I promise to ban everyone I disagree with and use the powers for my own personal gain.
Do it again and it is permanent.
Unless your registration data is post 2020. Then every infraction is automatic permaban.
You have to wield an iron fist and crack some eggs. Then the rest will fall in line.
EDIT:
Bannable offences:
1, fedposting
2, tiresome sperging about the jews or the new world order
3, obvious schizo shit
4, baiting other users or hostility aggainst other users
5, retarded conspiracy theory shit about covid/vaccines/5g/bill-gates
6, shitting up a thread with one-line nonsense off-topic shit
First offence: 1 month ban from the site
Second offence: permanent ban.
@Null I am ready and willing to swing the banhammer to protect the innocence of the site and cleanse it of the filth.
I promise to ban everyone I disagree with and use the powers for my own personal gain.
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