US Senate Votes to Allow FBI to Look at Your Web Browsing History Without a Warrant - “Stop having too much fun on the Internet”, the US government proclaims

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...t-your-web-browsing-history-without-a-warrant (a)

The US Senate has voted to give law enforcement agencies access to web browsing data without a warrant, dramatically expanding the government’s surveillance powers in the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic.

The power grab was led by Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell as part of a reauthorization of the Patriot Act, which gives federal agencies broad domestic surveillance powers. Sens. Ron Wyden (D-OR) and Steve Daines (R-MT) attempted to remove the expanded powers from the bill with a bipartisan amendment.

But in a shock upset, the privacy-preserving amendment fell short by a single vote after several senators who would have voted “Yes” failed to show up to the session, including Bernie Sanders. 9 Democratic senators also voted “No,” causing the amendment to fall short of the 60-vote threshold it needed to pass.

“The Patriot Act should be repealed in its entirety, set on fire and buried in the ground,” Evan Greer, the deputy director of Fight For The Future, told Motherboard. “It’s one of the worst laws passed in the last century, and there is zero evidence that the mass surveillance programs it enables have ever saved a single human life.”

The vote comes at a time when internet usage has skyrocketed, with tens of millions of Americans quarantined at home during the COVID-19 pandemic. Privacy advocates have warned for over a decade that allowing warrantless access to web search queries and browsing history allows law enforcement to easily crack down on activists, labor organizers, or anyone else the government deems a threat.

“Today the Senate made clear that the purpose of the PATRIOT Act is to spy on Americans, no warrants or due process necessary,” Dayton Young, director of product at Fight For the Future, told Motherboard. “Any lawmaker who votes to reauthorize the PATRIOT Act is voting against our constitutionally-protected freedoms, and there’s nothing patriotic about that.”

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This is some of the worst news I've heard today. Absolutely no one wants a fed to look through their computer, not a single person. Such a fucking mess.
 
As a matter of fact, I wouldn't be surprised if cursed to hell Tony Robbins and Harvey Weinstein are wanting to seed my browser history with creepy shit then tell the gov that they were "surveilling me " but the whole time browbeating me for sex. You told me you'd do that on my thread didnt you faggots?
Your post is admissible in court


Is that right Tony, Harvey, and Donny? And Mitch?

Baby, you're a little 'too close to the flame; for this discussion.

It's like bringing a gangstalking victim to a Carmax with all red cars and salesmen dressed like MIBs.
Maybe, sit this one out.
 
HAHAHAHAHAHA PEOPLE ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT THE FBI BEFORE THIS DIDN'T ALREADY WADE THROUGH THEIR BROWSING HISTORY AND ALL OF THEIR DEVICES STORAGE BEFORE THIS?! THE COMICALNESS OF THIS IS SO FUCKIN' ASTOUNDING RIGHT NOW! MISSION CONTROL TO MY SIDES, WE HAVE A SUCCESSFUL LAUNCH, MY SIDES ARE NOW IN ORBITNESS! "OMG IT'S JUST A CONSPIRACY THEORY LOLOLOL WOT R U A TERRORIST?!"

Excuse me for a moment while I gather myself in a professional well-behaved mannerness johnsonness ultimatum fuckercheek fuckerness faggotry jones saga of the whisp again.
 
HAHAHAHAHAHA PEOPLE ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT THE FBI BEFORE THIS DIDN'T ALREADY WADE THROUGH THEIR BROWSING HISTORY AND ALL OF THEIR DEVICES STORAGE BEFORE THIS?! THE COMICALNESS OF THIS IS SO FUCKIN' ASTOUNDING RIGHT NOW! MISSION CONTROL TO MY SIDES, WE HAVE A SUCCESSFUL LAUNCH, MY SIDES ARE NOW IN ORBITNESS! "OMG IT'S JUST A CONSPIRACY THEORY LOLOLOL WOT R U A TERRORIST?!"

Excuse me for a moment while I gather myself in a professional well-behaved mannerness johnsonness ultimatum fuckercheek fuckerness faggotry jones saga of the whisp again.

The difference is parallel construction no longer being needed. Like yeah everyone was being “tracked”, but could your local police access that info? Hell they barely shared that with other glowies unless they could parallel construct it.
 
but at this point I think the analogy is losing touch with the subject matter.
Not really, that just kinda shows you the whole "lesser evils" thing is a bunch of shit when two individuals are objectively bad, so you have to defend the least bad things about them. I'm not implying any particular situation, but this is common ideological practice.
 
Of course, the American citizen is expected to bend over and have all their info exposed to anybody that wants it because it makes people a lot of money and makes it easier to spy on you. The windfall of profits created by mass gathering data is one of the worst things to happen to the internet.
 
Of course, the American citizen is expected to bend over and have all their info exposed to anybody that wants it because it makes people a lot of money and makes it easier to spy on you. The windfall of profits created by mass gathering data is one of the worst things to happen to the internet.

I don't know enough to be certain, but wasn't it first Facebook and Google that both really exploited the collection of analytical data? I remember Facebook getting a ton of shit for it, setting a standard and taking it all the way to court, think the issue was that they did it before they explicitly outlined this data collecting in their terms and conditions. The end process might have been a settlement, I think it was money owed to the government. Only thing we all got out of it was that they had to include "we own your data and are collecting it, lmao try to stop us" in their terms and conditions. Which no one reads anyways.

I want to believe that this bending over is not something anyone would want, on both sides of the aisle. Liberals love to paint conservatives as the militant, surveillance loving types. And conservative like to believe that libs are in love with the idea of a nanny state. And while some of the screeching about pro-gun and welfare policies might give that impression, I find it is a very vocal minority who actually want extreme measures.

I don't think anyone but the lawmakers who voted on this thing wanted it. Maybe the FBI too, but your average American on both sides of the political spectrum dislike this, and that is the primary reason you haven't seen any mainstream articles bumping this on their front page. Because it is a common issue that can unite people, and right now they are all about selling news that has the purpose of dividing the nation further.

I think the most alarming thing to think about is what these politicians have seen that makes them believe we *need* this kind of mass surveillance. I like to believe that they aren't just doing it because they want to strip away freedoms that the country was founded on. I mean, some of them probably are into that shit because power corrupts and all that, but there are a good chunk of politicians on the federal level who are less morally corrupt than others. The ones that still have that innocence and naivety that they can make a difference, before they take the inevitable blackpill and turn into a Pelosi/McConnell type.

So what exactly did those guys see? Other than dollar bills - because yes, I'm sure a sizable portion of the swing votes were bought and paid for. The fact that this thing was so close, literally treading the line of the minimal amount of votes neede, kind of suggests that whoever was paying, bought what they needed and not a penny more. But I could be looking too deeply into things.

Despite what you may think about Bernie (and please note that I think he's a kook), he usually sticks to his guns. But seems like he took the easy way out without damaging his reputation. Just declined to vote altogether, which allowed this thing to pass. So what did guys like Bernie see that made them think this was necessary? Is there some crazy shit we don't know about?

When articles cite the whole "The Patriot Act has shown no evidence to have saved any American lives", I think we have to take into account that, if we narrowly avoided a dirty bomb in a place like NYC, I reallllly doubt the public would be allowed to know. Unless the process of thwarting such a plot was undeniably public. You don't want to start mass panic. Especially when tensions are this high.

What I'm saying is that we might have been saved a few times by the Patriot Act - and we may never know it. That might be why some of these politicians voted yes. They might be scared. But even then, who knows if the FBI just handed them some documents that said they stopped a terrorist incident, just because they want to expand their surveillance capabilities? This is the issue with these massive agencies - we take their word, and we have to believe it. Even if the incident never happened, or if they downplay it. They can do whatever they want because there really is no one overseeing and holding them accountable.

In today's age where media can be distributed at such a high volume, and anyone can write whatever they want, there's going to be more and more people who distrust the government. What are we supposed to think when all those government agencies that supposedly claimed proof that Russia was behind manipulating our election come out a few years later and say that they never made such a claim? We can't trust the government, nor the media in that case.

The older generation is slow to catch up on this, they want to follow and be told what to think because it is easier that way. It reminds them of when time were simpler. They believe that "back then" they could trust the media, and they want to still stay in that mindset. But as we look back more and more, we can see that it wasn't that the media was always accurate and bipartisan, it was that there was no one with a platform to dispute their claims.

But the younger folks? They were born into a world where CNN and FOX aren't the only news sources. They aren't even the best news sources.
 
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>Thinking that ISP's, tech corporations, social media, and the government weren't already doing this

When did you all get so optimistic?
What you said is a pretty open secret. Still don't want anyone having access to my private life.

Of course, the American citizen is expected to bend over and have all their info exposed to anybody that wants it because it makes people a lot of money and makes it easier to spy on you. The windfall of profits created by mass gathering data is one of the worst things to happen to the internet.
The rich and political class are except from this. They have a right to privacy. You don't. It's because they have influence and money. If the playing field is ever leveled, you'll see a massive increase in the number of privacy bills being passed.
 
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They were never the best news sources. Even the Wii's news app was a better news source.
At one point they were the best available. I say nothing about their quality as it has been for the last 5p years or so, just that there were not any alternatives available. Minus printed sources, but I'm referring mostly to tv because it was immensely popular at its inception. Because the internet is now a thing.
 
The difference is parallel construction no longer being needed. Like yeah everyone was being “tracked”, but could your local police access that info? Hell they barely shared that with other glowies unless they could parallel construct it.
And by making it legal, they make it permissable in court.

Without it being legal, sure the FBI can watch all your browsing history, but if they want to get you on something? Well, their basis for the warrant is going to be unlawfully gathered, making it a no go. All that data gathered, all the computing power needed to sift through it, and you were in a minefield of whether it was usable in court or if it would cost you a case on a technicality.

Now it's all permissible, and with a system that connects various departments and institutions, more likely to spring massive leaks. I cant see this blowing up at ALL......
 
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