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mindlessobserver said:
And we are still 6 hours away from landfall. This is just the warmup.

Fox News has managed to get a reporter in position to be offered up as a ritual sacrifice to the storm. As is tradition.
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Admittedly know nothing about hurricanes, what is the best way to protect yourself from them if evacuation isn't possible? I imagine an underground bunker, no? Although I suppose the flooding afterwards makes that even more dangerous.
 
If you can't evacuate, then the general advice is to run from the water and hide from the wind. Get away from the coast and from areas prone to flooding. Then hunker down in a concrete building with a well-attached roof. The designated shelters will usually be good enough for this - most deaths in tropical cyclones are from people who didn't or couldn't get out of their home when they were told to.

But when a storm reaches this strength, you can't guarantee anything.
 
Poonocchio said:
Admittedly know nothing about hurricanes, what is the best way to protect yourself from them if evacuation isn't possible? I imagine an underground bunker, no? Although I suppose the flooding afterwards makes that even more dangerous.
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This is a "no way out" scenario for Jamaicans. If they go to the coast the storm surge will kill you. If you go the mountains inland the mud slides will kill you. Or the flash flooding rivers. Really the only thing you can do is shelter in place and pray. Stay in the first floor. If it starts to flood go to the second floor. If that floods go to roof. If the roof starts to move out to sea, make your peace with God.

Incidentally the forecasters on Fox are saying they expect Kingston airport to be destroyed.
 
The last USAF recon plane has taken off from Curacao. There is also supposed to be a NOAA plane sampling Melissa but this mission has not started - not sure if it's because the plane is not airworthy or if they are waiting to make sure the mission captures the landfall.
 
some pictures of Melissa's insides

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Kinda depressing how the latter almost looks like stereotypical depictions of heaven, yet it's absolutely going to bring hell to Jamaica (and maybe Cuba, Barbados, the Bahamas, Turks and Caicos...)
 
Smyrna said:
not sure if it's because the plane is not airworthy or if they are waiting to make sure the mission captures the landfall.
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Kermit was tossed out of the storm yesterday but should be repaired by now. NOAA is likely waiting for the last minute to get readings on the final run up to land.
Poonocchio said:
Admittedly know nothing about hurricanes, what is the best way to protect yourself from them if evacuation isn't possible? I imagine an underground bunker, no? Although I suppose the flooding afterwards makes that even more dangerous.
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Underground will kill you with flooding. You need to be far enough inland to avoid drowning, far enough away from valleys, hills, and rivers to avoid floods and mudslides, and in a building sturdy enough to withstand the wind and whatever is in the wind. Unfortunately, this is such a monster storm that there is no safe place in Jamaica, only degrees of danger. Without exaggeration, there is not a single truly safe spot on that island.
 
Some looters spotted and one guy fucking sweeping.
Eta: Some more live feed here
 
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-2.67°C

I don't even have any words anymore.

ETA: We've got two recon planes airborne right now, one Air Force and our boys aboard the venerable Kermit T. Frog. Air Force is in the outer bands and Kermit is leaving Florida now.
 
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Hurricane Melissa Discussion Number 28
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL132025
500 AM EDT Tue Oct 28 2025

Melissa has a circular, 10-n-mi-wide eye surrounded by a symmetric ring of very intense convection with cloud tops colder than -80 deg C. Radar data from Jamaica suggests that a secondary outer eyewall may have formed, which could signal that an eyewall replacement cycle is underway. The last couple of overnight center fixes by the Air Force Hurricane Hunters revealed 700-mb height falls within the eye, and dropsonde data indicated the central pressure had fallen to around 901 mb. A standard reduction of the peak 700-mb flight-level winds from that mission (165 kt) supports an initial intensity of 150 kt. Conditions are deteriorating across Jamaica, where heavy rainfall and tropical storm conditions have spread across the island. NOAA and Air Force Hurricane Hunter aircraft are scheduled to investigate the hurricane again this morning.
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I'll be very curious if this enroute flight sees the pressure dip below 900.
 
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