Severe Weather outbreaks

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We’re having severe flooding in North Carolina. Another thing we have to deal with. My side of town was spared, but I know people who have lost a lot. This morning is just getting better and better!

Of course, we’ll be a blurb on the national news and be quickly forgotten. I know it’s not the Texas floods - thank the Lord - but we’ve already heard of potential deaths in north Orange County.
 
Luckily for those on the East Coast the next time we look it'll be on the other side of the ocean terrorizing France or some other place completely unexpected.

Looks like she's going to rain on my parade around Tuesday.

Edit to not double post: here's a cool video about last year's hurricane Beryl:

Edit the third: There was flash flooding in Texas overnight. 27 dead, still looking for 20 girls. Area flooded camp area: lots of RVs and summer camps in the area and full up because of the holiday, About 4 months of rain in 6 hours.
I'm going to PL but fuck it.

I was personally in Kerville from Thursday afternoon till Sunday afternoon.

The warning alert hit my phone at ~5am Friday the 4th.

I was thankfully literally on top of a hill at the time and was totally ok.

The water came down on a massive wave/drive and rose ~10+ feet in about 4 MINUTES.

The Guadalupe rose 25-30 feet in 45 minutes in total.

The water started rising fast before dawn and most of those killed were probably asleep when the water arrived.

That said, Warnings were ABSOLUTELY sent out via TV, radio and cell phone text/audio alerts on or before 5am.

Thing is, in Texas at least, the severe Weather warning text is the EXACT same as the annoying as hell Amber alerts and Silver alerts so many people mute them forever....
 
We’re having severe flooding in North Carolina. Another thing we have to deal with. My side of town was spared, but I know people who have lost a lot. This morning is just getting better and better!

Of course, we’ll be a blurb on the national news and be quickly forgotten. I know it’s not the Texas floods - thank the Lord - but we’ve already heard of potential deaths in north Orange County.
There has sadly been a few confirmed deaths from people who were stuck in their cars.

The Eno river hit a historic high:
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Thing is, in Texas at least, the severe Weather warning text is the EXACT same as the annoying as hell Amber alerts and Silver alerts so many people mute them forever....
They really need different tones for different things. The Army figured this shit out centuries ago. You can't use the same bugle call for "charge" that you would use for "retreat". Good way for everything to get fucked up, fast.

One would think the "You are about to fucking die nigga" alert would be more insistent then "Some kid 300 miles from you got abducted by their dad in a custody dispute."
 
They really need different tones for different things. The Army figured this shit out centuries ago. You can't use the same bugle call for "charge" that you would use for "retreat". Good way for everything to get fucked up, fast.

One would think the "You are about to fucking die nigga" alert would be more insistent then "Some kid 300 miles from you got abducted by their dad in a custody dispute."
Yeah... I agree but people would still mute them
 
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Yeah... I agree but people would still mute them
Well, the other problem with this is a lack of education at a very early age. Where I live, we don't call creeks "creeks". We call them "Runs". And we call them that because when the creek starts to run, you need too run.

But this is pretty much eldritch lore. It was never taught in school, it was just something my parents and friends mentioned. Then comes the day when you see that little trickle you jumped over in one leap as a kid transform into a 100 meter wide torrent carrying trees and rocks down it. Which is something I actually got to see.

These sort of events are rare but they are not uncommon. Much like how a house fire is rare but not uncommon. But like all water related disasters its not really talked about much. People can understand wind and fire disasters just fine. But for some reason there is an intellectual block when it comes to water disasters.

But water disasters are always the most catastrophic, and the lack of attention to the danger they pose often leads to mass casualty incidents like this.
 
Well, the other problem with this is a lack of education at a very early age. Where I live, we don't call creeks "creeks". We call them "Runs". And we call them that because when the creek starts to run, you need too run.

But this is pretty much eldritch lore. It was never taught in school, it was just something my parents and friends mentioned. Then comes the day when you see that little trickle you jumped over in one leap as a kid transform into a 100 meter wide torrent carrying trees and rocks down it. Which is something I actually got to see.

These sort of events are rare but they are not uncommon. Much like how a house fire is rare but not uncommon. But like all water related disasters its not really talked about much. People can understand wind and fire disasters just fine. But for some reason there is an intellectual block when it comes to water disasters.

But water disasters are always the most catastrophic, and the lack of attention to the danger they pose often leads to mass casualty incidents like this.
Yep

People have NO IDEA how strong currents are as most people have ZERO experience with running water outside of a sink and a shower or MAYBE a water park.

A foot of running water is extremely serious, more than two feet is deadly even to a vehicle.

That and the fact that the wall of water arrived before sunrise and it caught a massive amount of people as they were asleep.
 
More flooding around the country.

Silver iodide, when used improperly can be devastating and highly toxic

You know it's bad when the US says something is toxic
Does anyone know how wide reaching, "silver bulleting" can be? There's 0 reason why there should be all these floods and flood warnings.
I'm from Florida and I've never seen a flash flood as fast as what happened in Texas, it was appalling.
 
I'm from Florida and I've never seen a flash flood as fast as what happened in Texas, it was appalling.
Florida does not have the same topography or ground makeup as Texas to cause flash floods like that. Or like what happened during Helene in NC. Florida ground is very porous in general, so the water can percolate through to the aquifers. And because of the flatness, the water can quickly spread out, so it doesn't get funneled into valleys between hills to build up quickly.

Helene and Milton caused flooding in West-Central Florida more than had been seen in decades even beyond coastal storm surge, both through rainfall totals during the storm and then rivers cresting days after as the watersheds drained.
 
My not so schizo theory is that they're going to do opportune depopulations of dryer and more flat states like parts of Texas, Mississippi, etc.
 
So, this video showing a rescue of a woman who was swept 20 miles downstream.


Dramatic too be sure. But what is more interesting to me is the claim in the story that the man who saw the woman in the tree tried calling 911 first and could not get through because the emergency call center was overloaded. So he had to run down to the road and attempt to flag down police passing by instead.

This is actually something that is a recurring problem in major disaster areas. 911 call centers, especially for rural counties, get absolutely overwhelmed during a significant weather event. Everything from dumb retards calling in for bullshit to legitimate requests for assistance jam up a system that ordinarily may process a few dozen calls a day.

This is actually something FEMA can do that its not doing. Have a national 911 Call Center that can be stood up when a significant event is in progress that can have calls that would otherwise be blocked by the overloaded system redirected to them. Hell it could even be a permanent fixture, having blocked 911 calls redirected to them in all instances to keep them busy in the downtime.
 
Florida does not have the same topography or ground makeup as Texas to cause flash floods like that.
It can happen in the panhandle, but not so much the rest of Florida. You need elevation to get floodwaters really moving.

Tropical Storm Debby caused flash floods up there since it took the perfect path to inundate Georgia and their clayey soil upstream. Flooding in Florida can get bad but it's usually not the "holy shit the river just took my house" type of flooding.
 
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