Shakedown in Progress

[uncleShitHeel]

@Null - where is that sweet, sweet shit posting board. I'd like to be retarded in private. Not just in public.

 

[neger psykolog]

I guess my opinion on Disco is the opposite of most here. I think one of the problems is the megathreads. When I go there I'd rather see 5 new threads so I can get the gist of things quickly. I hate having to wade through 50 new pages of one megathread to see 5 new pieces of content. That's the same reason why the Greer thread is annoying and I wish he still had a sub forum.

That being said, Chris is pretty boring now and the real problem is shitposts.

Its a bit of a limitation with the nature of this forum I think. It may be that having a bigger emphasis on tags makes things easier.

But its definitely a problem but not one that necessarily has an easy solution.

If you do the reddit model where you hide low quality posts, then you create a hivemind environment.
If you allow everyone to make threads for anything, then it becomes impossible to navigate.

Its a balance/design thing.

 

[Cryin RN]

With regard to the Russell Greer thread specifically - I feel really guilty because it's my OP, and I had no idea he would cultivate such a weird, a-loggy following. I'm not willing to shit up the thread with public call-outs, but I'm willing to shut down speculation and point out unverifiable claims if it's not going to make the thread into a backseat modding circlejerk. IDK. Advise please. I want it to be better.

 

[Feline Darkmage]

I'm gonna stay on the course I have been modding on, focusing on Sisterwood and the Furries. Those two boards are rather rich in content and discussion. I think the users in both of those boards form cohesive groups and there isn't a lot of newfags who don't understand the point yet, such is the case in lolcows and CWC that tend to get spammed with garbo threads every so often.

Congrats to @yawning sneasel for his promotion. Moving up fast like Sanic Hedgehogs.

With regard to the Russell Greer thread specifically - I feel really guilty because it's my OP, and I had no idea he would cultivate such a weird, a-loggy following. I'm not willing to shit up the thread with public call-outs, but I'm willing to shut down speculation and point out unverifiable claims if it's not going to make the thread into a backseat modding circlejerk. IDK. Advise please. I want it to be better.

Yeah, just pointing out unverifiable shit would be okay imo. That's not really backseat moderating like calling out specific people would feel like.

 

[GS 281]

With regard to the Russell Greer thread specifically - I feel really guilty because it's my OP, and I had no idea he would cultivate such a weird, a-loggy following. I'm not willing to shit up the thread with public call-outs, but I'm willing to shut down speculation and point out unverifiable claims if it's not going to make the thread into a backseat modding circlejerk. IDK. Advise please. I want it to be better.

100% not your fault. Just report posts. thank you for bringing a five star cow to us, you can't help the audience.

 

[Can I get an Amen?]

I joined in June admittedly bc of Amberlynn...
Since then I’ve really enjoyed exploring. I hope you don’t get rid of CWC. I was so entertained and learned a lot from reading through it.
I think the way @Null handled the Amberlynn situation was great. I feel like things flow nicely in there and it’s organized in such a way that if people have questions about her history, it’s easy to look back at old threads. This cuts down on a lot of people asking things that were established months ago.
I learned how to read and write worthwhile content from just paying attention for a while. I was warned about some “newby” behavior and eventually experienced a paradigm shift.
I know I’m going on too much here but my point is I really enjoy KF. I find people are generally intelligent and funny. It’s not impossible for new people to “get it” with a little mod intervention and responses from others.

 

[sperginity]

I fell for some bait in the Greer thread because I'm a dumb noob, sorry y'all

I don't see why tumblr needs its own special subforum because they generate content on multiple social media networks like twitter, fb, and hipstergram. Half of them belong in the rat king as is and the rest can go into lolcow general.

Would they really go to rat king though?
I am not the only person who is confused about what goes in rat king, the link in the pinned post doesn't really spell out who qualifies. If it became a board for parasitic troons generally then yeah, the tumblr board would clear out most of the way.

 

[Elysian]

For what its worth, here are my thoughts on the cwc board:

The cwc board is basically its own stand-alone board in the sense that it attracts posters who come for chris and stay in that board. This makes it more likely to be a lawless cesspool because many of those posters aren't getting exposed to the general culture, but I don't think its a total lost cause.

1. I think public warnings should be used more often in that board. Not only does it help clarify what is good and bad posting, its just plain fun. Yes, this is what ratings are for, but the message gets muddled when all the raters are also re.tards. Another reason I support this idea is that I would imagine the cwc board has a high poster turn-over rate (new posters joining, then leaving within the month), making moderating by reports and post deletion less effective as an overall behavioral modification strategy.

2. One of the shittiest parts of the cwc board is searching through shitposts for content. I propose locked content threads for things like facebook and twitter updates that a few people have access to updating and all commentary regarding updates should go in a containment thread

3. In the cwc board especially, but maybe the whole board, should have a ban on threads created by brand new members. Maybe members should have to reach a certain amount of posts or days before they are allowed to start a new thread.

4. If you vote for me for mod I'll make sure the school starts Free Taco Tuesdays in the quad and I'll fight for more student parking.

I support the locked news thread idea. I know that Den of Angels does a similar thing but with dollfag autism instead of lolcow and it works well.

Also the Yanderedev thread is mostly just a circlejerk of newfag reddit users sperging about how he ain’t gonna finish his game and is 3edgy5me for the 1000th time and it’s kinda annoying. Goddamn I want news and programming gore not this circular discussion bullshit. I don’t check there often for this exact reason.

I hope my thoughts were coherent, I’m drunk atm lol

 

[MG 620]

You should just shut down the forum

Nice try Vordrak!

 

[Feline Darkmage]

I am not the only person who is confused about what goes in rat king, the link in the pinned post doesn't really spell out who qualifies.

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/rat-king-general.19686/page-10#post-1681832

sorry about that, I need to update links because some parts of the general were split into their own threads and I haven't updated the links in that OP yet.

 

[Cilleystring]

With regard to the Russell Greer thread specifically - I feel really guilty because it's my OP, and I had no idea he would cultivate such a weird, a-loggy following. I'm not willing to shit up the thread with public call-outs, but I'm willing to shut down speculation and point out unverifiable claims if it's not going to make the thread into a backseat modding circlejerk. IDK. Advise please. I want it to be better.

Haha don't feel guilty friend. It's not your fault half of us on there are idiots. Someone earlier in this thread mentioned a content vs comment filter. I feel this would be good for making the thread readable for people, though I'm not sure how difficult this is to implement. Another issue (besides all the repeat jokes and comments) is Russell edits posts constantly. His post from earlier today had 18 edits when I last checked. So we also get a lot of repeat posts of very similar content, and all the comments that come after it. I do agree though that there is a lot of sifting through meaningless posts to get to new updates. I've been guilty of contributing to this in the past and will try to tone it down

 

[Done]

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/rat-king-general.19686/page-10#post-1681832

sorry about that, I need to update links because some parts of the general were split into their own threads and I haven't updated the links in that OP yet.

I suggest that this post be spun off into a stickied thread titled "What Makes a Rat King?" or something similar..

 

[Dollars2010]

Thank you @Null for gracing me with shell access. I'll put this power to good use. Praise Dear Leader.

 

[Peace and Harmony]

Thank you @Null for gracing me with shell access. I'll put this power to good use. Praise Dear Leader.

Corgi power corrupts corgily

 

[Pony Horn]

Since this has become a suggestion thread: maybe the mods could make it a point to let users know why they were threadbanned.

For example, a friend of mine recently received a threadban and while he's fairly sure why it happened he's not 100% certain because he wasn't told why he was banned. So he's been left wondering if he's bringing bad posting habits into other threads. I guess he can't be the only person in that position.

Obviously an explanation isn't needed if someone has been chainposting in allcaps for 3 pages but in a lot of cases it's helpful.

 

[RADICALGOBLIN]

Shakedown, 1979.

All these threads make me want to die.

Furfags who want to beat their meat

To the worst of things.

 

[Sammy]

Be the change you want to see, faggot.

Board Tzars
Lolcows - ???
Lolcow General - ???

Color coded: Green is what the board needs to be (not 'good' since 'good' is not what I'm looking for), orange is problemed, red is shit, purple is idk.

Essentially, the supervisors for a board should both be able to prune shitposting and stimulate discussion, as well as report serious systemic problems upwards. The DSP and BP supervisors do this perfectly. I only occasionally read threads from those boards but I get a general sense of how they're doing because people actually tell me.

Can you tell us a bit of what problems you see or hear that are going on with Lolcow and (what you roughly know, since its technically a pinkish idk) with Lolcow General? What would you see changed specifically pertaining to those boards apart from what you've already specified?

Be the change you want to see, faggot.

The CWC board is probably the one in the worst shape and I don't know what there is to do with it. Stricter moderation isn't going to fix the CWC board because Chris himself has become boring, but if I ever see someone joining the forum to advertise their storefront of shit they bought from chris to resell at a higher price, I am absolutely going to lose my shit.

The "Golden Age" of Chris always seemed to be wacky, zany actions and updates, alongside someone creating stuff. As you mentioned in a later post I'm too lazy to repost here (go find it and read it), people always had some sort of unique viewpoint to bring to any Chris discussion, typically from some position of expertise. It also had a lot of custom content created by others in a weird, pseudo fandom position.

People weren't just bitching or moaning or discussing the comings and goings of Chris, they were also actively making things, albeit with a slice of mockery. Liquid Chris was just making dumb videos because he thought Chris' videos were funny. Alec Benson Leary was just drawing a comic as a joke. Photoshop doodles of goofy interpretations were being made consistently.

I feel the site overall is missing that, but particularly the Chris forum, since there used to be so much before, when animators like Spazkid were cutting their teeth on doofy reimaginings of Chris' comics. At least from my own experience, the most fun, interesting part of any cow is what its observers create. Art is a measurement of society's success after all.

Now that's not to say that spirit of creation from observers of Chris is wholly gone - after all, Blank and Trickie today make some of the best fan comics Sonichu has ever seen in its 10 years of exposure - Trickie's comics are even getting ripped off by Chris hisherself. But its relegated to subforums and other locations rather than brought to the forefront.

The current format of Chris' forum works well for a highly active subject who produces new content regularly. It started that way because, of course, there was something new from patient zero every week. But with a more dormant Chris, the works and makings of the community should be brought to the forefront. If you want to kick start that kind of community, host some weekly photoshop contest or something. Maybe once a week, make a "This Week in Christory" post where some video or topic from 2011 gets pulled out and we discuss it again, maybe Marvin or someone else involved talks a little more candidly about what happened since they're pretty "cats out of the bag we influenced heavily a lot of the stuff Chris said in those days." Lock it after a week, roll onto the next subject next week. I know a lot of people are fucking tired of CWC documentaries but those aren't going anywhere either, so maybe dig into those more critically than "lol another one - its shit."

TL;DR: Turn the Chris forum into one of those hippie art community jam things as an experiment and see if the community doesn't improve from whiny edgelord babies rehashing old terminology without context and shitting up the place.

 

[GS 281]

Not to start anything but why do my posts get deleted when I offer to help, but other people’s don’t? Just a question, is all.

I mentioned a few pages back that I would be deleting all posts offering to take staff and supervision positions because it was just creating a lot of discussion in a thread that was for another purpose. It isn't anything against you.

 

[Smutley]

tl;dr this thread

"Here's a heads up about what I'm planning to do with this place to make it better"

"Oh neat, but instead of that let me tell you how I feel / nominate myself for something I wasn't asked to do"

 

[Funnybone]

tl;dr this thread

"Here's a heads up about what I'm planning to do with this place to make it better"

"Oh neat, but instead of that let me tell you how I feel / nominate myself for something I wasn't asked to do"

So basically...