Megathread Share with the class: unhinged troons you've known

[Stan]

There was this one kid, let’s call him Dave. Dave was a first year in college when I was a junior. He started out really popular - he had a Louisiana accent, pretty olive skin, big eyes, and curly black hair that had people comparing him to Prince. He was in theater and easily scored coveted roles despite being a first year. Being a male, handsome, and charismatic helped.

Unfortunately, he started to troon out within weeks of arriving at school. He tried to date chicks at first (they were throwing themselves at him) but rumor had it he couldn’t perform, and some girls thought he might be gay. By October he was committed to a trans identity and actively seeking out girl clothes, choosing a new name (let’s say it’s “Dahlia”) and doing baby troon shit. By winter he was doing the RP 24/7 and it was taboo to call him by the old name.

I remember having a conversation with him in the dining hall about HRT and him being devastated that it wouldn’t make his voice higher pitched - that he would need to do vocal training. I wasn’t even trying to upset him I was just an over eager baby med fag explaining what the hormones can and cannot do.

His academic course during that time was rocky, mostly because of all the time he spent wrapped up in inner turmoil about transition.

About two years after I graduated some friends invited me to the Whitney and an izakaya for lunch; and who should attend but Dahlia. He had scraped through with a degree and when I saw him he was 2 weeks post bottom surgery. Poor thing was walking like an old grandma. Had to stop a lot and was wincing a lot and didn’t eat much at lunch. He said he was happy about the surgery but having problems with his family. I left feeling like “damn Dave has had a really rough patch since he transitioned.”

About four years after that I caught up with a girlfriend who had seen him recently and said Dahlia was going off the deep end. He now had schizotypal disorder and had thrown himself into Orthodox Judaism, which was making him more miserable because the Orthodox have zero patience for troons. (According to them, Dahlia’s a mutilated man.) he was now observing all these female Jewish customs, covered his hair with a wrap, avoided hanging out with men unless it was a date to try on marriage… it was just, wow. I had ploished out from this same track because my love for Jews wasn’t enough to get me to bridge the sexist nonsense and “customs” that govern their lives.

Dahlia otoh had gotten so fervent in his religious study that he would try to feel the Hebrew characters in scripture with his fingers believing each one was holiness. It would have been inspiring if he didn’t sound so miserable doing it. My GF’s opinion is this wouldn’t last long and Dahlie would burn out and latch onto some new identity to absorb.

I don’t know what happened to Dahlia. I suppose I could look him up, see if he still posts on Facebook.

 

[Double Taps]

I knew a guy from school, well the whole school knew this guy because he had a really promising future. Was top of his classes, extremely bright guy in mathematics and engineering, but half way through his last term, a switch flipped and he started showing up in dresses and his hair done like a woman. People thought he lost a bet or something at first and he was taking it well for awhile. Students caught on that he was actually being serious because his new female name was registered to the data base with the same last name. Eventually he joined the 41%, cant remember if it was posted online or in a newspaper.

He was like 6.1'', super lanky, not an ugly guy at all, just a little nerdy looking, but was never going to pass as a woman. He was a ginger though, so that might have had something to do with it. Super unfortunate he turned out that way though.

 

[Ten Different Dudes]

I've known a number of trans people throughout. Most aren't that notable, but one stands out as the worst person I've known online. Apologies if it is too much of a powerlevel.

I was a teenager who was super into the visual novel series "Danganronpa." I enjoyed the series and wanted to talk about the characters, so I gradually became active on the subreddit r/danganronpa and an associated subreddit. I believe I was a freshman in highschool at the time, but I was sixteen years old at the latest. In those days, there were popular users who would often post and were seen as intelligent (often sharing analysis of arcs/characters), so the part of the community I found myself in was rather close. Looking back, it was pretty pretentious and circlejerkish. There was an event called Danganronpa Rankdown or something, where a bunch of the aforementioned users would rank all the characters based on writing. They were active in the server I'll describe.

The server itself wasn't safe for children at all. I was about sixteen, and there were others close to my age or younger, and there were DEFINETLY people significantly older than me. There was a NSFL/NSFW portion of the server. Sure, it had the obligatory "don't click if you're not 18" section, but no moderator cared. Therefore, a bunch of teenagers were exposed to fetish/porn. I remember there being discussions on some degenerate hentai as well (again, in the open server, between kids and adults). There were basically danganronpa fan comics where the protagonist gets topped by Mikan/Tenko who has a giant dick. There was also a user on r/danganronpa who would post cropped porn to the subreddit, including incest/loli. The reason why I'm setting this up is because you need to understand how unsafe/degenerate this server was.

Anyway, back on topic. There was one, possible two degen MTFs on the server. Back then, I had little to no idea about transgenderism, so I didn't think too hard about the supposed gender of anyone I was around. The first 'possible' MTF might've actually been a woman, but they were really schizo (tw ableism). They literally thought they were Junko Enoshima, the antagonist from the Danganronpa series. The reason why I think they might've been MTF is because for some time they would overshare and say that they've been lactating, despite not being pregnant. At the time, I thought it was some weird hormone imbalance, but with hindsight it might've been an AGP larp, especially since they also thought they were Junko. Ultimately, they weren't as bad as the next guy, and I hope they eventually got help.

The next guy is a sick freak. He was the first trans person I've ever known. In many ways, he was the archetypical teenaged AGP. A skinny nerdy male with long blonde hair. He was a zoophile and was open about it. There would be arguments, and he'd post cope about how animals have 'signs' that they show humans that they consent or something. It wouldn't have been so disturbing if he didn't own a dog. These days, he's apparently into Hazbin Hotel and I haven't interacted with him (or anyone in that space) in years.

I was lucky, mostly anyway. I was too wary of strangers to get too close or entertain DMs, but I didn't have the clarity to realize I was being exposed to things I shouldn't have. The internet isn't safe for kids. If I were more trusting and a bit more impressionable, I think I would've turned out a lot worse.

EDIT: I still remember his reddit username, and a cursory google search show he's active on youtube at least, but unfortunately nothing is interesting enough to share.

 

[Amerikaner Teddybär]

I actually had an experience about a few months ago.

I was heading back to my apartment after lunch when a friend of mine invited me for a tabletop game that was set to happen later that week. So the day arrives, I go up to the area where the game was about to occur waiting on 4 more people to come by. Out of those 4, 3 were trannies.

One of the trannies I actually had met before in the university's gaming club and was somewhat acquainted. However, I'll be focusing on the two others who were a couple since they're the ones that were the most interesting, for a lack of a better term, that night. They will be referred to as Chris and Jessie because I can't remember their names.

So we're playing the game, The Red Dragon Inn if any of you were curious, and then the tranny couple began to talk about how people in their family took their "transition". Some were okay with it, some weren't, so far nothing completely out of left field. One of them also bitched about how Chic-Fil-A was the only place open. (The building's food court was closed and the Chic-Fil-A was in a different area)

Then completely unprompted, Chris began to talk about some downright degenerate shit including a fucked-up fanfiction and what he and Jessie do in the bedroom. Keep in mind I literally just met these two and even the other tranny at the table was off-put by the commentary. So they dropped the conversation after what felt like an eternity of listening to them chat about shit best kept to yourself.

I then excused myself to use the bathroom. When I came back, both Chris and Jessie were gone. I thought to myself they'd left early although the game wasn't even close to being over. Then they returned with Jessie wearing a dress. Now Chris claimed he was trying to make Jessie "more comfortable" or something like that but I could tell Jessie was very much uncomfortable. Personally, I wouldn't be shocked if Chris groomed Jessie although they appeared similar in age.

Suffice to say, I haven't met those two since.

 

[Clyde Cash's Left Teste]

Despite his IRL job and his so-called "findom", he was always struggling to make rent. The last straw was when he was trying to sell his Switch AND INVITED A COMPLETE STRANGER INSIDE OUR HOUSE TO BUY IT WITHOUT TELLING ANY OF US BEFOREHAND. This was the last straw and the friend who owned the place gave him two weeks to pack up and GTFO. The rest of us were present not only to air out our grievances, but to act as witnesses in case he tried to lie later and claim that we sexually harassed him (LOL X 1000) or committed "transphobic violence" against him.

If this was a sitcom, it would have somehow ended up with the Complete Stranger being the replacement roommate.

 

[DSHK]

First one I ever saw was an autistic bipolar obese asian guy who dressed like a hooker in highschool that wanted to be a flight attendant.

 

[Lankybox Enjoyer]

I knew a guy from school, well the whole school knew this guy because he had a really promising future. Was top of his classes, extremely bright guy in mathematics and engineering, but half way through his last term, a switch flipped and he started showing up in dresses and his hair done like a woman. People thought he lost a bet or something at first and he was taking it well for awhile. Students caught on that he was actually being serious because his new female name was registered to the data base with the same last name. Eventually he joined the 41%, cant remember if it was posted online or in a newspaper.

Although troon behavior is often what causes people to peek and is the most apparent thing wrong with trannies, the most awful thing about them is the seemingly normal people being swept up into the lunacy and ending up depressed and suicidal. If you actually pay attention to the type of person who transitions and think about the logical conclusion of troon ideology, you realize that the people most targeted are the lonely and insecure. They are told that if they just get the medicine and surgeries they need and if society was just a bit more accepting, then they would finally feel comfortable in their skin. This often leads to doomerism which paves the path to hedonism from the belief that they can't change their life for the better which is further worsened when you remember that troons are typically very approving of prolonged social media and pornography use (the encouragement of social media use explains how troons are omniprescent online despite being a fraction of a percent of the total population).

Transgenders don't transition because they are perverts and narcisists, transistioning turns the vulnerable into perverts and narcisists. Because these already down on their luck people are encouraged to have terrible behavior and push away anyone who isn't a yes man, they self destruct themselves which leads to 41%ing.

I had a childhood friend who transistioned. He was one of the most social people I ever known. He was disruptive in class, he made friends easily, and he always had a friend nearby. In retrospect, he was clearly autistic and his parents could never tell him no, even when he was being a huge pain in the ass, but he was a funny guy and he clearly appreciated them. Over the pandemic, he transitioned and it's like he became a totally different person. He became shy, a shocking contrast to the way he was before. He was infamous for never shutting up, now he never talked. When he did, he put on a girl voice, but to put it frankly, he couldn't do it, his voice was to nasally so you could always tell he was a nerdy man. He didn't even change his fasion, he just grew out his hair and put on makeup, didn't even bother wearing female clothes. We don't talk much anymore.

 

[Clyde Cash's Left Teste]

pornography use (the encouragement of social media use explains how troons are omniprescent online despite being a fraction of a percent of the total population).

I never really got the appeal of porn. Unless if its being filmed in space that would be something to see but never seemed that interesting.

 

[vomitusdeux]

I was briefly friends with someone who turned into a pooner to become that one goth kid from south park

 

[Stan]

Oh I do have one other vignette from college but it wasn't of a person I knew that well.

There was this TiF girl who was distantly connected to our social clique. Let's call her "Alex." She was very genderqueer and would always talk about her gender fluidity and changing presentation. Tiresome tbh, bascially all it meant is "sometimes I dress feminine and other times not", well hey, I do that too but I'm not trying to craft an identity around doing that.

At the end of fall term I went to the Slonim seminar hall for a chamber music performance and I found these handouts Alex had made from her term paper presentation that she'd given earlier in the day to a group of ~15 other students. It was a flowchart of how she determined her gender identity and pronouns from day to day. I was kind of flabbergasted. "I've been busting my ass for Organic Chemistry term work in the lab and this person gets full credit for handing in this?! what the hell... why would you waste your time and tuition on this..."

 

[Maeis]

I have had to help multiple trans people not join the 41%. It's not really that hard, just tell them that life can't get better if you end it.

 

[SouthernBitchBob]

I've encountered plenty of troons online, but only two (plus some orbiters) in real life. One HSTS, one AGP. All of the shit Stinkditch mocks/is collectively horrified by? Completely confirmed by my small sample size. Madness, extreme emotional volatility, inappropriate hypersexuality, dressing like a teenage girl when he's 40, dramatic relationship-ending blowups at former friends for disproportional reasons, attention-seeking with both the intensity and skill of a four year old, whole former personality deleted and replaced with "I'M A TRANNY" as his entire reason for being...

 

[Martys_not_smarty]

There was one and although I knew them before shit went down I did see the slipperly slope that led to poonerdom. There was this girl a class below me in high school and she was known as the anime girl who wore Dragonball shirts and jill off to the two guys from Fushigi Yuugi (this is late 90's mind you), I didn't know jack shit about the series or anime in general but I'd just humor her and smile and nod, I moved away a year later didn't even think a second thought about her but going through some old papers and shit I found a little sketch she made for me and I had one of those Reservoir Dogs moments remembering her name and wasn't terribly hard to remember as it was very distinct and I was able to look her up turns out she was still doing the whole art thing but went from anime fanart to 3d poser.....of furries and centaurs.....of herm and futa furries and centaurs as well as a page of her doing amateur dominatrix and discussing her ftm "journey". Suffice to say I wasn't entirely shocked but the more I remembered her from school the more little shit started to click.

EDIT: yeah I know it's more about them being a degenerate than the actual trooning out but troons are a lot like downies, they can be from any part of the world of any race but they all have the same shit going on.

 

[Comp0site Specter]

Not necessarily the most insane but worth noting. Met a new "dude" at my job. Would bring up that she was trans and asexual under any given circumstance as if it was a running joke to circle back to, part of me has good reason to believe she was touched at some point, and that's the reason why she wanted to nuke her sexuality. It was to the point the other members of the alphabet mafia in the office got tired of talking with her.

 

[Eumeswil4427]

Current year + 2 was the first time I had to ever deal with one. There were two cases, one was clearly groomed by Tumblr, FtM, and proceeded to groom my other impressionable female friends into adopting LGBT identities. The other one went MtF overnight, I think it was over the summer. You wouldn't really get that vibe from the guy, he was a bit emo, but just overnight went trans and all his friends were taken aback. He was a class clown/sporty-ish type of guy too.

Nowadays I see a troon here or there, but it's mostly online.

 

[Bubble Ba'ath]

I am very lucky that the very few troons irl I have interacted with have been fine. Of course, 95% of them seem to be terminally online shut-ins with Cluster B disorders and those, of course, I have had the displeasure of crossing virtual paths with on numerous occasions.

I told KF (in the personal lolcow thread a few years ago) about my own top nominee for the most unhinged troon I ever knew before, so I will give an abridged version here. Its not someone I knew directly but more by proxy and yet it left such an impression.

Back in the early and mid 2010s I had some friends fall in with far left circles. Before the Anime Girl pfp Troon was a predictable and constant part of the online experience, these things lurked as more freakish but inevitable outliers of those communities. The one that really stands out to me went by the name (probably fake?) of Louise Argall. An Anglo university student who cultivated a large online following (a Rat King, you might say) for sardonic-yet-histrionic commentary always from behind an anime girl wearing an ushanka visage. Something about this person, even from a distance, set off huge warning bells in my head and avoided all contact with them as much as I could, yet there was enough of an extended web that there were always mutuals. People would tell me I should be friends with this thing, or that...she...was really smart etc. But the one or two times I had direct overlap it was an obvious horror show. I remember Louise (who was white) accusing me (non-white) of being a white supremacist because of some tiny difference of opinion. That kind of person.

Then the cancellations began. Every community this person was involved with devolved into "matriarchal purges" that ensured only troons would be in charge. People were publicly hounded and had baseless smear campaigns waged against them for not agreeing with every single culture war priority of "Louise". I heard stories that Louise would have Skype meetings where they sat in the dark asking other members for validation "Am I pretty?" and suicide baiting. These meetings were called supposedly to talk about theory, etc.

Then, at the height of the infamy, in the days just before peak cancel culture was about to take off...Louise ghosted the internet. Disappeared entirely. This was basically overnight and with the internet scrubbed of all the traces of their existence save a single (relatively even-keel) article. Imagine, having spent years terrorizing everyone for social clout on the internet to just ghost it all one day. Some say Louise An Hero'd, others that zxhe had been committed to a loony bin, and others that there was a far right reinvention of the schitzophrenia under a new name (but probably still behind an anime avatar). But deep down inside, everyone was relieved to see the end of it.

When I first posted about this person on KF a few years back a user actually private messaged me about it, claiming that Louise had been active on anime forums in the late 2000s. Zxhe had a reputation for joining non-porn anime forums and just posting depraved hentai all over the place until getting banned, then screaming oppression and transphobia when this happened. So it seems this person had just been a coomer who was then radicalized and turned to politics later.

 

[Nitro!]

Lucky to not know any personally. One time at the airport carousel waiting for my bag, obvious tranny (male) wearing a skirt and mask swaggered over to get his bag when it appeared. Greasy, lanky dude, you could smell him from yards away. Struggled to get his bag as it floated away from him on the belt, flailing around and losing grip. No one helped him. Funny shit.

 

[SnergenFlergen]

My girlfriend works in a small local coffee place and they recently hired a pooner. Somewhat long post, so I'll spoiler.

Spoiler: Pooner ramble

I'm on good terms with the café's manager through my partner. We get on well and have a lot of shared interests, so we hang out a fair bit in the local pubs and I help with their social media shit in exchange for the occasional free coffee. The place isn't some big chain like Starbucks, it's just a tiny family-run coffee shop/restaurant in the village I live in.

Recently when looking for new staff, the manager showed me a CV he'd received from someone who was obviously a pooner. I could tell immediately just by her name (which I won't share, but whatever you're imagining probably isn't too wide of the mark). I vehemently tried to steer him away from hiring her- I advised in the strongest possible terms against hiring "someone like that" (while keeping what I meant specifically deliberately vague, to avoid trouble). I think he assumed I just meant 19 year-old college kids, which is what the pooner is. The manager is in his mid-40s and has three young children, so I assume he is quite insulated from the tranny phenomenon.

He went ahead and hired her, in spite of my tacit warnings about hiring trannies and how they are always a recipe for trouble and drama.

Fast-forward to the pooner's first day on the job and she doesn't show up, with no phonecall or text to signal or explain her absence. Likewise on her second day and third. It eventually transpired that she'd been fucked up on booze and drugs the night before each shift, with the excuse being that her dog had died a few days before and that was how she was coping with it. I don't want to downplay the emotional impact of something like that (if we grant that it actually happened), but I also don't think it's asking too much to at least let your new employer know that you aren't able to come in and work your first fucking shift. It's also not an especially healthy way of dealing with shit like that.

Anyway the pooner eventually settled in and actually started showing up for work- though she apparently needn't have bothered, as she has zero work ethic and does next to nothing on shift. I have met her in person by this point. When viewed from behind, she is somewhat convincing as an overweight young man. Being a fat fuck is known to help trannies pass, due to fatness reducing both men and women to indistinguishable androgynous blobs by obscuring the more obvious physical sex traits. Her face and voice however, are immediately and unmistakably identifiable as female. She does the whole "hey dood/man" thing with me when I go in to order my coffee, in that thoroughly inauthentic and cringe-inducing way that only a pooner can.

Fast-forward another week or so and I get some information about the pooner from my partner, who has by this point worked a few shifts with her. She is apparently in a 'polycule' with at least 4 other people- two of whom are a married couple in their mid-40's. Quite what business such a couple would have fucking around with a confused 19 year-old is anyone's guess, but all parties involved are technically adults so make of that what you will. I personally think it's fucking grotesque. She also apparently has at least one STI, that she is unfortunately not shy about discussing.

Anyway she keeps working at the café, keeps missing shifts at least once a week and not telling anyone beforehand. She comes up with all sorts of excuses for this, the most memorable of which being when she said she had suffered a miscarriage the night before. I don't know how true that is, but apparently she hadn't consulted with a doctor/any other medical professional about it before, during or after so your guess is as good as mine. Personally I think she made the whole thing up for attention, but that may be just be me being uncharitable. I suspect not, as she's been caught in other lies prior to this. Can women taking testosterone (which she is) even get pregnant in the first place?

Back in the present, the manager's understandably getting pretty fucking sick of this by now and is looking to replace her. I don't imagine she'll take it well and I'm anticipating accusations of transphobia being levelled against the café when he finally pulls the trigger. Hopefully she doesn't cause too much damage (reputational or physical) to the place and/or cause it to shut down- it's a small independent business and already not doing so great financially. If the worst happens, at least I get to say "I told you so".

The tl;dr is that this person is literally the first and (so far) only pooner that I've ever encountered in the flesh and had any sort of sustained interaction with and she's a total fucking trainwreck of a human being. A walking disaster. From what I gather, she must have pooned out not long after she turned 10. She's in a polycule with people more than twice her age, she's a fatass, she's having miscarriages (or more likely pretending to), she's doing drugs and all sorts of other shit and she struggles to consistently work a job in a tiny village café (which should be the easiest fucking job in the world that even a toddler could do). Her boss is currently gearing up to give her her marching orders and there's no telling how badly that's going to go down.

My mind just boggles at what could lead someone down the path she's trodden that caused her to become that fucked up so young. My guess is sexual abuse at an early age, followed by chronic internet addiction. It usually is. Whatever the reason, if she makes it to her 25th birthday at this rate I'll be fucking astonished.

 

[Spangled Drongo]

Have unfortunately known quite a few troons and enbies considering the gender trend is alive and well amongst millennials and zoomers here, but have had to interact with one in particular recently and he's giving me the major creeps. I'm a regular at a local game store and have unfortunately been having to deal with this smelly neckbeard in my TTRPG group who dresses flamboyantly in steampunk inspired clothes and goes by they/them pronouns, but you wouldn't think just by looking at him that he's anything but an obese hipster because he doesn't even shave the beard, and in fact goes out of the way to style his moustache into a handlebar. The other day he was yapping on like "my character may be a man but I'm not, I have no gender" and it took some willpower for me to not respond "then why don't you put in some more effort to look less masculine? You literally have facial hair, bro" He also has an obsession with his British heritage which sadly isn't uncommon amongst nerds around these parts and he's forever quoting Monty Python and Doctor Who. He's nasty all around and I'm convinced the non binary thing is part autism, part a way to get closer to the women he interacts with. According to his Facebook he used to be a brony too, zero surprises there.

I know game stores are infamous for these sorts but the guys who work there are chill and most of the other regulars are alright too, it's just him in particular, and unfortunately all the friends I used to game with have either moved away or I've lost contact with them so my options are few.

 

[thx1138]

I can honestly say the "closest" interaction was when JDR showed up on the Portal of Evil forums and tried to "Greetings, fellow kids" with us back in 2002-2003. Back then we could look at a tranny and say "Dude what the fuck is your problem."

For those who don't know, JDR got lucky with a website back in the mid 1990s called "Happy Puppy" and sold it for a chunk of change, which he then spent on anime girl figurines and vintage video games. He also had a husband, some jailhouse fag named Stephen, whom he would regularly humiliate. JDR had a fantasy about a computer game that looked like an 8-bit jrpg and had a borderline AI level of player interactivity, but because his boyfriend/husband Stephen wouldn't write it she'd bitch incessantly at him, debase him, and generally treat him like garbage in the public sphere. They had a shared it-friend they added and became a throuple which we called the Family Lump.

Aside, I think it's funny that with the atrocity tourism that was PoE we could point out these early trannies as obviously insane because my God who'd castrate themselves and then try to claim a pussy made out of a flap of intestine was a vagina? but now Chet Falizek has fully gone radleft and supports that kind of thing. Maybe it's true that TF2 turns you into a troon or troon supporter...!