Shitty Alternate History Thread - If only the Romans had AK-47's they would've survived...

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The one piece of credit I'll give Ian and the AH Jannies is that they're at least somewhat consistent in banning people who call for violence.

Also, I'm going to add my own gripe here. Why is the ASB subforum so fucking clogged with garbage? It's literally a subforum where basically anything goes, and 99% of it is ISOT or SI garbage. I'm genuinely surprised at how few people are writing something along the lines of Turtledove's Crosstime Traffic or Race series considering how influential the guy is on AH. Instead it's just ISOT and SI as far as the eye can see, with the sprinkling of a few sub-standard stories in between. Reach for the Skies is the best story on the subforum, and is peak disappointment in my eyes. A brilliant idea that's let down by the author adding in the same "strong woman" archetype that really drags down the story IMO.
 
Not just Strong Whamen, but also some Reconstruction fetishism.

Another issue with the ISOTs is how often they just devolve into progressive circlejerk about how good and moral and superior future people are which have made any ISOTs of modern day or even post 2010 areas to the past complete and total crapshoots.
 
Not just Strong Whamen, but also some Reconstruction fetishism.

Another issue with the ISOTs is how often they just devolve into progressive circlejerk about how good and moral and superior future people are which have made any ISOTs of modern day or even post 2010 areas to the past complete and total crapshoots.
Most of the ISOT stories that I've read don't involve progressive politics, but instead involve a nation being transferred to another world and having to fight the existing powers of said world. 99.9% of them go the same way, modern nation is sent to another world, encounters generic evil empire #63444583, fight generic evil empire #63444583 and win.

There may be plenty of action and combat, but it's a forgone conclusion as you already can tell how each battle ends. Anything the antagonist nation does is instantly countered and the battle quickly becomes a one sided victory in favor of the modern nation, which almost always takes zero casualties. You can't even make the antagonists be smart, they have to be as cartoonishly over the top evil and incompetent as possible.

It's even worse when it's done as a method to get people to join the military of the transferred nation, just look at GATE, the author intended for it to be a recruiting tool for the JSDF.
Wow! Your country has such a strong military it can easily beat down on a enemy that is at least a few hundred years less advanced than you! Impressive!

Now I could keep sperging about how much I dislike most ISOT stories but I think you can get the idea. Honestly i'm not even Mad at the Internet, i'm Disappointed at the Internet. The concept of a relatively advanced nation being transferred to another world where it has to find footing against internal and external threats sounds like a neat idea, sadly it get's wasted on absolutely mediocre stories like GATE and Nihonkoku Shoukan.
 
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You have read some of the less political ISOTs. The ones I am talking about are the type that has become more common on AH and similar.

1632 is one of the gold standards for ISOTs especially because it tries and avoid that. They straight up spell it on the book: We can crack any army in the world at the moment, but we will run out of supplies and be conquered if we try doing that. It works out because Grantville gears down and makes peace with the local Empire to survive and thrive.

The ones I am talking about are more like A Golden Island to the West. I mentioned it back a few pages ago, it has become THE trend setter for garbage ISOTs that are simple circlejerks.
 
You have read some of the less political ISOTs. The ones I am talking about are the type that has become more common on AH and similar.

1632 is one of the gold standards for ISOTs especially because it tries and avoid that. They straight up spell it on the book: We can crack any army in the world at the moment, but we will run out of supplies and be conquered if we try doing that. It works out because Grantville gears down and makes peace with the local Empire to survive and thrive.

The ones I am talking about are more like A Golden Island to the West. I mentioned it back a few pages ago, it has become THE trend setter for garbage ISOTs that are simple circlejerks.
And not only that, but the Europeans DO NOT just automatically adopt all American thinking. Some of it they do, some of it they adopt through the Committees of Correspondence spreading, but uptime thought morphs as it interacts with early modern people. And the pool of uptimers is so tiny, they can't keep control of their own United States of Europe as it expands, not even 1% of the population.

1632 was very thoughtfully written because Eric Flint had a deep amount of respect for both the United States (despite, or perhaps because of, being an old school labor union socialist) and the early modern world, and by making it into a shared universe he stopped himself from dominating it with one view. Characters like Admiral Simpson (muh conservative military man) became a lot deeper because other authors were able to add different perspective on them. It is a unique masterpiece of worldbuilding.
 
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Quoting, VERBATIM, from the Koran? Wow just wow! I literally can't even this is so islamophobic I am literally shaking!

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It is my DUTY to protect any hecking minorinos and people who might be attacked by the users of this here forum. I absolutely would do the same with a bible verse! I am a force of good and justice!

What a complete faggot this dude is amazing.
 
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Quoting, VERBATIM, from the Koran? Wow just wow! I literally can't even this is so islamophobic I am literally shaking!

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It is my DUTY to protect any hecking minorinos and people who might be attacked by the users of this here forum. I absolutely would do the same with a bible verse! I am a force of good and justice!

What a complete faggot this dude is amazing.
Hey...I thought he would be reasonable during the moment, but I suddenly had thoughts that this forum would be very left-leaning after I posted my response and expected my ban to come when he saw it.....I wasn't really surprised since I was basically painting everyone who worshipped it as evil and rather primitive to him...which is certainly true for those places and those who worship it elsewhere are probably unaware that they've effectively made a deal with the "Prophet" for life.
 
Just wanna pop in to say seeing Mechadogzilla chimp out on trans issues is as funny to me as the usual Stinkditch regulars are. He regularly admits he's a well-off white male in Massachusetts with a strong support network and yet acts just like Tony Reed in terms of twans genocide! Or twansmisogyny! Also when the pooner shot up a Christian school he immediately tried to throw pooners under the bus claiming it wasn't a TIM who shot the children but a TIF and to attack dudes in dresses like him was, you guessed it, bigotry!

Easily my least favoite person on the AH.com, and that's really saying something.
 
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Why is the ASB subforum so fucking clogged with garbage?
Because people like their powerfantasies playing out. That being said, maybe I should do that "Henry the Lion"-timeline in which the HRE heavily centralises in the same manner France did 200 odd years later.
 
So, I missed this until now (3 weeks later), but apparently Ian jannied Crazy Boris off the site. He's a great mapmaker, so his loss is pretty rough IMO.

Here's Boris' Deviantart post regarding the topic (Post | Archive). Apparently Ian has been sperging about how Israel is a white supremacist state and sperging at people who (rightfully) point out that Israel isn't a wignat state but an ethno-state. Boris apparently poked the tard and got banned for it. Anywho, Godspeed Boris, you will be missed. :semperfidelis:


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Because people like their powerfantasies playing out. That being said, maybe I should do that "Henry the Lion"-timeline in which the HRE heavily centralises in the same manner France did 200 odd years later.
You're absolutely right, I just wish for the love of all that's holy that someone would do something better!
 
You're absolutely right, I just wish for the love of all that's holy that someone would do something better!
General rule of thumb: if you want something well done, do it yourself. The problem here lies not so much with that, but the way ah.com has been mismanaged the past at least 7 years. Doing well means controversy and that'll lead to Coventry, one way or another.
 
General rule of thumb: if you want something well done, do it yourself. The problem here lies not so much with that, but the way ah.com has been mismanaged the past at least 7 years. Doing well means controversy and that'll lead to Coventry, one way or another.
If I knew website programming, I'd start my own AH forum and call it something like Coventry Forum, just to take the piss out of Calbear and Ian.
 
If I knew website programming, I'd start my own AH forum and call it something like Coventry Forum, just to take the piss out of Calbear and Ian.
That'd be a great thing to do, I think. AH needs a competitor, someone willing to load up on the people Ian and Calbear ban. Particularly the high quality stuff.
 
That'd be a great thing to do, I think. AH needs a competitor, someone willing to load up on the people Ian and Calbear ban. Particularly the high quality stuff.
I mean, I would fund the basic bitch website if there's some aspiring autist out there who wants to become the Alt-History Null. I got MIC money, and I've wasted more on less. Do you know a retard who'd be good for this?

EDIT: Fuck it, just acquired alternatehistory.forum. I would still prefer to be the website's sugar daddy than actual admin, but nevertheless something may happen.
 
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That'd be a great thing to do, I think. AH needs a competitor, someone willing to load up on the people Ian and Calbear ban. Particularly the high quality stuff.
The easiest way is just keeping the "no current politics rule" and not having a place for discussing current politics. You'd avert like 90% of the grief and be able to attract people across the political spectrum (although you'd have to ban pro-tankie/pro-Nazi shit too I suppose). Half of my posts on this site would get me a kick at minimum if I posted it in Political Chat there but I don't get banned since I stay out of there (except occasionally to screencap the stupid shit there).
 
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