Shitty Alternate History Thread - If only the Romans had AK-47's they would've survived...

[Curzon Dax-sama]

It didn't click for me until Lt. H. DuBois commented on it. It's the Yamamoto time travel one right? I remember seeing some of it because it sounded fascinating but I also remember not ever finding the full thing with subtitles. It's one of those animes to only ever get a limited release and little spread. Both a manga and a anime actually but I don't much enjoy manga, comics never much fit with me.

I know that it has Pearl Harbor be better with Yamamoto making a point to have the ambassadors deliver the declaration of war BEFORE the attack starts as part of his plans. I wonder if someone finally got around to putting the whole thing online with subtitles.

I also know it featured the I-400 which is pretty kino. The krauts really hog the limelight for superweapons in WW2 so it's nice to see other wacky projects from the war get featured. Submarine Aircraft Carriers. What a concept.

Aye, that is exactly it. And there is also very wacky stuff in it, e.g. the Japanese government striking a deal with Trotsky of all people so that he can rule a puppet state carved out of the eastern half of the USSR. Chandra Bose winds up in Nazi controlled Madagascar and joins a resistance movement to free the Jews from the concentration camp. One of the main characters visits Gandhi and tries to enroll him for the joint British-Japanese war effort against Germany. FDR dies of a heart attack after Oakland Ridge is bombed. Churchill goes to Japan to negoiate a secret peace deal. Hitler has Göring shot. Also, the Kongo and Nagato class ships fire fricking LASERS right out of DBZ.

Yeah, it's a fun wacky adventure ride and totally not a IJN-wank, trust me dudes, lmao.

 

[Skeletonized Cow]

I don't know why, but this fucking killed me.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

There's been a recent shitstorm on AH.com regarding some junk self-insert fic in the ASB section. According to longtime Hamas fanboy Ian the Admin and his jannies, a "part Japanese, part Chinese, part Indian" "woman" on AH.com who had posted several selfies and bikini pics of "herself" has been outed as an Indian man who stole the pics from Instagram. This comes after a drama flareup where "she" was accused of secretly being a Nazi because of some insistence that 19th Swiss people would want to be a part of Kaiserin Mary Sue's empire and several users warned or kicked as a result. The jannies state there were "mass reports" of this person by some offsite Discord in the days leading up to the ban.

Unfortunately, almost all of this content is in the sections of the site where you have to be logged in, so I don't think I can archive any of it without outing my account.

Spoiler: AH.com pajeet catfish drama

Here's his userpage where "she" catfishes horny AH.com coomers with "selfies" (pics of random Asian girls) and gets lots of hornyposting in return. Sad!

Ian der Fuhrer reminds a user of the obvious


AH.com jannies encouraging him to troon out



Apparently his story was AI generated lol. Not that it was ever worth reading unless you like "Mary Sue becomes German Empress" sort of trash like the male feminists at AH.com coom over.

Checking the userpage suggests that "she" has now jumped ship over to SpaceBattles.

 

[Skeletonized Cow]

AH.com jannies encouraging him to troon out

Goddamnit, I had never really seen Burton post shit like that. I thought he might have been the closest thing to a normal person among the ah.com moderator crew.

 

[The Taco Santo!]

Warday was a pretty fun one too, it's about a guy going through the USA a decade after a nuclear war in the late 80's and showing how things have changed.

That's a classic. As far as Nuclear War, try Arc Light. Most of Eric Harry's stuff is good. He's got one where China invades the US that's a lot of goofy fun. Spoiler alert, though, a main character is a girlboss stronk soldier who's just so much better at infantry soldiering than all the boys are.

 

[Mayor Cody Travers]

Anyone else enjoying the complete meltdown of Political Chat since Biden's debate fumbling last week leading into Chevron and Trump's immunity this one?

I've not seen them collapse into such in-fighting or several members finally calling others out on their shit in a long time. It's been popcorn-tier.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

That's a classic. As far as Nuclear War, try Arc Light. Most of Eric Harry's stuff is good. He's got one where China invades the US that's a lot of goofy fun. Spoiler alert, though, a main character is a girlboss stronk soldier who's just so much better at infantry soldiering than all the boys are.

I have read Arc Light it was pretty interesting. Sadly The Postman turned out to be quite underwhelming.

 

[The Taco Santo!]

I gave a copy of Arc Light to my father and he loved it, so that's a boomer thumbs up, I guess. There's completely unrealistic Alas Babylon, a real artifact of it's time that I still enjoy no matter how unrealistic it is. One Second After was good, so were the sequels, but the last one was pretty unrealistic.

 

[glue eater]

That's a real classic and pretty nice.

Turtledove's Worldwar series is pretty fun too. Warday was a pretty fun one too, it's about a guy going through the USA a decade after a nuclear war in the late 80's and showing how things have changed.

All Turtledove works qualify for shitty alt-his, right? He himself admitted that he doesn't understand battles, so the results are completely fictional in all his works. Besides, I am a raging autist, I need my althis firmly grounded in reality so it automatically makes me Turtledove a-log, since his works are 90% fiction.

I actually bought an alt-his book for the first time in my life called Valtakunta (the Reich). I normally wouldn't, but the author had worked in national archives and had access to tons of wartime material, so the work is almost entirely grounded in fact, all the quotes in book are real, they're just shuffled a bit. Point of divergence is Lord Halifax becomes PM instead of Churchill and makes peace with Germany after Brits are crushed in France. After-the-war section is quite short in the book, but it mirrors how Europe dealt with USSR in delicious way, Finland for example is still Finlandized, just in the opposite way, and fascist Hungary crushes an uprising in the 50s.

 

[Bloudwulf]

I actually bought an alt-his book for the first time in my life called Valtakunta (the Reich).

Valtakunta also has a website: valtakunta.eu
But most of the content there has been removed with the release of the book.

 

[glue eater]

Valtakunta also has a website: valtakunta.eu
But most of the content there has been removed with the release of the book.

The author wanted a more fact-based timeline, the original stretched into the aughts, so it was mostly fictional, the timeline of the book barely gets into the 50s. Rydman is actually a professional cartographer so his maps are autistically detailed (available on the website).

Also I'll bring this up just for the drama value: A Polish nationalist wank althis book Pact Ribbentrop-Beck where Poland agrees to join the Anti-Comintern Pact. Which so far isnt so fantastic, Hitler actually proposed this to the Poles. In this timeline Poles and Nazis destroy USSR, but then Poland backstabs Nazis and occupies Eastern Europe and signs peace with Western Allies. This caused butthurt in communists and Russians who saw this as a tacit admission Poles wanted to help Hitler.

 

[Ishtar]

Unfortunately, almost all of this content is in the sections of the site where you have to be logged in, so I don't think I can archive any of it without outing my account.

I don't see the risk here, just screenshot it.

AH.com jannies encouraging him to troon out

Its important to remember the actual people on the site. When you're discussing whether or not the romans could have held Germania or some such you forget the disgusting filth on the other side.

I'm a bit surprised by Burton but I shouldn't be.

 

[Briananderson1138]

Indeed; remember that these are the people indiscriminately condemning you of white supremacy. Remember too that these are the self-styled arbiters of history whenever you encounter their narrative.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

I wonder how many good timelines and ideas go written and unspoken because people are scared of the jannies just banning them.

 

[BirdUp]

are there any good novels about nuclear war that try to be as accurate as possible

 

[DeadwastePrime]

are there any good novels about nuclear war that try to be as accurate as possible

we have alas babylon, on the beach, and the last ship. about as good as it'll get

 

[JJLiautaud]

are there any good novels about nuclear war that try to be as accurate as possible

The Big One is pretty good goes into america carpet nuking Germany and the barrel of monkeys that would be.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

are there any good novels about nuclear war that try to be as accurate as possible

I mentioned here War Day is a pretty good one about a "limited" nuclear war which destroys the USA and USSR and how the continental USA is doing 10 years later. Trinity's Child is also a pretty good one, sadly I was spoiled because I had watched the TV Movie made based on it so the plot fell into place without the same impact.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Those weren't Anglo-style colonies, they were merchant associations which banded together to administrate the Chinese population (who arrived as miners and merchants as permitted by local sultans) and their economic interests in a given area, which since Chinese made up a huge portion of the population in Borneo, was a sizable fraction of the island. Basically a convergent evolution to the concept of a democratic republic.

I need to do more reading on this. It actually has use for the class I teach (idea that settler colonies involved creating voluntary societies that were much nicer than anything possible elsewhere).

But these people are basically a parallel society (like Jews getting their own courts), not states?

Do you know good material on it?

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

I don't see the risk here, just screenshot it.

I already got all the funny parts. The only other kinda funny thing was this where days later and well after all the evidence was posted, some simp ate a permaban for wanting to murder Ian for banning their favorite catfishing pajeet AI poster.

I need to do more reading on this. It actually has use for the class I teach (idea that settler colonies involved creating voluntary societies that were much nicer than anything possible elsewhere).

But these people are basically a parallel society (like Jews getting their own courts), not states?

Do you know good material on it?

I only know the broad overview of how it worked. But yes, they were a parallel society that grew numerous and wealthy enough they overtook their hosts.

This book looks decent though. I'd have to look more into the topic to figure out more.