Should Chris receive donations?

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cahoots said:
A-Stump said:
I was actually thinking in relation to the whole gift card idea that has been thrown around in the fundraising thread, he could take a gift card say from Krogers and just use it to get another gift card to say, Gamestop or Amazon. There's no real way to not let him be an irresponsible butthole with any sort of funds that doesn't involve just shipping him the actual stuff.

Sometimes gift cards to a big store won't let you cash it in for another gift card. All pure random speculation at this point, but I've seen it happen before.

We should probably just stick to shipping him pickles. :julay:
 
cahoots said:
It's kinda ironic that Chris' infamy has actually helped him out in his time of need.
Only from his perspective. We've all known for a while that we had decency enough to do the right thing when it was needed.
 
A-Stump said:
I was actually thinking in relation to the whole gift card idea that has been thrown around in the fundraising thread, he could take a gift card say from Krogers and just use it to get another gift card to say, Gamestop or Amazon.

I don't know if Chris is smart enough to figure that out though.
 
A-Stump said:
I was actually thinking in relation to the whole gift card idea that has been thrown around in the fundraising thread, he could take a gift card say from Krogers and just use it to get another gift card to say, Gamestop or Amazon. There's no real way to not let him be an irresponsible butthole with any sort of funds that doesn't involve just shipping him the actual stuff.

If he's that determined to waste his sudden windfall of charity on frivolous things, who cares? I doubt many people donated with the understanding that every dollar he receives would be strictly spent on basic necessities anyway.
 
MrTroll said:
A-Stump said:
I was actually thinking in relation to the whole gift card idea that has been thrown around in the fundraising thread, he could take a gift card say from Krogers and just use it to get another gift card to say, Gamestop or Amazon. There's no real way to not let him be an irresponsible butthole with any sort of funds that doesn't involve just shipping him the actual stuff.

If he's that determined to waste his sudden windfall of charity on frivolous things, who cares? I doubt many people donated with the understanding that every dollar he receives would be strictly spent on basic necessities anyway.

At this point the whole "if I donate he'll spend it on VIDYA!" point is moot.

To paraphrase from Jackie Brown: "You can't trust Chris Chan, but you can trust Chris Chan will be Chris Chan".
 
MrTroll said:
A-Stump said:
I was actually thinking in relation to the whole gift card idea that has been thrown around in the fundraising thread, he could take a gift card say from Krogers and just use it to get another gift card to say, Gamestop or Amazon. There's no real way to not let him be an irresponsible butthole with any sort of funds that doesn't involve just shipping him the actual stuff.

If he's that determined to waste his sudden windfall of charity on frivolous things, who cares? I doubt many people donated with the understanding that every dollar he receives would be strictly spent on basic necessities anyway.
Exactly. As sad as it is, we can't MAKE Chris spend the money the way we think he should use it. I'm not saying that people shouldn't donate, just that you can't control what a person uses the donation for. That's really true of donating to anyone/anything, really.
 
SteelPlatedHeart said:
MrTroll said:
A-Stump said:
I was actually thinking in relation to the whole gift card idea that has been thrown around in the fundraising thread, he could take a gift card say from Krogers and just use it to get another gift card to say, Gamestop or Amazon. There's no real way to not let him be an irresponsible butthole with any sort of funds that doesn't involve just shipping him the actual stuff.

If he's that determined to waste his sudden windfall of charity on frivolous things, who cares? I doubt many people donated with the understanding that every dollar he receives would be strictly spent on basic necessities anyway.
Exactly. As sad as it is, we can't MAKE Chris spend the money the way we think he should use it. I'm not saying that people shouldn't donate, just that you can't control what a person uses the donation for. That's really true of donating to anyone/anything, really.

This doesn't really apply to Chris, but there is a thing called charity fraud (See VenomfangX).

If you want to make sure the money gets put to better use, maybe you could get Barb to handle the donations instead of Chris. At least we know she won't spend it all on toys and video games.
 
raymond said:
This doesn't really apply to Chris, but there is a thing called charity fraud (See VenomfangX).

If you want to make sure the money gets put to better use, maybe you could get Barb to handle the donations instead of Chris. At least we know she won't spend it all on toys and video games.

I hope somebody does. I mean, its one thing if there's money left over after the essentials(and I'm sure Chris is try to get what extra cash he can from it), but if they end up spending the money on something else and end up really needing it for something important, people may not be as generous as they've been.But so far it seems like he's being reasonable about this. Or at least he's listening to someone reasonable. Chris may be a naive idiot(to say the very least), but I don't want him to end up living on the streets or dead in a ditch somewhere.

Off-topic-ish, I'm really impressed the forums have raised as much as they have. Much respect to those that have donated.
 
Nope.

But I do think it is a good time to cut him some slack. Props to those who have donated already. Part of me thinks it would be a total waste of money on my part. :C
 
Brother, yes, he should. I realize the argument he is likely to blow it on stupid stuff, but you know something brother? If he does, then it is on him, and not you. At least you tried. If you were in his situation, you would want some help. He and Barb need help and not just because they want it, but because they need it.
 
I'm more interested in peoples response if Chris is thankful, wasteful, silent, etc. I don't care if people send him anything because it's not my money and I don't know their reasons for giving. Some people may have done it because Jesus and crap, some to feel good about themselves, and some just to see what happens. What someone deserves is pretty subjective. All I know is that I stopped really caring about this topic a few sentences ago and I'm now typing just because I have nothing to do and the longer this post is the more it initially looks like I'm making some kind of point. Everyone lost with this post and I regret nothing.
 
It's all blood money!!!

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Seriously? Who is this guy? His facebook seems to focus a lot on people with special needs...
 
As a one time deal because of the fire I say yes.

It was his own fault his life was shit before so I had no sympathy for him for living in squalor then because it was his own choice to do so then but the fire wasn't his fault so I don't mind helping him this one time with a pocket change donation that I would have spent on coffee or a subway or some shit.

All the donations or lack of donations in the world aren't going to get him to go get a haircut, a suit, to shave and shower and brush his teeth everyday and to get up at 6am and go for a morning run to lose weight and start eating right, while printing out copies of his CV and handing them out and filling in applications for jobs later in the day like he truly needs to do though but because of the fire being such a horrific thing to come out of nowhere and happen I think yeah he does need a little help here.
 
guys, let's keep giving him money even after he's situated.
 
Peter seems to be the type that wants to be a special needs advocate, but lets his passions dictate his actions rather than logic.

Also, Pete, just in case you are swinging by to say hello:

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Might want to remove this from your Facebook photo gallery before you decide to put on the white-knight suit for Chris.
 
My main objection to donating is that I don't feel he should be profiting from being a terrible person. If an average family getting by on social security had a house fire, they'd rely on insurance and donations from the community. Because Chris is so fascinatingly horrible, he gets insurance, donations from the community, and donations from the Internet due to his infamy.

He's literally getting rewarded for his behavior over the past few years.
 
FemboiBunny said:
Ha ha ha, what a story Peter Guerin.
But seriously, i find funny how a lot of people lurk here at the forums, and they still think that we are twolls and "cyberbullies" :stupid:

Well of course we are twolls and cyberbullies because we didn't get Chris a boyfriend-free girlfriend and help him find a job at the office. Instead, we have had a public conversation about one man incessant egomania, narcissism, and selfishness constantly keeping himself down - and same reasons he can't and won't relent from said actions when we spell it out for him.
 
Hulk Hogan said:
Brother, yes, he should. I realize the argument he is likely to blow it on stupid stuff, but you know something brother? If he does, then it is on him, and not you. At least you tried. If you were in his situation, you would want some help. He and Barb need help and not just because they want it, but because they need it.

I personally wouldn't want help though. In fact I've been in a similar situation for over three years. I spent most of that time on the streets and to eat I would wash dishes for a local restaurant. The last six months of that time in a mission work program. Chris doesn't really ever have to work for anything. He's allotted so much and he has no incentive to really change. When Barb dies, he'll have it even worse. To think, too, she is like 72 years old and just had a house fire. She could die from the stress of it alone. Are you guys going to be there for him again, again, and again when he frivously wastes his money and loses his apartment or whatever? He's just coasting along in life and if you think the fire was bad, no, it'll snowball and be worse than you can imagine. And that motivation for change that could have been had from disaster? Non-existent.
 
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