Should the world censor Lolicon?

[Atatata]

You miss my point: porn is a tolerance game. Gradually it won't be enough. What do you think happens when a hardcore lolicon finds loli ain't doing it for him anymore?

Wouldn't it be an easier transition if both were illegal in the first place? If you're already at risk to going to jail for something, why not go further?
The issue I have is that loli is so easy to create and distribute, someone needs to draw it and someone needs to buy it, it doesn't even need to be a good artist. I feel it would be more effective to try to seperate the two entirely from each other.
Imo the seperation of fiction and reality is something that to a certain extent needs to be enforced.

 

[Ser Prize]

Wouldn't it be an easier transition if both were illegal in the first place? If you're already at risk to going to jail for something, why not go further?
The issue I have is that loli is so easy to create and distribute, someone needs to draw it and someone needs to buy it, it doesn't even need to be a good artist. I feel it would be more effective to try to seperate the two entirely from each other.
Imo the seperation of fiction and reality is something that to a certain extent needs to be enforced.

Whether it's simulated or note it's still an attraction to the shape of a child. I used to be where you were on this but I've seen too much. I know where that coomer slippery slope leads. Once they start jacking to loli it's over.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Whether it's simulated or note it's still an attraction to the shape of a child.

If you look at any loli anime character and they're reminiscent of an actual child, it's more likely than not that you've forgotten what a child looks and acts like.

 

[Alex Hogendorp]

It's really weird but no. Unless it's realistic and involved real humans, then they shall be charged for rape and trafficking and put in a room with big cock niggers.

 

[PipTheAlchemist]

It's not any government's place to censor unwholesome drawings. As degenerate as they may be

 

[Oilspill Battery]

Drawing loli should be legal, but consumption should be illegal. Use it as a honeypot to catch pedophiles to either shot or lock up.

All these bullshit excuses about "its just a drawing" and "muh free speech" fall appart when you actually ask "A drawing of what?" and "free speech to produce what?"

Anytime you see anyone go "Its just a drawing" just mentally add "Its just a drawing of a 5 year old getting raped by multiple older men." to the end before you re-assess the statement because that's exactly what you're defending.

Same thing with "free speech". i.e. "Free speech to depict 5 year olds getting gangfucked."

And don't let me hear any of that bullshit "its not child porn, its a drawing". If a drawing of 2 dudes fucking is gay porn, then what is a drawing of a child being fucked by older men?


By the way, really intresting that we have dozens of people in this thread going "Bro, its just containment bro, they do that instead of the real thing bro, slippery slope isn't a thing bro." when this forum has about 100 threads on trannies that end up cutting their dicks off due to porn addiction pushing them over the edge of the slippery slope.

Really gets the noggin joggin huh?

Killing shit is a primal instinct all humans have; it doesn't matter if it's animals or their own kind.
However, wanting to fuck children animated or not is usually associated with mental illness and low IQ.

To add to this, nobody would bat an eye at timmy playing call of duty 3 hours a day every day, but if timmy was watching porn 3 hours a day everyone (including many of those here defending loli) would instantly turn their heads.

Sex shit belongs in an entirely different category from everything else. Its not comperable.

 

[56 others]

Most people into lolicon werent born pedophiles, they just masturbated to porn too much. Whether their coombrains can be recovered is anyones' guess.

 

[ffo kcuF]

Loli/shota etc is depictions of children for the sole purpose of arousal, it's no different than CP. I don't fucking care if it's drawings lol, it's pornographic and it involves children, it's child porn plain and simple.

 

[Mr Bubbless]

Loli/shota etc is depictions of children for the sole purpose of arousal, it's no different than CP. I don't fucking care if it's drawings lol, it's pornographic and it involves children, it's child porn plain and simple.

If you make Loli illegal then why would people even bother looking at it rather than real child porn? It would just make people look at real cp instead.

 

[ffo kcuF]

If you make Loli illegal then why would people even bother looking at it rather than real child porn? It would just make people look at real cp instead.

That doesn't make loli ok, you're talking about catering to pedophiles dude. It's not even necessarily about the content, but more about the person that enjoys that stuff. loli/CP is the same thing considering the end goal of the consumer, they are people that should not be around children and should be removed from civilised society.

A loli/shota consumer is the same thing as a CP consumer.

 

[eDove]

If you make Loli illegal then why would people even bother looking at it rather than real child porn? It would just make people look at real cp instead.

Probably? I find that a lot of people who are into hentai/artwork are exclusively into it. As others have said, lolicon rots your brain and I think hentai in general does that to you.

I've seen guys flat-out admit that they find drawings sexier than real women and that they're turned off by live-action porn. They've trained their dicks on hentai. It's grotesque and unnatural.

However, I think this argument still doesn't work. A lot of pedophiles and would-be child molesters opt for lolicon 'cause it's so accessible and since it's technically legal, there's a little less guilt.

If loli didn't exist, these same perverts would indulge in their fantasies in some other form. Underage erotica is just as prevalent online and the authors can be paid to tailor specific stories for the buyer.

My point is, if a pedophile is too afraid to seek out CP or touch a kid in real life 'cause of the legal consequences, they're probably less likely to do it. Shit like lolicon only fuels this fetish. It's not a two-edged sword that has good and bad aspects to it, it's not a necessary evil — it's a poison that only exacerbates the desire to corrupt kids.

I've also seen people claim it's purely an "aesthetic" thing, which circles back to my first point about a lot of them being into drawings more than people. If CP were considered as gray of an area as lolicon is, if children could consent in the eyes of law and rape was considered okay, I bet you these people wouldn't have gotten so into hentai in the first place. They'd be going after the real thing guilt-free 'cause their morality is determined by law — not by what's actually moral.

 

[Mothra1988]

That doesn't make loli ok, you're talking about catering to pedophiles dude. It's not even necessarily about the content, but more about the person that enjoys that stuff. loli/CP is the same thing considering the end goal of the consumer, they are people that should not be around children and should be removed from civilised society.

A loli/shota consumer is the same thing as a CP consumer.

It's not the same thing as in Lisa Simpson is not the same thing as a real child. Then on day two of this burning of the constituion, half the people here will be locked up for insulting troons like is the current case in the UK. Best solution would just be locking up the people who try to fuck with real kids, not wasting resources on creating a government art censorship task force to judge whether or some virgin sperg's anime girl body pillow demands a decade in prison.

 

[ffo kcuF]

It's not the same thing as in Lisa Simpson is not the same thing as a real child. Then on day two of this burning of the constituion, half the people here will be locked up for insulting troons like is the current case in the UK. Best solution would just be locking up the people who try to fuck with real kids, not wasting resources on creating a government art censorship task force to judge whether or some virgin sperg's anime girl body pillow demands a decade in prison.

I couldn’t give two flying shits about degenerate “art” . The people who enjoy it are the problem, they are no better than pedophiles, they get off to children being fucked.

Loli isn’t art dude, and I’m sure the art world couldn’t care less about pictures of sexualised children being outlawed. The constitution has nothing to do with it, common sense is all that’s needed.

And if people want to use the constitution as an excuse to be allowed to draw and sell pictures of children being raped, then maybe we do need to make a few amendments.

 

[Boner Pill]

If you get off on drawings of little kids you deserve a bullet to the brain.

 

[Captain Chromosome]

No. How else would I know who to target when the purges begin?

 

[Hathungor]

To me, Lolicon is THE lithmus test of whether free speech and civil rights still work or not because so many people hate it. The second it gets banned we're all fucked because then we'll have created an environment where everything is up for grabs. Emotion will have trumped reason for good.

Leaving emotion out of it as much as I can, this is my take:
The reason real CP is illegal isn't because people want to blueball pedos, its because you cannot create it without exploiting and harming children. The reason the age of consent in the US is 18 isn't because something magical happens at that age but because lawmakers agreed that it can be reasonably assumed that MOST folks at that age have the mental maturity to make an informed decision of whether they wish to have sex or not. Having seen interviews with teenagers back from the 70s I think it might've been OK to have it lower then. Looking at the internet today I wonder if some people will ever reach a degree of mental maturity at which they should be legally allowed to consent. These laws exist not to punish pedophiles but to protect those vulnerable to exploitation.

This isn't an issue with fiction. Movies like Ingloriouos Basterds celebrate being an absolute orgy of violence. They aren't critical of it in the slightest, they revel in it and go out of their way to present it to the viewer in the most gruesome and spectacular fashion. The same goes with splatter horror flicks. If the things depicted in those films were real you can bet your ass they wouldn't be allowed either. But they aren't. They may not be to some peoples tastes, but nobody even bats much of an eye.

So basically, the second we're OK with instituting laws based on absolutely nothing but subjective morals, absolutely anything can be criminalized and punished arbitrarily.

 

[Oilspill Battery]

To me, Lolicon is THE lithmus test of whether free speech and civil rights still work or not because so many people hate it. The second it gets banned we're all fucked because then we'll have created an environment where everything is up for grabs. Emotion will have trumped reason for good.

"Child porn is the litmus test of free speech" isn't the mic drop moment you think it is. Its not making you look like a badass absolutist, its making you look like a demented pedo bandwagoning free speech to protect your fetish.

 

[Mothra1988]

"Child porn is the litmus test of free speech" isn't the mic drop moment you think it is. Its not making you look like a badass absolutist, its making you look like a demented pedo bandwagoning free speech to protect your fetish.

/pol/ has rotted some of your brains, even the SCOTUS said you were wrong. You think you can pick and choose what free speech you want. It doesn't work that way. Slipperly slope is fucking real and as soon as you can send people to jail for fictional artowrk you don't like, you'll be sent to the slammer for your "problematic" beliefs. I don't know how hard this is to understand, again you think the UK where people get locked up for insulting troons or muslims is something to follow, becuase that's what happens when you erode free speech protections.

 

[ITK]

/pol/ has rotted some of your brains, even the SCOTUS said you were wrong. You think you can pick and choose what free speech you want. It doesn't work that way. Slipperly slope is fucking real and as soon as you can send people to jail for fictional artowrk you don't like, you'll be sent to the slammer for your "problematic" beliefs. I don't know how hard this is to understand, again you think the UK where people get locked up for insulting troons or muslims is something to follow, becuase that's what happens when you erode free speech protections.

America used to censor obscenity and pornography. Free speech protections (assuming pornography can be counted as speech) actually started out more restrictive and the reach of the state has only shrunk as the years passed, the opposite of a slippery slope.

 

[Oilspill Battery]

/pol/ has rotted some of your brains, even the SCOTUS said you were wrong.

I'm not american, I don't give a fuck what the scotus said. If they defend child porn they can go fuck themselves too.

Slipperly slope is fucking real and as soon as you can send people to jail for fictional artowrk you don't like, you'll be sent to the slammer for your "problematic" beliefs.

Child porn. What I don't like is child porn.

Why is it that CP defenders always use a roundabout way of refering to it? "Drawings" "Artwork" "Fictional images", they never actually spell out what the particular issue is.