Should We Crash China's Economy? - With No GloboHomo Survivors

[Secret Asshole]

So, China has been in the news a lot lately. A 5% ownership in Blizzard was enough to severely restrict speech and withdraw an award. The NBA is getting sponsors pulled because of people badmouthing China. We've got Google working with China to establish an authoritarian search engine before people walked out. We've got our entertainment being censored, written and directed differently to appeal to the Chinese market. Tencent owns a huge portion of the gaming industry, which will affect creativity, monetization and what games get made for decades to come. Not to mention selling your information for billions. Hollywood is continually trying to appeal to the Chinese market. Forget banks and credit card companies. They're in balls deep, along with manufacturing. Next, the most authoritarian of our so-called moral tech companies wants in on China too.

This wouldn't be so bad. Except China is a big giant fucking reactionary baby. Its not just about their control over our economy, our entertainment and such. If these were just businesses, fine. But in China, politics is business. So the CCP maintains an iron hold on its businesses and will enforce even the most milquetoast criticisms. The main problem is this: You can't boycott all these companies. And their strangle-hold is only getting bigger.

Chinese values are starting to infringe on our rights. Me, being a former socialist and all, believes the government should kick down the doors of these faggots and preform defenestration on all the executives.

The mantra of 'private company' no longer applies in the age of gigantic, multinational conglomerates who are richer and more influential than some governments. What we are effectively allowing are stateless, monolithic entities to control our rights in the name of profit. People say political speech should be a protected right. I don't think that goes far enough. I don't want Chinese influence on our culture. I don't want companies surrendering American values of freedom, freedom of expression and a right to protest just because they want a Chinese dollar. To do that, moving companies out of America isn't enough.

I know this idea is pretty insane, but nobody said I was mentally stable but....lets burn the Chinese Paper Tiger Economy to the ground. Lets just fucking take a bat to its wobbling fucking jenga-block of an economy and knock it the fuck down. Sure, it'd fuck over the world, but the reds would be completely fucked and the CCP would be forced to release its stranglehold. We laugh and joke about China and its knockoffs and its authoritarianism but its starting to not get funny anymore.

What about China buying into media companies? Russia isn't the worry. China is too dominant a force in our business. If we can't or won't knock the Chinese economy down, we have to fuck over American business betraying our values for cash. Personally I'd rather crash this son of a bitch, because China is currently the most dangerous entity on the world stage. It is incredibly thin skinned, reactionary, paranoid and desperate to hold onto power despite any cost. And its pushing all of that on us. Companies only see the population. But I see an economy constantly built on lies upon lies, which will only cause them to become even more authoritarian. So I say lets cut the shit and get right to it.

The rich fuck us enough. But now we're being forced to give up our rights by a foreign power due to 'muh private business'. Something needs to be done. Obviously, this is the most extreme option. But I'm not fucking willing to accept a foreign power infringing on my fucking rights.

 

[Revan]

Hell no, fucking China's economy will fuck us right back.

 

[A Useless Fish]

If the Chinese economy was brought to its knees, could the Communist party maintain power? They'd be relying on the army, but if they couldn't pay for their services, anymore? Would we get another Chang Kai Shek in power? Would that make things better, or worse, since the new government would also likely be a gang of authoritarian assholes with the same grip in private companies over here?

 

[TFT-A9]

I want it to happen but I don't think it will, at least not by our hands. I anticipate China trying some serious hijinks when their paper tiger finishes burning, and I'm pretty sure it's going to hit us too.

 

[Questionable Ceviche]

They're doing a pretty good job of hobbling their own economy without our help.

 

[DumbDude42]

it's not so much a question of "should" but one of "could"

leftists control all major western powers, and all of them will gladly lick the boots of their new beijing overlords as long as it allows them to virtue signal about sticking it to drumpf

and while america is indeed powerful, it's not powerful enough to single-handedly force the rest of the world into submission in an actual trade war

 

[Marco Fucko]

I say two nukes wasn't enough low cost of manufacturing can always be moved to other countries and quite frankly China is all too eager to be buy western property but also demand kowtowing. Maybe a modicum of economic warfare will teach them respect.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

If the Chinese economy was brought to its knees, could the Communist party maintain power? They'd be relying on the army, but if they couldn't pay for their services, anymore? Would we get another Chang Kai Shek in power? Would that make things better, or worse, since the new government would also likely be a gang of authoritarian assholes with the same grip in private companies over here?

Why do you think they have been stock piling raw materials (and gold)

 

[Secret Asshole]

Hell no, fucking China's economy will fuck us right back.

Shit's gonna drop with or without us. Better for us to control that drop than let China go apeshit.

If the Chinese economy was brought to its knees, could the Communist party maintain power? They'd be relying on the army, but if they couldn't pay for their services, anymore? Would we get another Chang Kai Shek in power? Would that make things better, or worse, since the new government would also likely be a gang of authoritarian assholes with the same grip in private companies over here?

Don't think so. Winnie the Poo acted like Valdimir Putin and consolidated all power. Economy goes, he goes, and then its junta time.

I want it to happen but I don't think it will, at least not by our hands. I anticipate China trying some serious hijinks when their paper tiger finishes burning, and I'm pretty sure it's going to hit us too.

Its just, the paper tiger is going to burn us too thanks to our faggot execs. I'm just proposing we control how it burns us rather than just letting China play pretend with its stock market and everything being ok.

 

[A Useless Fish]

How much investment does China have in Africa now, anyways? Say that you wanted to cripple them immediately, would blockading access to all of the resources they're getting control of throughout the continent there do it?

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

How much investment does China have in Africa now, anyways? Say that you wanted to cripple them immediately, would blockading access to all of the resources they're getting control of throughout the continent there do it?

that would be a world war (and we would need the frenchies on board)

 

[Secret Asshole]

Yeah, you can't just cut off China's access to Africa. China is extraordinarily reactionary like I said. Just look at the South China Sea. Despite having 'China' in the name, its claimed by multiple countries who are very close to it. Even that has to be with a tender touch. If we crater their shit into the ground, Africa will be the least of their worries.

EDIT:
Oh and the last time the French got involved in Africa it caused the migrant crisis by convincing us to obliterate Libiya. Lets not let the frogs in on anything where they can fuck it up.

 

[Syaoran Li]

If I were President Trump, I'd wait until the 2020 Election cycle is over. In the event of re-election, escalate the trade war with a full-scale embargo like we did to Cuba. Freeze all Chinese assets in the United States and issue an ultimatum to the Silicon Valley commissars: Cease all business with the PRC or face the possibility of treason charges.

That ultimatum will send a message to Hollywood and the manufacturing companies.

Admittedly, the American economy will be hurting badly in the short-term and Trump will get a lot of flak from it but if the policy is kept in place for the entirety of a second term, that should deal some major damage to Xi Jinping's regime and even if the winner of the 2024 Election immediately overturns all those sanctions and embargoes, China will be in a bigger world of hurt than us.

We'll be able to recover from a post-China recession and our government is not at risk of collapse in a major recession while the Chinese government is.

Beijing Delenda Est

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Yeah, you can't just cut off China's access to Africa. China is extraordinarily reactionary like I said. Just look at the South China Sea. Despite having 'China' in the name, its claimed by multiple countries who are very close to it. Even that has to be with a tender touch. If we crater their shit into the ground, Africa will be the least of their worries.

And a lot of those African countries want an excuse to nationalize the chicom investments

If I were President Trump, I'd wait until the 2020 Election cycle is over. In the event of re-election, escalate the trade war with a full-scale embargo like we did to Cuba. Freeze all Chinese assets in the United States and issue an ultimatum to the Silicon Valley commissars: Cease all business with the PRC or face the possibility of treason charges.

That ultimatum will send a message to Hollywood and the manufacturing companies.

Admittedly, the American economy will be hurting badly in the short-term and Trump will get a lot of flak from it but if the policy is kept in place for the entirety of a second term, that should deal some major damage to Xi Jinping's regime and even if the winner of the 2024 Election immediately overturns all those sanctions and embargoes, China will be in a bigger world of hurt than us.

We'll be able to recover from a post-China recession and our government is not at risk of collapse in a major recession while the Chinese government is.

Beijing Delenda Est

China is bleeding out now.....you dont need to cut deeper

 

[Nobunaga]

We should had let the japs exterminate the chinese before we provoked them into attacking pearl harbor.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

I'm all for this. I'll be blunt here; Communist China should've been burnt to the ground after what happened at Tienanmen Square. In all honesty, it should've never gotten that far to begin with, but if there was ever a straw that broke the camel's back, that should've been it.

Crashing their economy will undoubtedly hurt us, but it will utterly destroy them. I'd say it's more than worth it. I would gladly sit through another recession if it meant the CCP gets completely annihilated in the process.

 

[Vlinny-kun]

I'm all for it, but how are we going to do that?

I'd personally would like to drop a nuke down on each of their costal cities, including Beijing, even if it didn't put a dent in there economy.

 

[HarveyMCR]

Hell no, fucking China's economy will fuck us right back.

You misunderstand. China has a POTENTIAL economy (I.E: There are huge profits to be made in the future), they have the economy of a paper tiger right now. They have 5x the population and less than have the GDP. They might have large numbers, but they can't bring those numbers to bear.

 

[FA 855]

The way I would do this is by getting American intelligence to use more money to weed out Chinese agents attempting to steal US intellectual property, we need to be willing to steal their IPs. Trumps moves on China are good but we need to increase pressure, personally I think the biggest mistake NATO made was when it refused Russia admission, they might've been a good third wheel against these Chinese fucks by now. America should pressure European nations to stop using Chinese state owned 'companies' for their crucial infrastructure, this is what your intelligence agencies keep saying and no one fucking listens because all they care about in Europe is money. Next steps: Fund Hong Kong protesters, strengthen Taiwan, undermine two systems one country concept and promote separatism among-st the Tibetans and Uighurs get arms over the borders.

Often, wars are costly because we don't understand our enemy, like Vietnam, or the Taliban, we need to know how the CCP thinks and how the populations their think, we should take the advice of Chinese Americans who know a thing or two about the culture and how we might use that as leverage.

Put more funding into cyber security, the Chinese are formidable as the hacker 4chan and we need to up our game. Increase penalties for politicians taking bribes from Chinese state owned 'companies' (like what happened in Australia labour party, it will happen in the US if something isn't done) as something like life in prison or death sentence for treason. Prevent China buying any further shares in western companies, compete better against China for influence in Africa.

 

[TenMilesWide]

we need to be willing to steal their IPs.

Do they have any to steal?