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Should We Crash China's Economy? - With No GloboHomo Survivors
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A lot of White supremacist also suffer massive cognitive dissonance over their yellow fever, so...
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I sure as hell hope we took him up on that.
And a good amount of white supremacists also have an Asian fetish.
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They got sent back because their feet were all fucked up.
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Wizard powers allow them to scry the true value of each type in the bestiary.
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As others have said, Cuba's economy was smaller and less dependent on foreign trade with other large economies, unlike China, who needs to sell shoddy exports to North America, Europe, and Oceania to stay afloat. Cuba's main sector of the economy was agriculture, followed by blackjack and hookers.
While the United States may have cut off Cuba, no one else did. Cuba is a small and unimportant country compared to China. When we put the embargo on them in the early 1960's, it meant nothing. Part of it was because the Soviets kept them propped up, but the more important part was that none of the other Western powers placed harsh sanctions on Cuba.
We put the embargo on Cuba mainly because the Castro Regime was an issue of border security since they're less than 100 miles from Miami.
China is a global power and if we embargo the fuck out of them, it could motivate other countries to place sanctions on them.
The Chinese attempt to colonize Africa via the Belt and Road initiative always seemed to be more of a "Plan B" to prop up the economy via all those raw natural resources in Africa, either as a means to give their paper tiger actual claws or as a fall back in the unlikely event that the West gets pissed off enough to tell them to fuck off.
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This is America. We don't "Steal" we "Liberate"
Which is why if you're going to go as far as tanking their economy you might as well just go to war. You don't owe debts to the PRC if the PRC don't exist no more.If America should learn anything from the last time we had a rival in the pacific its not to bother with half-measures.
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They’re reactionary in the non-political sense ie. paranoid, aggressive, and absurdly thin-skinned.
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Their economy will tank itself, eventually. Keep building empty cities so's you can lie about your GDP, see how long that stays viable.
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the only good red is a dead red. The west has been too nice to China for long time and how have they paid back? Kidnapping citzen of the west and putting them in prison back in China, massive IP theft and runing one of the worst police states in the world. I want their economy to crash so hard that I can hear it from europa. The leaders of the EU have been fucking pussies when it come to China.
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So has the United States, giving it Most Favored Nation status for no reason but Wal-Mart's profits, a move that not only benefited China at the expense of American manufacturers, but basically killed the mom and pop store across the entire country as an engine of our GDP. Now people who would have previously been working at or owning shops like that are forced into Wal-Mart slavery.
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America couldn't handle losing a few banks, tanking China would send us directly to Mad Max-Land
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Meaning they've hooked themselves directly into the keystone of our entire economy.
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Its better to let ideas fail on their own merit.
Here is a good example: Socialism in Latin America.
The USA toppled left-leaning democracies and let kleptocractic feudal dictatorships take their place. The fall of these regimes saw the rise of leftwing governments for decades as these left-leaning leaders became nationalist freedom fighters.
.... Its been a few decades without dictatorships and most of Latin America is right leaning democracies dominated by social conservatives. The leftwing populism failed horribly due to their culture of patronage and they couldn't really blame America.
In Cuba and Venezuela the USA has attempted coups and undermined the regimes. The people blame America instead of their own governments and the failed policies chug on.
And China would fall apart without access to the oceans and consumers to buy their stuff.
Here is a good example: Socialism in Latin America.
The USA toppled left-leaning democracies and let kleptocractic feudal dictatorships take their place. The fall of these regimes saw the rise of leftwing governments for decades as these left-leaning leaders became nationalist freedom fighters.
.... Its been a few decades without dictatorships and most of Latin America is right leaning democracies dominated by social conservatives. The leftwing populism failed horribly due to their culture of patronage and they couldn't really blame America.
In Cuba and Venezuela the USA has attempted coups and undermined the regimes. The people blame America instead of their own governments and the failed policies chug on.
And China would fall apart without access to the oceans and consumers to buy their stuff.
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I'm all for tanking China's economy and hope there is a famine that returns them to their humble cannibalistic origins (Like Albert Fish narrated) but if China falls many other countries would follow. Why? Because China has gotten its filthy hands into many other places.
The most affected would be African countries, where China is pretty much a colonial power but cannot enforce an organized and structured rule around like the colonial empires of old. They have been financing many infrastructure and housing projects, but the inefficiency, thievery and corruption of the average african person has made such projects nearly impossible, making China operate at a loss with many african nations. But that is of no concern since they want to put all of them in their debt to squeeze their natural resources at an advantage against other nations.
The second most affected would be Europe. Southern Europe to be more precise. In the last economic crisis, when the PIGS (Acronym used to refer to the countries of southern Europe) were about to crash because they were mired in debt, China moved in and bought as much debt as they could. If China goes under in the next 50 years it would inevitably drag most of southern Europe with them because they have around half the debt of the countries, probably causing the EU to shit their pants in the process for a second time.
As much as China is a blight on the planet and it would be nice to hold next to no power in international politics, at this point they are kind of a necessary evil for the time being.
The most affected would be African countries, where China is pretty much a colonial power but cannot enforce an organized and structured rule around like the colonial empires of old. They have been financing many infrastructure and housing projects, but the inefficiency, thievery and corruption of the average african person has made such projects nearly impossible, making China operate at a loss with many african nations. But that is of no concern since they want to put all of them in their debt to squeeze their natural resources at an advantage against other nations.
The second most affected would be Europe. Southern Europe to be more precise. In the last economic crisis, when the PIGS (Acronym used to refer to the countries of southern Europe) were about to crash because they were mired in debt, China moved in and bought as much debt as they could. If China goes under in the next 50 years it would inevitably drag most of southern Europe with them because they have around half the debt of the countries, probably causing the EU to shit their pants in the process for a second time.
As much as China is a blight on the planet and it would be nice to hold next to no power in international politics, at this point they are kind of a necessary evil for the time being.
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@Secret Asshole
I agree with you. The west should do more to dismantle China's global influence and any outside influence that can be exerted to create cultural change or more recently in the case of the US censorship. I think people forget the fact that China and the Chinese economy is not built on the idea of a free market industry in the same way Americans understand their corporatism.
The opening of the Chinese economy was expressly done by the CCP as a means of creating more outward growth, having witnessed the fall of the Soviet Union in part due to small growth factors and lack of access to outside markets and western economies in general. All the while maintaining ties or influential controls, stake holdings, and other factors in these "Companies" in order to make sure that they stuck to the establishments business models.
China in the Hong Kong negotiations didn't actually want Hong Kong back because of any re-unification bunk sold to the press at the time. They wanted it because Hong Kong had been built up by the British as being the major financial centre of Asia outside of Japan. The benefit of taking Hong Kong back was that it already had a financial and world trade infrastructure that the mainland didn't have.
Had the British actually not handed over Hong Kong, China would not have made any military actions in order to reclaim it, because despite having a sizable army, the PLA is more of an enforcement army than one meant for military excursions, as well as it going against Chinese financial interests to risk war with a western nation.
This is the main reason that anyone who says China will go to war with the US is talking out of their asses. China is an industrial parasitic economy, it needs the sale of Chinese good to outside interest in order to keep their economy afloat and war with any major western economy would mean not only the loss of any potential investments or funds within that economy, but also a complete default on any debt obligations to Chinese firms and lenders, as well as a massive blow to their manufacturers.
As for the CCP knowing it's economy is a paper tiger, you need only look at some of the more recent corruption scandals withing the CCP itself and also Chinese held firms.
Any country whose wealthy citizens engage in aggressive land banking or buying holdings in foreign companies shows an internal lack of stability. You see this with Russian Oligarch, Saudi's and other Arabs, and more over the Chinese, who have been buying aggressively in Australia, American, Canada, and Britain. All stable western democracies that have a deep held tradition of respecting property rights, regardless of the owners national background.
There is further evidence when you see private Chinese companies also buy stakeholdings in foreign firms, even those that could be considered direct competitors. These are the elites of China hedging their bets. Same goes for education, most of the mainland or Hong Kong Chinese you see come over as students in western universities are from wealthy families with direct ties to the CCP.
Crashing it's economy wouldn't be difficult, if anything you could make the argument it would be better for the world economy in general, especially developing market in Africa and India as well as Western markets, but the major issue with that lies in the fact that people are so used to buying Chinese goods, that most western countries outside of America don't have the industrial capacity anymore, the outsourcing has been so savage, or the fact that the Joe Bloggs of those countries are going to have to get used to the idea, that you won't be able to buy your crap for rock bottom prices.
I agree with you. The west should do more to dismantle China's global influence and any outside influence that can be exerted to create cultural change or more recently in the case of the US censorship. I think people forget the fact that China and the Chinese economy is not built on the idea of a free market industry in the same way Americans understand their corporatism.
The opening of the Chinese economy was expressly done by the CCP as a means of creating more outward growth, having witnessed the fall of the Soviet Union in part due to small growth factors and lack of access to outside markets and western economies in general. All the while maintaining ties or influential controls, stake holdings, and other factors in these "Companies" in order to make sure that they stuck to the establishments business models.
China in the Hong Kong negotiations didn't actually want Hong Kong back because of any re-unification bunk sold to the press at the time. They wanted it because Hong Kong had been built up by the British as being the major financial centre of Asia outside of Japan. The benefit of taking Hong Kong back was that it already had a financial and world trade infrastructure that the mainland didn't have.
Had the British actually not handed over Hong Kong, China would not have made any military actions in order to reclaim it, because despite having a sizable army, the PLA is more of an enforcement army than one meant for military excursions, as well as it going against Chinese financial interests to risk war with a western nation.
This is the main reason that anyone who says China will go to war with the US is talking out of their asses. China is an industrial parasitic economy, it needs the sale of Chinese good to outside interest in order to keep their economy afloat and war with any major western economy would mean not only the loss of any potential investments or funds within that economy, but also a complete default on any debt obligations to Chinese firms and lenders, as well as a massive blow to their manufacturers.
As for the CCP knowing it's economy is a paper tiger, you need only look at some of the more recent corruption scandals withing the CCP itself and also Chinese held firms.
Any country whose wealthy citizens engage in aggressive land banking or buying holdings in foreign companies shows an internal lack of stability. You see this with Russian Oligarch, Saudi's and other Arabs, and more over the Chinese, who have been buying aggressively in Australia, American, Canada, and Britain. All stable western democracies that have a deep held tradition of respecting property rights, regardless of the owners national background.
There is further evidence when you see private Chinese companies also buy stakeholdings in foreign firms, even those that could be considered direct competitors. These are the elites of China hedging their bets. Same goes for education, most of the mainland or Hong Kong Chinese you see come over as students in western universities are from wealthy families with direct ties to the CCP.
Crashing it's economy wouldn't be difficult, if anything you could make the argument it would be better for the world economy in general, especially developing market in Africa and India as well as Western markets, but the major issue with that lies in the fact that people are so used to buying Chinese goods, that most western countries outside of America don't have the industrial capacity anymore, the outsourcing has been so savage, or the fact that the Joe Bloggs of those countries are going to have to get used to the idea, that you won't be able to buy your crap for rock bottom prices.
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How? Are we all going over there to personally liberate forced labour camps?cos I gotta say if you want to see what happens when you free slaves all willy nilly just look at Detroit and how much that improved the economy.
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We're in too deep, it wouldn't be a good idea to try and fuck with them now
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If its either that or being owned by the reds, I chose the end of the world. Liberty or Death motherfuckers. Like @AnOminous said.
I've loathed China for a long, long time. From massive outsourcing, to its strangle-hold on rare Earth mining, to its massive theft of IP and US secrets, from forging scientific studies, for making our sociopathic, traitorous corporations bend the knee, to slavery, to its absolute destruction of its own environment, to its stranglehold on cheap manufacturing creating our rust belt and destroying parts of the US, from basically owning Africa and ripping it apart so its enemies have to deal with the consequences, for being completely disingenuous and unscrupulous in pretty much every economic dealing, from its absolute arrogance and thin skin, to its fake fucking economy that is a disaster waiting to happen, to exporting cheap opioids ramping up our own epidemic....yeah, I haven't liked China for a long fucking time. But nobody gives a shit. And this is the straw that broke it for me.
I don't care anymore. I'm tired of appeasing these arrogant, insect-hive minded fucks. Every fucking time, the world bends the knee. EVERY. TIME. Its all fucking talk when it comes to the Chinese. Nobody wants to move because its 'bad for business'. I am just tired of it. Time to take a blowtorch to them. Fucking appeasement, Jesus Christ. Worked so fucking well before.
I have absolutely no doubts that the British should have held onto Hong Kong and never gave it over. Fucking idiots. If Hong Kong was owned by America, that shit never would have happened.
Crashing its economy would hurt, a lot. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fucking moron. But if its going to crash, a controlled demolition is better than a free-fall and that's what I'm proposing. Because their economy is built on a house of absolute horseshit and nobody actually knows what the fuck is actually going on because China are serial liars who enforce that with a bullet. You're only going off information they give you, which is laughable. And the way Xi is projecting and how thin his skin is, I predict its not that fucking great.
Yeah, China wouldn't go to war. If we crashed or were actually crashing its economy, it'd break and let us do what we want. The problem is there are too many US interests that want that sexy hive-mind money and want to sell our freedom for it. It'd definitely fuck them over, which I have absolutely NO problem with. I'd love for them to get fucked and their CEOs slitting their wrists. Problem is there's just no will to do this. It'd be a fuck ton better for the world economy. It'd enrich nations and we could use a democratic partner like India for our cheap manufacturing if that's what we really want. You know, one that values freedom and is our long-time ally. Just a fucking thought there.
The problem is there's just no will to do it. There should be, as a world economy shouldn't be centered around a fucking communist authoritarian shit hole. Maybe it will collapse on its own. But it will be far more chaotic than if we just bite the bullet and just did it ourselves. It won't happen though. Too many globohomo interests love Chinese cock and our corporations would whine and pay off our politicians. So its just a thought experiment, yes.
But we're just surrendering ourselves to them and only ensuring when that inevitable fall comes, it will hurt harder than anything I've proposed.