Silent Hill

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Maniacal Foreigner said:
The story of Silent Hill 1 sounds silly on the surface, but that's because you're taking it too literally. The whole thing is a metaphor for spiritual alchemy:
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capitalBBustard said:
More like nobody takes the words "nightmare" and "dream" literally enough, even though they're used like 80 different times. Harry saying "reality is becoming a nightmare" is as upfront and literal as it gets.
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And both of those things are just there to add layers to the story about a poor child being abused by her crazy cultist mother and the trauma that comes with it.
 
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Keine said:
On the other hand, I knew that The Short Message was gonna be dogshit the moment they canonized COVID-19 into Silent Hill.
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Michael Wade said:
The only game I've seen that actually pulled off COVID well was a visual novel of vampire the masquerade.

It just happens in the middle of everything, nobody has any warning or clue wtf is going on and it's just an excuse to get all the humans off the streets. Nobody actually dies or gets sick from it in front of you.
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Okay, I really wanna nip this autism in the bud before it goes too far.

Whether you think the disease itself is real, the fact remained that the lockdowns happened and absolutely fucked the world's economy and it was a big deal for the last couple of years. Any writer making a story obstensibly set on modern-day Earth would be retarded to pretend it didn't happen.

And nobody in the game actually gets sick from covid--its brought up as a reason a girl's dad lost his job and so the girl had to abandon her college plans and basically add another layer to her shitty life.

Things like this absolutely happened during the wuflu years, so acting like its somehow wrong to include it is retarded.

If I make a game about the Titanic, would you cry foul if I had the ship sink because it hit an iceberg? Or would you accept that that's what fucking happened in real life so of course I'm gonna reflect that?

Also, the document that mentions it is completely optional, just FYI.

I mean, it is still a zoomer walking sim at the end of the day, but are we really this desperate for things to complain about?

EDIT: Wow this post seems to have triggered some thin-skinned little snowflakes. Grow up. Mentioning real-world events does not automatically make a post "political" despite what your cope-brained mind wants to believe, and writers are not under any obligation to make all stories alt history just to pander to your pathetic little fee-fees.
 
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Twinkie said:
something people forget (or perhaps don't realize) is that most of the games aren't even set in present day
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Aren’t the original 3 or 4 games set in the 80’s or 90’s? Silent hill 3 makes it especially clear on that one.
 
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Aren’t the original 3 or 4 games set in the 80’s or 90’s? Silent hill 3 makes it especially clear on that one.
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It's unclear when the games actually do take place
 
TVB said:
It's unclear when the games actually do take place
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The art director for Silent Hill 2, Masahiro Ito, claimed that the game took place in the late 70s or early 80s. But Silent Hill: Homecoming said it takes place in 1993. So no one knows what the fuck is going on. Which is in line with Silent Hill.
 
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Evil Peter Griffin said:
The art director for Silent Hill 2, Masahiro Ito, claimed that the game took place in the late 70s or early 80s. But Silent Hill: Homecoming said it takes place in 1993. So no one knows what the fuck is going on. Which is in line with Silent Hill.
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Nobody gives a fuck what Homecoming says. As far as the Team Silent titles are concerned, all we know for sure is that SH3 takes place 17 years after SH1.
And yes, when exactly the games take place is intentionally vague - it's irrelevant.
 
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Maniacal Foreigner said:
Nobody gives a fuck what Homecoming says. As far as the Team Silent titles are concerned, all we know for sure is that SH3 takes place 17 years after SH1.
And yes, when exactly the games take place is intentionally vague - it's irrelevant.
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I know fuck Homecoming but that game did give a timeline to the series. Its said Silent Hill: Origins takes place 1976, Silent Hill 1 takes place in 1983, Silent Hill 2 takes place 1993, Silent Hill 3 takes place 2000, and Silent Hill 4 takes place 2001. I dont know how hands on Konami was on Homecoming so either they approved this or didn't care.
 
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Evil Peter Griffin said:
The art director for Silent Hill 2, Masahiro Ito, claimed that the game took place in the late 70s or early 80s. But Silent Hill: Homecoming said it takes place in 1993. So no one knows what the fuck is going on. Which is in line with Silent Hill.
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..... I'm kinda confused as to why this makes it "confusing." Homecoming's story has absolutely nothing to do with SH2's story. It's entirely possible that James Sunderland's adventure took place a decade or more before the events of Homecoming.

In fact, considering the town of SH itself has been around for hundreds of years, its not only possible, its likely that tons of people who have no connection have wandered into it.
 
I don't think there's anything wrong with Silent Hill 2 being a psychological horror about trauma and the struggle to deal with it. The problem is that society nowadays fetishizes trauma and mental health and now that every game has it it's tiresome to see it again. It's like being mad at Sephiroth for being an edgy anime swordsman, yeah it's contrived and overdone, but that's because we've had 20-30ish years of people trying to mimic it poorly and ruining the whole concept.
 
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Keine said:
I was really in that camp when the SH2 remake was first shown off but the more I see the less worried I've gotten. I didn't think the Dead Space remake was gonna be any good either and that more or less turned out okay.

On the other hand, I knew that The Short Message was gonna be dogshit the moment they canonized COVID-19 into Silent Hill. It also leads into why I both love and hate SH2. While it is a fantastic game, it's almost too much so for its own good because now every dev who takes a crack at the series has to dickride that game.
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Action games are easy to remake especially great games like Dead Space and RE4 because all you have to do is keep the core ideas behind them and expand, tighten, refine to taste. They're already 3rd person action games, just make them prettier/better (subjective but you understand what I'm saying broadly here).

Silent Hill has always been troublesome because they aren't action games, they're horror games with action in them. I honestly don't know the answer because even if they manage to "fix" the combat or update it or what, I think you're making a shift away from horror being priority to action being the at the forefront. I might be wrong and I want to be wrong but from what I've seen so far combined with Bloober's shitty track record it isn't hopeful.
 
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