SJW Art and Extremes

[Crazy_DONA]

Another round of guess the character!

Spoiler

Damn, another artist I like and follow is not so bad compared to the other things shown here.
the sketch artist is not a sjw or similar

 

[IdaRita]

Not as bad as other things posted here recently, but it's one thing to draw your body positive UwU Sailor Moon and another trying to sell those fanarts.

Spoiler: storenvy why

http://www.storenvy.com/products/3211761-medium-sailor-moon-print

http://www.storenvy.com/products/22044014-in-the-name-of-the-moon

By the way, I was looking SM stuff on storenvy and hate how every girly property now has 90% of fanarts being "grrrrl pwrrr""fight like a girl" or/and subversive pastel sh*t. Like, you can't enjoy it for fun/because you are just a girly girl, you have to say how empowering and feminist it is in your eyes. Thaks for ruining things I like, tumblr.

 

[Ceiling Kitten]

Not as bad as other things posted here recently, but it's one thing to draw your body positive UwU Sailor Moon and another trying to sell those fanarts.

Spoiler: storenvy why

http://www.storenvy.com/products/3211761-medium-sailor-moon-print

http://www.storenvy.com/products/22044014-in-the-name-of-the-moon

By the way, I was looking SM stuff on storenvy and hate how every girly property now has 90% of fanarts being "grrrrl pwrrr""fight like a girl" or/and subversive pastel sh*t. Like, you can't enjoy it for fun/because you are just a girly girl, you have to say how empowering and feminist it is in your eyes. Thaks for ruining things I like, tumblr.

The second art is kinda cute and has nice colors, IMO. The first one, tho... uuuuuugh.

 

[scathefire]

Not as bad as other things posted here recently, but it's one thing to draw your body positive UwU Sailor Moon and another trying to sell those fanarts.

Spoiler: storenvy why

The face reminds me of Cinderella’s intentionally ugly evil stepsisters

 

[IdaRita]

After storenvy I visited etsy. And found some repaited dolls that fit here quite well...

Spoiler: When SJW art became 3D

https://www.etsy.com/listing/567175...earch_query=doll repaint&ref=sr_gallery-12-46

https://www.etsy.com/listing/598756...earch_query=doll repaint&ref=sr_gallery-10-12

https://www.etsy.com/listing/597420...earch_query=doll repaint&ref=sr_gallery-15-24

https://www.etsy.com/listing/612706...search_query=doll repaint&ref=sr_gallery-26-8

 

[HY 140]

she looks a domestic violence victim

 

[Nekromantik]

she looks a domestic violence victim

Or drunk, or both.

Why does this remind me of an owl?

 

[HY 140]

Why does this remind me of an owl?

cause her eyes are as big as her skull

 

[Wabbu]

I think it does an ok job being creepy-cute, heavily stylized, and somewhat parodying anime, if that wasn't the intention, then, wow.

 

[Hummingbird]

Um, is Sailor Moon supposed to look like a middle-aged soccer mom dressed as Sailor Moon for Halloween?

Or some middle-aged guy trying to being a girl. Those titties look weird.

 

[Trilby]

The second art is kinda cute and has nice colors, IMO. The first one, tho... uuuuuugh.

That face is such a turn-off. The second one certainly looks better given the facial details being minimal.

 

[Hummingbird]

how can you get this

from this

That face is creepy.

 

[Trilby]

how can you get this

from this

Whenever they try to de-anthro an anthro, it never looks good.

 

[Smarmy]

how can you get this

from this

Needs more ears. He doesn’t have enough ears.

 

[真理子]

how can you get this

from this

 

[DatBoiShepard]

Appeal? What is that???

Spoiler: Screencap Redraw

 

[Tanti-Fanti]

Appeal? What is that???

Spoiler: Screencap Redraw

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Okay, if I can give the artist some credit, they tried to give a variety of body types to the girls. I will admit that even when I was younger ( you know, the audience that's being targeted to here) I found it odd that all of the girls for being teenagers all from different places had the same body type.

HOWEVER, the fact that they changed the clothes is so odd to me. They aren't that bad in the original (hell, when I was still in highschool (the girls are 16) I saw much MUCH worse than that) so I don't know why they went to censor it even more. To add onto that, they gave everyone such derpy faces compared to the original. Which is even more odd considering the second original picture looks more like an in-between frame of animation.

But what I think this also shows these people's inability to realize the difference between "appeal" and reality.

In reality, people tend to wear pretty dull clothing unless they're really into fashion and makeup and all that. This isn't a bad thing and that's because it's easier to put on something that's darker to wear than to spend time looking for bright clothes that'll get dirtied up quicker(plus in some cases it's cheaper). In particular, many teenagers who are lazy are probably not going to wear a bunch of bright clothing everyday. It's not that they'll never will, but it's not as normal as you think. But in an animation or comic, you're allowed to take some liberties with this. So what's my point here?

The point is that in reality, to these young artists, yeah it makes sense to wear normal clothes. And sometimes that really helps to ground a character who's supposed to be normal. But that's also a problem in itself. It's boring as hell. The reason why so many character designers like to make such complicated designs isn't as much as functionality as much as it is adding life to a character. Because in real life, no one wears tacky bright clothing all the time. Therefore, when you see a character have this scheme it sticks out more and is memorable to the eye.

This is why so many super hero and magical girl shows use bright, bold color schemes for the characters. It's why you always see the red haired character acting fiery and passionate. It's why you might see a blue character be gloomy and grim. There's a whole psychology to it, but you can basically google, "color theory psychology" and you''ll find out more.

These artists don't seem to understand the nuance of this. AT ALL. For example, Tecna, the pinked haired one, is colored in bright greens and pinks to represent her femininity and interest in technology. Her original design is almost like this gaudy neo-futuristic punk. It's actually quite clever for a show about shilling out toys.

Spoiler: This is her transformed, but still...

Her newer redesign doesn't stand out as well and tell you much about her personality. She looks bland. That's not fun in a fantasy about transforming into a magic pixie girl. In fact, it destroys the entire point.

Like, I can get wanting to give a character a more "normal" design. I really do. But what's the point of a fantasy, if there is none? A teenager in these shows can wear normal clothes, but they have to be stylized in some way to stand out. When they don't, you get young anime protag brown hair and same facial structure over and over.

 

[Trilby]

Okay, if I can give the artist some credit, they tried to give a variety of body types to the girls. I will admit that even when I was younger ( you know, the audience that's being targeted to here) I found it odd that all of the girls for being teenagers all from different places had the same body type.

HOWEVER, the fact that they changed the clothes is so odd to me. They aren't that bad in the original (hell, when I was still in highschool (the girls are 16) I saw much MUCH worse than that) so I don't know why they went to censor it even more. To add onto that, they gave everyone such derpy faces compared to the original. Which is even more odd considering the second original picture looks more like an in-between frame of animation.

But what I think this also shows these people's inability to realize the difference between "appeal" and reality.

In reality, people tend to wear pretty dull clothing unless they're really into fashion and makeup and all that. This isn't a bad thing and that's because it's easier to put on something that's darker to wear than to spend time looking for bright clothes that'll get dirtied up quicker(plus in some cases it's cheaper). In particular, many teenagers who are lazy are probably not going to wear a bunch of bright clothing everyday. It's not that they'll never will, but it's not as normal as you think. But in an animation or comic, you're allowed to take some liberties with this. So what's my point here?

The point is that in reality, to these young artists, yeah it makes sense to wear normal clothes. And sometimes that really helps to ground a character who's supposed to be normal. But that's also a problem in itself. It's boring as hell. The reason why so many character designers like to make such complicated designs isn't as much as functionality as much as it is adding life to a character. Because in real life, no one wears tacky bright clothing all the time. Therefore, when you see a character have this scheme it sticks out more and is memorable to the eye.

This is why so many super hero and magical girl shows use bright, bold color schemes for the characters. It's why you always see the red haired character acting fiery and passionate. It's why you might see a blue character be gloomy and grim. There's a whole psychology to it, but you can basically google, "color theory psychology" and you''ll find out more.

These artists don't seem to understand the nuance of this. AT ALL. For example, Tecna, the pinked haired one, is colored in bright greens and pinks to represent her femininity and interest in technology. Her original design is almost like this gaudy neo-futuristic punk. It's actually quite clever for a show about shilling out toys.

Spoiler: This is her transformed, but still...

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Her newer redesign doesn't stand out as well and tell you much about her personality. She looks bland. That's not fun in a fantasy about transforming into a magic pixie girl. In fact, it destroys the entire point.

Like, I can get wanting to give a character a more "normal" design. I really do. But what's the point of a fantasy, if there is none? A teenager in these shows can wear normal clothes, but they have to be stylized in some way to stand out. When they don't, you get young anime protag brown hair and same facial structure over and over.

See, you understand design theory, none of these guys do!

 

[LucasSomething]

Appeal? What is that???

Spoiler: Screencap Redraw

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To be honest here, i always found Winx bodies uncanny and creepy as hell, as if someone could push them and their torso would snap away from their hips. But this redraw, while not having brownwashing/inflation is still ugly and the clothes have no effect at all. Like, it's subtle but did you know you can tell which girl does what just by their designs?

Blonde girl wears an orange skirt with SUNs(solar) around it, brown haired girl has LEAFs (plant) on her skirt, pink hair girl clothes evoke a neon feel (techno) and blue hair girl looks like a street dancer(music), that leaves RED HAIR girl who uses FIRE.

These redraws make them all look bland and lame, even the red hair girl ins't red haired anymore why would do that? And the other one is wearing a NASA shirt, wtf she is the music girl wtf???

This also goes to a lot of redesigns i see. Even when they're not inherently harmful, they simply don't get the appeal of the original designs.

 

[goodperson]

Appeal? What is that???

Spoiler: Screencap Redraw

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Minor thing that pisses me off here is the height changes. In the original, the blonde is clearly looking down on the redhead. Why swap them? It's so unnecessary. Same goes to the pigtail and brunette girls in the back.
Why remove Musa's pigtails? Why change Techna's hair colour? Had the original not be beside the redrawn, I wouldn't have guessed who they were.
The whole concept of redesigning cartoon or anime characters to be more 'realistic' can be done well, but more often than not it isn't. The main problem with this is because cartoon characters are exaggerations of realism. And when they take back the exaggeration, it just looks... boring.