SJW Art and Extremes

[Tanti-Fanti]

ah yes joulejay I believe is who you are talking about

It is. I remember when the story happened a couple of months ago. Now that was a glorious shitshow. And I think what made it worse was the fact they kept doubling down. And eventually when they tried to delete the post it was too late. Everybody already got a notice of it.

Like, I guess to me, when these people start doubling down, I laugh, but I also cringe on the inside. A part of me does understand what it was like to be a cringy 13 year-old, but at the same time I just feel pity for them. The fact that they're just embarrassing themselves even more makes all this art even worse.

It's basically the same a someone playing a visual novel and choosing every single wrong option leading to a bad end. On the way it's so bad you kind of want to watch, but at the same time, it's really jarring seeing these people defend their shitty habits and off-putting art.

 

[Vault Boy]

they're supposed to be the undertale kids. somehow.

Holy fuck, they look like alien/human hybrids. What the hell was the "artist" smoking when they made this shit?

 

[madethistocomment]

They look like the Eraserhead baby, good God.

 

[One Man Bland]

Since we're talking about our least favorite trends, mine is when they give a canonically white, east asian, or hispanic person super dark skin even if their official design shows otherwise. I can not for the love of me understand why this is a thing. How shallow do you have to be that you can't enjoy a character unless they look like you? (Which they probably don't anyways because the skin tone is really unnatural to say the least).

Any shitty redesign falls into this category too. It's never a natural extension of the character. It's always about how the creator "messed up" because they didn't get what they wanted.

A good tumblr post talked about how these types of people who harrass the creators are never greatful that they (the creators) even decided to go and give them what they want to begin with. They really just want to bring their media back to a point in which they got nothing because it doesn't fit their ship and headcanon.

To add to this, I always find it to be a huge red flag when I hear Tumblr artists and even some professionals use NPC lines like “we need more characters who LOOK like me” or “this is important because there were no characters who LOOKED like us before this.” It’s never about experiences or even culture, it’s always about shallow traits like physical appearance.

It’s also the fastest way to tell if the person saying it is full of shit and their cries of “mug representation” are really about narcissism since not only does it seem to be said exclusively by upper-middle class fuckwads for whom the most interesting thing that happens to them is when they get 5 more likes than usual on Twitter, but their claims that there isn’t “enough” of any given minority flavor of the month is more often than not caused by their own refusal to expand their pallets.

 

[Tanti-Fanti]

To add to this, I always find it to be a huge red flag when I here Tumblr artists and even some professionals use the NPC lines like “we need more characters who LOOK like me” or “this is important because there were no characters who LOOKED like us before this.” It’s never about experiences or even culture, it’s akways about shallow traits like physical appearance.

It’s also the fastest way to tell if the person saying it is full of shit and their cries of “mug representation” are really about narcissism since not only does it seem to be said exclusively by upper-middle class fuckwads for whom the most interesting thing that happens to them is when they get 5 more likes than usual on Twitter, but their claims that there isn’t “enough” of any given minority flavor of the month is more often than not caused by their own refusal to expand their pallets.

That always bothered me too. It's like saying that a person only likes Cyborg from the Original TT because he looked black. Not because of his arc with dealing with his humanity, but because he looked "black enough". It just feels like superficial and kind of creepy. And you're on the mark too. It's never about expressing parts of a culture that are misconstrued. It's about keeping those stereotypes to hide your own insecurities.

There is plenty of minority representation. Just because it's not the most "popular thing" doesn't make it any less deserving of representation. <- This basic concept is too hard for these people to understand. They don't want to look for representation. They want it given to them on a silver platter like a child and if it's not what they want, they throw a tantrum.

These people don't even look at their own cultures to find their own representation. It's like a Japanese person being mad that there isn't more Japanese people on American TV, but instead of making their own story to try and change that, they complain they don't have anything...even when J and K dramas are immensely popular and have a ton of stories that involve Japanese culture. It makes very little sense to me. I'd think the first thing I'd do if I didn't what I see is find something else I'd like, but I guess not.

 

[CandonaiSomthin]

they're supposed to be the undertale kids. somehow.

Oh God, what have they done with Chara's face?? Looks like a turtle's face lol

 

[One Man Bland]

These people don't even look at their own cultures to find their own representation. It's like a Japanese person being mad that there isn't more Japanese people on American TV, but instead of making their own story to try and change that, they complain they don't have anything...even when J and K dramas are immensely popular and have a ton of stories that involve Japanese culture. It makes very little sense to me. I'd think the first thing I'd do if I didn't what I see is find something else I'd like, but I guess not.

It’s because, while these people will likely never admit, they’re culturally American and have next to noting in common with native Japanese, Mexican, etc. people outside of appearance. It’s something you tend to notice if you’ve ever met foreign exchange students vs. X-American demographics. The former don’t give a fuck whether or not they’re featured in any given work of fiction unless it was something that was already ingrained in their culture, and will just continue consuming the media from their homeland. The latter however doesn’t understand that media any better than a milquetoast white American does, but instead of seeing that disconnect as a cultural difference, they’d rather speak over the former group and act as thought they don’t actually realize they’re being oppressed when people don’t think to cast black, Asian, Latino, etc. actors in a series that’s based on European folklore of media that non-Europeans don’t have any cultural connection to. Same thing is why you’ll see incidents where a bunch of Filipino and Korean college students born-and-raised in the west are screaming at elderly Japanese women for not being angrier about white people culturally appropriating kimonos that they were offered to try on.

That is if we’re being generous and assuming everyone who use those lines isn’t a white 20-something chick with a savior complex the size of Alaska.

 

[Names are for the weak]

To add to this, I always find it to be a huge red flag when I hear Tumblr artists and even some professionals use NPC lines like “we need more characters who LOOK like me” or “this is important because there were no characters who LOOKED like us before this.” It’s never about experiences or even culture, it’s always about shallow traits like physical appearance.

I mean, the ability to see yourself represented in fiction is important. However looks are the shallowest part of that. If it's important enough to you see see yourself in a work of ficiton, do what Sugar did. Become a respectable and respected member of whatever community you want to work in, and then create a work that's enjoyable on it's own merits that also happens to contain the representation you want. And yes, I know Steven Universe is a bit contentious, but hey, it's a show a ton of people like for being a good show that also happens to have a lot of LGBT representation in it.

 

[PT 522]

God I just eat up shitty redesigns tho. There are so many in the "steven universe critical" tag and they all exude a stunning lack of willingness to learn even 100-level character design. It's like they heard "a character's appearance should reflect their personality" and then started peeling and sticking random design elements on in a frenzied attempt to make every character trait obvious. So you get a lot of "oh well coprolite mentioned in season 12 episode 4 that she likes to stop and smell the roses so I gave her a big nose for smelling and a boquet."

Bonus points for the "here I fixed the horrible bright colors in this children's tv show!" followed by a picture of the most muddy desaturated mess you've ever seen.

Anyone remember that huge debacle a few months ago over How To Train Your Dragon 3, where every "artist" with a keyboard was complaining that the dragons don't look like real animals?

 

[One Man Bland]

I mean, the ability to see yourself represented in fiction is important. However looks are the shallowest part of that. If it's important enough to you see see yourself in a work of ficiton, do what Sugar did. Become a respectable and respected member of whatever community you want to work in, and then create a work that's enjoyable on it's own merits that also happens to contain the representation you want. And yes, I know Steven Universe is a bit contentious, but hey, it's a show a ton of people like for being a good show that also happens to have a lot of LGBT representation in it.

But that takes having a vision and a strong work ethic, two things that fundamentally boring people who need a collection of colorful but ultimately meaningless identity labels aren’t known to have.

 

[c-no]

Someone noticed their art was on this board.

Makes one wonder if they failed to realize our complaints are more on style, anatomy, and the like than "being gay" or "SJW".

 

[Alberto Balsalm]

Someone noticed their art was on this board.
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Makes one wonder if they failed to realize our complaints are more on style, anatomy, and the like than "being gay" or "SJW".

Who was this person again?

 

[c-no]

Who was this person again?

A person who apparently had their art posted on here (unless there's some other art thread). It may as well be funny to see how many artist react to their art being on Kiwi Farms (unless said post is just more fitting for KF Reviews).

 

[One Man Bland]

Who was this person again?

Found their portfolio. A few samples:



Someone really needs to tell these chucklefucks that it’s really tacky to include fan art in a portfolio supposedly meant to be presented to potential employers. Especially when said fan art isn’t all that impressive to begin with.

 

[c-no]

Found their portfolio. A few samples:

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Someone really needs to tell these chucklefucks that it’s really tacky to include fan art in a portfolio supposedly meant to be presented to potential employers. Especially when said fan art isn’t all that impressive to begin with.

Not even that, the fact he thinks it's all "sjw" when it just look more like bad at worst and meh at best art style. Truly we picked on him because *are gay*.

 

[Valstrax]

Wait, Cirava is non-binary, there is no way they could be a lesbian

Edit: oh look Charun's there too, now we got both characters who I thought were male until Tumblr shoved it in my face

Remember when Lanque was "confirmed" as trans because Tumblr kept bothering WhatPumpkin about it?

 

[PT 522]

Found their portfolio. A few samples:

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Someone really needs to tell these chucklefucks that it’s really tacky to include fan art in a portfolio supposedly meant to be presented to potential employers. Especially when said fan art isn’t all that impressive to begin with.

those shitty, unconfident, formless gestures and rcdart proportions.
Where are they trying to get hired? Or are they counting on a diversity "you're on the team because we needed a token gay, don't touch anything" job?

 

[goatD]

Someone noticed their art was on this board.
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Makes one wonder if they failed to realize our complaints are more on style, anatomy, and the like than "being gay" or "SJW".

thats a pretty sjw mentality, to consider urself being mocked as "being called out"

 

[Valstrax]

Anyway here's a Nep that I found.

 

[One Man Bland]

those shitty, unconfident, formless gestures and rcdart proportions.
Where are they trying to get hired? Or are they counting on a diversity "you're on the team because we needed a token gay, don't touch anything" job?

Considering he plasters “OPEN FOR WORK”/“COMMISSIONS OPEN” all over his social media, I’m willing to bet he describes himself as “freelance” because his portfolio is the type most portfolio reviewers barely glance at before they toss in the trash, so his art career mostly consists of e-begging for commissions and constantly re-posting his own stuff in the vain hope that surely this time he’ll get a nibble and someone will toss him some pity dollars.