SJW Art and Extremes

[Ferls]

Why on earth would you tone down a succubus?

 

[Chan the Wizard]

When I read the first post, I immediately thought of that DC redesign. It's so bland and unimaginative. I actually like seeing how decent artists and writers reimagine characters. Take Bruce Timm's and Paul Dini's Batman animated series. Their version of characters and their original character Harley Quinn were adapted into the comic books.

The SJW designs are just what if they were ugly and showed no part of their body without any regards to the character itself. You can do that and make it work, but it doesn't work if that's your only motivation.

 

[MiloWuCollusion]

Why on earth would you tone down a succubus?

I suppose because it reminds that stuff that they like is not directed to them. Of course, they could ignore it or trying to accept that there will be always different tastes and ,no mathering how inclusive games become, some stuff will annoy you whatever is sexual or not so would be probably be wiser choosing battles and not redesign a monster whose whole purpose is seducing and fucking horny men.

 

[A Random]

I'm not the biggest Guilty Gear fan, but is not the whole point of I-no that she is a evil hedonist slut that perpetually talks in double entendre? Most characters find her destestable in any case so is not exactly a role model, hell, I heard she was designed after a female japanese rock singer so I will guess the whole purpose is be the "purest"rock 'n roll inspired character. Rock in the sense of not giving a shit and have fun.

Why then change her design?

Because she's a 'bad role model' and people shouldn't enjoy her for who she is because she's too attractive, too violent, and perhaps even, too much of a bitch.

Yeah, I went there.

Why on earth would you tone down a succubus?

Because she's a 'bad role model' and people shouldn't enjoy her for who she is because she's too attractive, too forward, and perhaps even, too much of a whore.

Because as we all know, whores are the worst.

 

[MiloWuCollusion]

When I read the first post, I immediately thought of that DC redesign. It's so bland and unimaginative. I actually like seeing how decent artists and writers reimagine characters. Take Bruce Timm's and Paul Dini's Batman animated series. Their version of characters and their original character Harley Quinn were adapted into the comic books.

The SJW designs are just what if they were ugly and showed no part of their body without any regards to the character itself. You can do that and make it work, but it doesn't work if that's your only motivation.

The New 52 stuff is mostly bad in both fronts, thought. Were moments where they tried to appease the vocal SJW crowd (Wonder Woman discussed to hell redesign) and then redesigns that nobody asked like Hallie Berry's Amanda Waller (that is probably the mirror example of the LL stuff I commented, just male 90's trained comic book artist). I blame Dan DiDio

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

Why on earth would you tone down a succubus?

Because tits are a "no no" to these people.

 

[HoloSkull]

I wonder when Soc-Jus Artists will realize that by dressing up their characters they come off more as puritans rather than radical visionaries.
I mean I don't play guilty gear because the characters are down to earth, or for that matter moral.

Spoiler: Guilty Gear Puritan Core

https://kiwifarms.net/media/puritan-core.125/full

I kinda miss the innocence of edge-lord sonic recolors.

 

[Soren]

> That Felicia and Morrigan

Heresy of the highest degree.

I wonder when Soc-Jus Artists will realize that by dressing up their characters they come off more as puritans rather than radical visionaries.

I was just about to say that. Isn't what they're doing, like, literally slut shaming?

 

[Slowboat to China]

I'm torn. On the one hand, I like the idea of more practical costumes; I eyeroll hard when I see action-movie heroines doing all this crazy shit in spike heels and corsets, and if I'm going to cosplay a character, it's nice to have a costume that will actually stay on without massive amounts of double-sided tape and prayer. On the other hand, things like fighting games are very, very over-the-top and stylized, and expecting realism from them is a bit silly. "Well, this character throws magic fireballs and can strangle someone with their own spine, but those boots are going TOO DAMN FAR."

 

[MiloWuCollusion]

I'm torn. On the one hand, I like the idea of more practical costumes; I eyeroll hard when I see action-movie heroines doing all this crazy shit in spike heels and corsets, and if I'm going to cosplay a character, it's nice to have a costume that will actually stay on without massive amounts of double-sided tape and prayer. On the other hand, things like fighting games are very, very over-the-top and stylized, and expecting realism from them is a bit silly. "Well, this character throws magic fireballs and can strangle someone with their own spine, but those boots are going TOO DAMN FAR."

The most of the superhero genre is also like that

 

[Hummingbird]

The New 52 stuff is mostly bad in both fronts, thought. Were moments where they tried to appease the vocal SJW crowd (Wonder Woman discussed to hell redesign) and then redesigns that nobody asked like Hallie Berry's Amanda Waller (that is probably the mirror example of the LL stuff I commented, just male 90's trained comic book artist). I blame Dan DiDio

Ironically, the Amanda Waller redesign was in the opposite direction by making her younger, prettier and a lot thinner. The original was fat, middle-aged and unattractive, but still a great character overall.

 

[ASoulMan]

I hate when people try to redesign characters because they think sexuality is such a horrible thing. Especially if the original character design is supposed to reflect on who said character is supposed to be, like Morrigan for example.

 

[c-no]

I'm not the biggest Guilty Gear fan, but is not the whole point of I-no that she is a evil hedonist slut that perpetually talks in double entendre? Most characters find her destestable in any case so is not exactly a role model, hell, I heard she was designed after a female japanese rock singer so I will guess the whole purpose is be the "purest"rock 'n roll inspired character. Rock in the sense of not giving a shit and have fun.

Why then change her design?

Because her old design would be seen as sexist to SJW's

 

[A Random]

Not 'would be'. Was. Otherwise, why would it even be changed?

 

[Meowthkip]

I hate when people try to redesign characters because they think sexuality is such a horrible thing. Especially if the original character design is supposed to reflect on who said character is supposed to be, like Morrigan for example.

I'd rather go the opposite direction, personally.

Equal number of scantily clad women and men.

We like to be titillated too, dammit.

 

[c-no]

I'd rather go the opposite direction, personally.

Equal number of scantily clad women and men.

We like to be titillated too, dammit.

That can be a good way of being equal, having men also be scantily clad, just like in this video:

 

[FemaleGoodra]

Sadly, that Morrigan is not the worst offender for a succubus design that misses the point of succubi I've seen. The fine folks at Ninja Theory win that award.

No matter how ugly a redesign can get, nothing is worse than when the artist who makes a redesign comes across as thinking that they are superior to whoever designed that character originally. While their are some instances where the redesign may be better than what is officially given, the artist should know better than to run their mouth like that. (Then again, the people who usually do these aren't known for knowing when to keep their mouth shut.)

 

[Coldgrip]

I wasn't sure where to put this, but I've noticed a trend that I like to call Tumblr/SJW Girls.

Tumblr Girls
Traits: The women must usually be of average appearance or lower. Though there is more bodily variety, femininity (unless its Sailor Moon) is usually downplayed. Weird noses and mouths.
Clothes: Armor should not show any hints that they have boobs. Stuff that shows cleavage, femininity (to a lesser extent) or sexuality are no-nos.
Exceptions: Sailor Moon (and the Scouts) are almost always the exception. Even if a cleavage-exposing, skimpier outfit (like Power Girl's boob-window) is in character, it doesn't matter and they'll link to some comic by Aaron Diaz.
The Good: Unlike Escher Girls (the other extreme), who all look like clones, the characters have more variety so I'll give them that.

The reason I bring this all up is for a way to find to see humor, be annoyed and talk about bad designs and ideals behind the Tumblr Girls designs. Here's an example.

Why did they turn Felicia into a nerd? She canonically becomes a nun and takes care of orphans. IIRC in her Darkstalkers 3 ending she's seen wearing a habit and playing with kids. Shouldn't that please SJWs?

 

[Big Nasty]

Cammy and Mai Shiranui have been hit hard by the ugly stick. Cammy appears to have a huge underbite and Mai looks like Fran Drescher.

Also, dem laygins.

 

[ShittyRecolor]

We like to be titillated too, dammit.

I hope this will do the trick: