Skyrim Modding Community - Over a half-decade giving birth to gullible programmers

[NIGGO KILLA]

There was this one incident i remember with a Mod called The Floating Market which is the incident Dynastia was talkin about.

It was made by this cunt named Tarshana. She basically cobbled together other mods into one with permission from the authors

What makes her interesting is the fact that she wants to control who and who cant review her shit

A Skyrim mod channel named MxR covered her mod and in return Tarshana slapped him with a lawsuit and filed an injunction on his channel which left his YouTube job dead in the water. MxR had to settle out of court with Tarshana or likely lose a shit ton of YouTube pennies and go broke

 

[c-no]

There exist a modder named SkyrimGTX. What makes him stand out iirc was that the guy has his own website where one could download his waifu characters. To do that, one had to donate to his pay-pal if they wanted some animu waifu. On top of that, the mods in question are actually stolen in a sense that the guy simply took someones work and made his own edits. Reddit has some threads on him. On the Nexus, he got banned twice (second account was outed as a sock).

https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/3810835-mocaachino2006-banned/
(Second post in this link has a PM where SkyrimGTX tries to threaten a modder)

https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/5et6bf/skyrimgtx_is_at_it_again/
https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/53662k/how_has_skyrimgtx_not_gotten_a_dmca_by_bethesda/

Sometime after being called out, the guy got angry enough that he won't let anyone download his "mods". He has a YT channel by the same name where he uploads videos of his edited mods.

I'm not sure if I should bring up some of the half-finished fetish mods people have made for it. Should I, or are you guys and gals running low on brain bleach?

On one hand, one would fear the cringe that comes from those mods and brain bleach needed for cleaning. Then again, bringing that up does help contribute to the thread in what sort of people consist of being part of the modding community, whether its some modder getting mad over people saying it needs to be cleaned or quitting Skyrim modding because you got pissy over politics.

There was this one incident i remember with a Mod called The Floating Market which is the incident Dynastia was talkin about.

It was made by this cunt named Tarshana. She basically cobbled together other mods into one with permission from the authors

What makes her interesting is the fact that she wants to control who and who cant review her shit

A Skyrim mod channel named MxR covered her mod and in return Tarshana slapped him with a lawsuit and filed an injunction on his channel which left his YouTube job dead in the water. MxR had to settle out of court with Tarshana or likely lose a shit ton of YouTube pennies and go broke

Sueing a guy over a stupid mod review. Tarshana is getting free advertising for her mod and yet she has to be exceptional and try to act as a gatekeeper in how people review her mod, especially if MxR did give her a good review.

 

[Really makes you thunk]

I'm not really immersed enough in the community to inform of anything that hasn't already been said here. I just want to reiterate that NovaJam is a gem. Pls come back.

Spoiler

 

[Computery Guy]

I'm gonna freely admit, I only really know Skyrim modding for the graphics mods, and the smut. Mostly 'cause I know a guy online who can't shut the fuck up about either.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

I'm gonna freely admit, I only really know Skyrim modding for the graphics mods, and the smut. Mostly 'cause I know a guy online who can't shut the fuck up about either.

Why do you keep talking to him, then?

 

[GethN7]

Speaking of Skyrim modding drama, the guy who made "Civil War Overhaul" is what happens when SJWism and modding smash into brick walls. It's mentioned in the OP, but I'm gonna flesh it out a bit.

"Civil War Overhaul" is a mod for "Oldrim" that fleshes out the simplistic Civil War mode that was somewhat barebones in the stock game, using a combination of custom scripting and re-enabled code left in the game to make it more immersive. I've used it, and I'll give the guy credit, it did make the Civil War aspect way less boring.

Problem is, he just couldn't divorce his IRL politics from his modding, and he got some heat for trying to "diversify" Skyrim with more race representation even though it was the home of the Nords and some people went off half cocked about how it was shoving identity politics into a fantasy setting and breaking lore. Modding any game is arguably changing it's basic intentions to begin with anyway, unless you are merely re-adding content that was broken or disabled in the original game that was intended to be part of it to begin with, so this, while nitpicky if you ask me, was an issue of minor concern at one point because lore nerds did have a minor point here, especially because he wanted to shove this into CWO as a basic feature and not as an option and he threw a fit when people complained.

The part that was totally childish was the fact the creator took down all his mods and to this day has refused to put them up ever since Donald Trump won the presidency, and not having his mods available on the Nexus anymore is his idea of political protest, even though a more effective means of protest would be doing IRL things to support his preferred political party and/or criticizing Trump's activities as POTUS.

 

[WeeGee]

I recall alot of these people going berserk over their mods being ported to console without consent.

 

[Sunflower Overseer]

I recall alot of these people going berserk over their mods being ported to console without consent.

That was Fallout 4 on early 2016, when SSE came around the entire mess was partially solved.

 

[WeeGee]

That was Fallout 4 on early 2016, when SSE came around the entire mess was partially solved.

Oh yeah, I forgot. If anything the Fallout modding commuiny isn't much different.

 

[GethN7]

I recall alot of these people going berserk over their mods being ported to console without consent.

Actually, they've got a fair amount of reason to be pissed.

Bethseda's early in-house mod support basically had no filters and lots of scummy people were uploading other people's stuff to consoles as their own, and legit PC modders were getting mad because it was hard to report these thieves.

By SSE, they had gotten fairly good at clamping down on these idiots and reporting them.

Bethseda never fully recovered from the whole "paid mods" fiasco, and has sown a fair amount of distrust to this day regarding any mod services they provide and/or support, so even now many modders are really edgy of consoles ripping off their work and will refuse to allow it to be uploaded to Bethseda.net.

As a modder myself, I'm sympathetic to the argument of not wanting to be ripped off, but I'm the type who doesn't care who ports my stuff or where you do it so long as you credit me first, so it's not that big a concern for me.

 

[c-no]

Speaking of Skyrim modding drama, the guy who made "Civil War Overhaul" is what happens when SJWism and modding smash into brick walls. It's mentioned in the OP, but I'm gonna flesh it out a bit.

"Civil War Overhaul" is a mod for "Oldrim" that fleshes out the simplistic Civil War mode that was somewhat barebones in the stock game, using a combination of custom scripting and re-enabled code left in the game to make it more immersive. I've used it, and I'll give the guy credit, it did make the Civil War aspect way less boring.

Problem is, he just couldn't divorce his IRL politics from his modding, and he got some heat for trying to "diversify" Skyrim with more race representation even though it was the home of the Nords and some people went off half cocked about how it was shoving identity politics into a fantasy setting and breaking lore. Modding any game is arguably changing it's basic intentions to begin with anyway, unless you are merely re-adding content that was broken or disabled in the original game that was intended to be part of it to begin with, so this, while nitpicky if you ask me, was an issue of minor concern at one point because lore nerds did have a minor point here, especially because he wanted to shove this into CWO as a basic feature and not as an option and he threw a fit when people complained.

The part that was totally childish was the fact the creator took down all his mods and to this day has refused to put them up ever since Donald Trump won the presidency, and not having his mods available on the Nexus anymore is his idea of political protest, even though a more effective means of protest would be doing IRL things to support his preferred political party and/or criticizing Trump's activities as POTUS.

If you mean ApolloDown, @King n Yellow already mentioned him. That aside, much as how mods can be fun and don't have to adhere to lore, quitting the modding scene simply because a businessman became the new American overlord is worthy of mockery. Much as how he could be depriving people of his mods because of a hissy fit to Trump winning the elections, not much value is lost if they're all really just mediocre, especially if they can cause bloat and need to be cleaned.

 

[Francine StripeCheer]

amazing voice acting

Almost as good as Oblivion...

 

[StraightShooter]

There exist a modder named SkyrimGTX. What makes him stand out iirc was that the guy has his own website where one could download his waifu characters. To do that, one had to donate to his pay-pal if they wanted some animu waifu. On top of that, the mods in question are actually stolen in a sense that the guy simply took someones work and made his own edits. Reddit has some threads on him. On the Nexus, he got banned twice (second account was outed as a sock).

https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/3810835-mocaachino2006-banned/
(Second post in this link has a PM where SkyrimGTX tries to threaten a modder)

https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/5et6bf/skyrimgtx_is_at_it_again/
https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/53662k/how_has_skyrimgtx_not_gotten_a_dmca_by_bethesda/

Sometime after being called out, the guy got angry enough that he won't let anyone download his "mods". He has a YT channel by the same name where he uploads videos of his edited mods.


On one hand, one would fear the cringe that comes from those mods and brain bleach needed for cleaning. Then again, bringing that up does help contribute to the thread in what sort of people consist of being part of the modding community, whether its some modder getting mad over people saying it needs to be cleaned or quitting Skyrim modding because you got pissy over politics.


Sueing a guy over a stupid mod review. Tarshana is getting free advertising for her mod and yet she has to be exceptional and try to act as a gatekeeper in how people review her mod, especially if MxR did give her a good review.

I'm not an expert on the modding community, but how can someone who builds mods for a licensed game be able to sue anyone unless it was officially licensed by Bethseda, because Bethseda is the legal owner of the content, right? That would be like someone writing Harry Potter fan fiction and then trying to sue someone for plagiarism.

 

[Aquinas]

How can someone who used content MADE by others do it aswell?

 

[GethN7]

I'm not an expert on the modding community, but how can someone who builds mods for a licensed game be able to sue anyone unless it was officially licensed by Bethseda, because Bethseda is the legal owner of the content, right? That would be like someone writing Harry Potter fan fiction and then trying to sue someone for plagiarism.

Well, it's a bit complicated, but it works like this.

Presuming you own a legit copy of the game, you can use any of the files that came with the game as a base for your own modifications, provided you credit Bethseda. It's even possible to do so for profit, but Bethseda still must be credited, and depending on the type of mod, you might have to work out commercial rights with Bethseda themselves, especially if your mod is a 'Total Conversion" mod that uses many heavily edited licensed assets, but there haven't been many cases of this actually happening, so I don't know the legal specifics.

If you use all original assets not connected to the base files of the Bethseda game, you have a lot more leeway since all you are really doing is using their engine to render the content. In this case, you'd have the strongest case to sue since you own the mod contents in their entirety.

About the only time I've seen Bethseda get downright edgy over copyright and commercial rights is people attempting to source port their products, like in the case of the DaggerXL engine and OpenMW.

The former isn't really an issue, since Bethseda themselves lost the source code to Daggerfall and thus the DaggerXL engine basically has to build everything to duplicate the original executable did from scratch. OpenMW was a bit of a touchier issue, since Bethseda still had the source code for Morrowind, but the OpenMW devs smoothed that over by specifying to Bethseda it was a free, open source program that used no executable code from the original game, and it would not be available for any platform save desktop/laptop computers (they were forbidden to port to any form of console, or stuff like Android). In the case of both engines, neither dev team charges a dime for them, and you still have to purchase a legally licensed copy of the games in question from Bethseda to use the engines in the first place.

 

[GrandTheftAutism]

Good to see modding drama isn't confined to the Sims community. Ugh.

This is the kind of shit that just put me off even using mods for most games.

 

[Aquinas]

Honestly, might be better to make this more of a general modding drama thread, since Minecraft also has its spergs
like the dude who's mod fucks up you install if it detects its being used with some other dudes mod.

 

[Lackadaisy]

Good to see modding drama isn't confined to the Sims community. Ugh.

This is the kind of shit that just put me off even using mods for most games.

The Sims modding community is 60% women, 30% teenaged girls, and 10% creepy pedophiles. All of whom love whining and bitching about each other. It's great, really.

 

[giga]

Honestly, might be better to make this more of a general modding drama thread, since Minecraft also has its spergs
like the dude who's mod fucks up you install if it detects its being used with some other dudes mod.

Yeah, I agree. I wanna see how much of a cesspool the Minecraft and Sims 4 modding communities are.

 

[Xenomorph]

What about the chick from Nexus Elianora or the Dark One, Trainwiz drama and the whole /tesg/ crew

NovaJam got scared off because /tesg/ spergs gave him shit for Summerset Isles mod and his review of it when it turned out to be a shit mod he was crucified for saying it was a good mod because people claim he was paid for his review. I liked him personally and he made funny videos but the autism within the community runs a bit too deep when it comes to Skyrim it's clearly serious business to a lot of people. I personally dont understand how people get that attached.

lest we forget the famous horse vagina mod:

Spoiler: spoiler: nsfl

Why did I need to see Garys Real Mares here.. god damnit I should know better