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[Ca Ira]

SlutHate's etre d'raison is to understand the economical basis for interpersonal, sexual or otherwise between men and women.

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[Kitlen]

This "TomCruise" fellow seems to be popular and prolific in the community (not surprising given Tom Cruise's penchants for idiotic cults). From doing minimal digging, it appears that they believe everything comes down to physical attributes rather than personality. Also, if anyone has a membership, there is a Confirmed Females section, that would be interesting to get some of their POV.

 

[ChuckSlaughter]

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This "TomCruise" fellow seems to be popular and prolific in the community (not surprising given Tom Cruise's penchants for idiotic cults). From doing minimal digging, it appears that they believe everything comes down to physical attributes rather than personality. Also, if anyone has a membership, there is a Confirmed Females section, that would be interesting to get some of their POV.

I think this is their reaction after discovering that PUA seduction techniques will not allow you to sleep with any woman just by saying the right shit and in fact hardly work at all. Of course despite this many of them still ask is XXXXXXX dude's course the real deal?

Most of them aren't even ugly they just cant figure out why girls avoid them which probably actually varies from crazy eyes to just not going places where you can meet women. Course they talk to each other and feel theyre all suffering from the same problems.

 

[A-№1]

Apparently I missed out on some quality spergery in this thread. I always miss out on the best spergery.

I find it odd how they continually mention height as a prime factor in being attractive.

Well to be fair, a lot of women have an arbitrary height standard for men just as a lot of men have an arbitrary weight standard for women. Everyone has things they are attracted to and things they are not attracted to, be it height, weight, breast size, facial hair, or whatever. There's no accounting for taste.

The problem these twits have is they see that arbitrary height standard some women have as a huge issue to whine about, and oh do they ever like to whine, instead of seeing it as a challenge to overcome. That or they, themselves have some arbitrary need to be taller than any women they might, by some miracle, date because in their minds it somehow makes them superior. I don't know. All I do know is they will never know the advantages to dating a much taller woman.

I think this is their reaction after discovering that PUA seduction techniques will not allow you to sleep with any woman just by saying the right shit and in fact hardly work at all.

Admittedly I know nothing about PUA teachings, but I somehow suspect that a lot of PUA success is based on simple determination and repetition, and I would be surprised if actual PUAs don't admit that. If one of their tricks only works on one percent of women, then it has to be tried on a hundred women for it to work. The sluthaters' problem is that they don't want to put in the effort.

Of course it is possible that the PUAs do claim that their methods work on all women everywhere every time, but if that's they case, then they're simply liars.

 

[ADamnDjinn]

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This "TomCruise" fellow seems to be popular and prolific in the community (not surprising given Tom Cruise's penchants for idiotic cults). From doing minimal digging, it appears that they believe everything comes down to physical attributes rather than personality. Also, if anyone has a membership, there is a Confirmed Females section, that would be interesting to get some of their POV.

When I saw "TomCruise", I thought of the old 789chan poster, but I guess it probably isn't him.

 

[fokkertism]

PUAHate and SlutHate are not manosphere sites.

 

[Meowthkip]

PUAHate and SlutHate are not manosphere sites.

You say "tomato," I say "what's the fucking difference?"

 

[Durable Mike Malloy]

PUAHate and SlutHate are not manosphere sites.

What is the distinction, then?

 

[Beef Thunderpants]

I tried to open their main page from my iPad but it wouldn't load, then a day later I tried on my computer and it said my IP was banned. Was it because I was directed from here?

 

[Treblinkachu]

I find it odd how they continually mention height as a prime factor in being attractive.

They seem to be fixated on this as an easy measurement.

Weird.

I once dated a guy who was 6 foot 8. He had hands that could probably have crushed my skull. His biceps were big enough for me to hang off of. His penis was enormous. I think he had a growth hormone disorder or something. But more importantly, he was also really nice and didn't act entitled to the relationship/the sex we had. If he had been one of these toxic pieces of shit, there's no way I would have spent more than a single evening with him, if even that. I don't honestly care how hot a guy is if they're an unpleasant douche who thinks everything is about them. Most other women I know don't care either, and the ones who are willing to put up with it are either emotionally unstable wrecks or riddled with venereal diseases.

 

[ChuckSlaughter]

Admittedly I know nothing about PUA teachings, but I somehow suspect that a lot of PUA success is based on simple determination and repetition, and I would be surprised if actual PUAs don't admit that. If one of their tricks only works on one percent of women, then it has to be tried on a hundred women for it to work. The sluthaters' problem is that they don't want to put in the effort.

Yes the only thing I hear these guys say on he money is common sense stuff look nice, actually try to meet women. That's about it. Many of them do just hit on every woman they encounter.

Of course it is possible that the PUAs do claim that their methods work on all women everywhere every time, but if that's they case, then they're simply liars.

They are simply liars, figure the sort of personality who says he knows what magic shit to tell a woman so you can get what you want from her. Now figure that he's probably telling you what you want to hear to get the money he wants from you. It's not rocket science but these guys don't get it.

Actually I've trolled PUAs a few times you get banned pretty quick if youre not subtle but they're hilarious, lots of very insecure toughguys, loveshys, psychopaths, and straight up mentally ill folks. All you have to do is tell them you found a routine that has gotten you 5 strippers numbers at 3 different clubs 3 nights in a row and you'll tell them when you're done and then just stir the pot. Similarly their pickup stories are always obviously very fake or awkward.

Beware though I find to much interaction with them to be toxic to my own personality.

 

[Uzumaki]

What is the distinction, then?

Well, you see, the people who live in Scotland but disagree with him aren't true scotsmen.

 

[A-№1]

PUAHate and SlutHate are not manosphere sites.

Before you can defend your position you're first going to have to define your terms. I know what PUAs are, and sluthate is the topic of this thread, but what the fuck are man spheres? They can't be what I'm thinking.

Yes the only thing I hear these guys say on he money is common sense stuff look nice, actually try to meet women. That's about it. Many of them do just hit on every woman they encounter.

Which in itself is a process of diminishing returns. Generally it's the guy at the party who hits on everything with legs that ends up going home alone. I suspect that alcohol, low standards, and morning remorse also have a lot to do with their "successes".

They are simply liars, figure the sort of personality who says he knows what magic shit to tell a woman so you can get what you want from her.

Well to be fair, there are some magic phrases that do work to get what you want from women. It just depends on what you want. For example, if you tell a woman: "I would very much like a slice of pie," when you want pie, quite often she will bring you pie. Now I'm not saying this works with all women all the time. You can't just ask every woman you see for pie; you have to me more selective. Applied judiciously it does work though, especially if she's a waitress. And the restaurant serves pie. But sometimes it works in other situations too. Pie is delicious.

Wait, what were we talking about? Mmmmm. Pie.

Now figure that he's probably telling you what you want to hear to get the money he wants from you.

OK, now I'm confused again. What money would a PUA be expecting from me?

It's not rocket science but these guys don't get it.

I have to laugh every time I hear that expression, but yeah, it's not rocket science. For one thing, rocket science really is a matter of numbers and measurements like these twits think relationships are.

All you have to do is tell them you found a routine that has gotten you 5 strippers numbers at 3 different clubs 3 nights in a row and you'll tell them when you're done and then just stir the pot. Similarly their pickup stories are always obviously very fake or awkward.

So wait, these guys' goal is just to get women's phone numbers?

 

[Uzumaki]

OK, now I'm confused again. What money would a PUA be expecting from me?

He's talking about the people teaching the pick up artists all their advanced pick up artistry. What, you didn't think those kinds of incredible seduction techniques were free did you?

Edit: apropos of nothing I was exposed to the idea of PUA by reading the book The Game, so for me all this shit is like a novel came to life

So wait, these guys' goal is just to get women's phone numbers?

I don't mean to be a dick but are you being deliberately obtuse here? They want the numbers so they can call them in the hopes that they will fuck them.

 

[A-№1]

He's talking about the people teaching the pick up artists all their advanced pick up artistry. What, you didn't think those kinds of incredible seduction techniques were free did you?

Seriously? People actually pay to hear this kind of jackassery? That's just… sad on so many levels. I can't begin to imagine the level of ignorant desperation that would lead to that.

Edit: apropos of nothing I was exposed to the idea of PUA by reading the book The Game, so for me all this shit is like a novel came to life

Yeah, those books have been out there since at least the '60s, and probably much earlier than that. Hell, for all we know some of the erotic cave drawings out there are neolithic PUA tracts. But I was under the impression that apart from a few schmucks trying to pimp their books the pick up artist "community" was just a bunch of braggarts boasting of their sad conquests on various online forums. Now that I google the term, you're right. People do actually pay to attend seminars on this stuff. I guess there's one born every minute.

I don't mean to be a dick but are you being deliberately obtuse here? They want the numbers so they can call them. And then fuck them. Duh.

What I was getting at is they are setting the bar very low there if that's what they consider a "success". I suspect it's actually fairly easy to pester some poor woman into giving you a phone number (whether or not it's actually hers…), so that seems a easy way for these schmucks to artificially inflate their "success" rate. As you point out there's a lot more to things beyond a simple phone number, but I'm wondering if they could be quietly ignoring all that just to pretend to be more successful.

 

[Uzumaki]

Yeah, those books have been out there since at least the '60s,

The Game is a book about PUA, not a how-to manual for PUA. It's the autobiography of one of the ex-main guys in the movement, to hear him tell it.

 

[A-№1]

The Game is a book about PUA, not a how-to manual for PUA. It's the autobiography of one of the ex-main guys in the movement, to hear him tell it.

Ah. Thanks for the clarification. I assumed it was just another one of those ridiculous "how to seduce women" books or at most some stupid, unhelpful "self help" book full of crazy like The Secret and Dianetics.

Also when did PUAs become a movement? Do they really have an agenda beyond pretending to themselves and each other about getting laid?

 

[Uzumaki]

Also when did PUAs become a movement?

The Game came out in 2005 and gave it a huge popularity boost, but to have even been able to write the damn thing there needed to be enough of a community for the author and all the other main players to have been making a living teaching it for years. So... early 2000s?

Do they really have an agenda beyond pretending to themselves and each other about getting laid?

Well they're hoping to actually get laid. Pretending is just the next best thing.

Edit: I'm pretty sure all the people pretending online are under the impression that it's working for everyone else, and they're just bullshitting until they finally master the magic spell that will trick women into sleeping with them.

I'll get you next time, Gadget. Next time.

 

[ChuckSlaughter]

Which in itself is a process of diminishing returns. Generally it's the guy at the party who hits on everything with legs that ends up going home alone. I suspect that alcohol, low standards, and morning remorse also have a lot to do with their "successes".

Woah buddy watch it you're describing me! Oddly enough it's popular sentiment in that community that you should drink no alcohol and you should get the woman to drink. Also they think dancing is for losers. Some of their stuff I at least can see why they think it but I'm pretty sure girls like drunk guys who can dance. They have other odd ideas but I can't remember them.

OK, now I'm confused again. What money would a PUA be expecting from me?

I have to laugh every time I hear that expression, but yeah, it's not rocket science. For one thing, rocket science really is a matter of numbers and measurements like these twits think relationships are.

So the puas have their celebrities who run very expensive classes to meet women. Usually advertised with extraordinary claims and totally real not staged videos of men just walking up to girls randomly on the street and successfully engaging them.
They think in terms of manipulation so just as all their courses are about manipulating women.. their real objective is to manipulate their customers. "Tell people what they want to hear to get what you want"

So wait, these guys' goal is just to get women's phone numbers?

Well they see it as a step toward sleeping with them and they brag to each other about it. They call it closing. "I got numbers close", I think they have "fuck close" and some others. They're very cultish with the lingo.
But yeah they practically piss themselves with happiness if they waste a whole saturday night butt sober walking from drunk girl to drunk girl at a dance club and manage to get a few phone numbers.

Addition: The game is totally just another PUA manual It's disguised as something else but it's mostly fiction mixed in with the braggings of rich well connected men in the LA social scene. I only skim read it but it's just another attempt to get cash and hopefully get you to sign up for mystery's courses. Also pua and mystery started on usenet from guys trading stories about what works with women.

This guy on usenet telling you how to get laid

 

[A-№1]

The Game came out in 2005 and gave it a huge popularity boost, but to have even been able to write the damn thing there needed to be enough of a community for the author and all the other main players to have been making a living teaching it for years. So... early 2000s?

I'm not sure if there's enough to really call them a movement, though. I mean the Civil Rights Movement was a thing. Also the Green Movement. And Gay Marriage. And so on. But unless the PUAs have some sort of overall communal agenda beyond each of them individually wanting easy sexual gratification, they're probably just a community.

I guess what I'm asking is if they actually do have some sort of general social or political agenda. The ravings of individual crazies demanding government funded prostitutes for incels doesn't count.

Well they're hoping to actually get laid. Pretending is just the next best thing.

And pretending has the advantage that you don't have to leave your room to do it. Of course abolition would never have gotten anywhere if they'd only stayed in their rooms.

Edit: I'm pretty sure all the people pretending online are under the impression that it's working for everyone else, and they're just bullshitting until they finally master the magic spell that will trick women into sleeping with them.

I was thinking that was the entirety of PUAdom until you and Chuck mentioned them paying to learn their "magic".

Oddly enough it's popular sentiment in that community that you should drink no alcohol and you should get the woman to drink.

Damn. That's fucking sleazy. Also breaking Feynman's Law. I'm almost surprised they would miss that, but then I remember they're idiots.

Doubtless this idiocy only provides fodder for those "rape culture" fuckwits in the feminist camp.

Usually advertised with extraordinary claims and totally real not staged videos of men just walking up to girls randomly on the street and successfully engaging them.

I guess I can assume their personal definition for "engaging" a random woman on the street means more than just talking to her, which is easy, but less than putting a ring on her finger, which would be insane.

Well they see it as a step toward sleeping with them and they brag to each other about it. They call it closing. "I got numbers close", I think they have "fuck close" and some others. They're very cultish with the lingo.

I'm going to go out on a limb and assume they don't have a "get a fucking life close".

But yeah they practically piss themselves with happiness if they waste a whole saturday night butt sober walking from drunk girl to drunk girl at a dance club and manage to get a few phone numbers.

Because there's nothing a woman likes more than a random phone call from some random asshat she doesn't remember because she was drunk off her ass at the time. Of course that's assuming these PUAs actually have the guts to make the call.

Someone needs to publish a list of amusing phones numbers for women to give them.