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Alpha Kennybody said:
you say this, but chris can drive a car (barely), and probably do the most basic of cooking and cleaning like operating a microwave. On the spectrum, chris is near the top. Doesn't say much for Chris though, just that he's a whale swimming at the top of the Mariana Trench, and there's ample spastics above and many many more below him. I think a lot of problems with Chris are also not just his autism, but that he's a disgusting and lazy human being that likes to blame shit on his autism. He's never had:

1) firm parents that say No
2) a good ass whooping off a school bully that one time
3) a good ass whooping out of school
4) The law coming down HARD.

These can be vital to learning limits and what not to cross. So though he's an autistic, there's no way he doesn't understand dogs need exercise and a place to move about. It's just that he doesn't want to, because he's lazy. If he thought there was a chance to get some pussy at the end of it, he'd walk Snoopy coast to coast.
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I disagree about the thing about the law not coming down hard. The macing incident legit had cops arrest him (we even have the police blotter recording informing officers to be on the lookout for him) and he spent 24 hours in jail or thereabouts until Barb had to bail him out.

To date, Chris has not spoken a word of the experience. Not that I expect much happened, he probably just sat and moped in a drunk tank cell, but simply being there must have been traumatic. It was, even more than running Snyder over with a fucking van (since Barb took the hit on that while Chris basically got off scot-free), possibly the first time Chris ever actually was held accountable for his actions and his mental handicap couldn't protect him. Ever since he's steered clear of in-person confrontation and chosen indirect action like how he sent a glitter bomb to The End Games.

horrorfan89 said:
This this right here is why Chris just sickens me. He couldn't leave well enough alone and stop with "muh dog is red, please gimmie a day or so to say goodbye and mourn." He not only has to make it all about himself but bring up "da merge" and his moronic idea of his dog being alive again in his little fantasyland.

I'm legit dreading the day Barb dies and Chris goes on and on about he considers her the "virgin Mary" who gave the cosmic goddess that is CPU blue heart life in 1218 or some shit like that coupled with how she and bobchu are finally reuinted.
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I believe that Chris simply can't handle reality anymore (and Barb hasn't even croaked yet). CWCville/The Merge has become his desperate autistic bid to try and psychologically reconcile shit not going his way, unlike what he remembers most of his childhood as being (the graduation not showering him with awards he didn't earn notwithstanding). He can't control this world (I think he's given up on the psychic powers bullshit right?) but he'll damn well try to make the next one created in his own image.
 
Optimus Prime said:
I disagree about the thing about the law not coming down hard. The macing incident legit had cops arrest him (we even have the police blotter recording informing officers to be on the lookout for him) and he spent 24 hours in jail or thereabouts until Barb had to bail him out.

To date, Chris has not spoken a word of the experience. Not that I expect much happened, he probably just sat and moped in a drunk tank cell, but simply being there must have been traumatic. It was, even more than running Snyder over with a fucking van (since Barb took the hit on that while Chris basically got off scot-free), possibly the first time Chris ever actually was held accountable for his actions and his mental handicap couldn't protect him. Ever since he's steered clear of in-person confrontation and chosen indirect action like how he sent a glitter bomb to The End Games.
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Sort of. But what I mean is, had it been you, me, or Joe Normal who'd done vehicular assault to Snyder, almost ran over a cop, had all of this debt, pepper sprayed gamestop staff... we'd have been crucified thrice over. Even when he gets his comeuppance it's far less than what we'd receive. He might be indoors, but this is chris anyway: the reclusive coward content to hide under his mother's skirt in his nest of toys. He was like this prior to the Gamestop incident: it's just given him more of an excuse to stay at home. Also keep in mind when he was released after the Gamestop incident, he protested his innocence, accused them of backing him into a corner, and bullying him. He might have learned a lesson from all of this, but as you say with the glitter bomb, the lesson was not 'actions have consequences' but to be more sly.
 
Alpha Kennybody said:
Sort of. But what I mean is, had it been you, me, or Joe Normal who'd done vehicular assault to Snyder, almost ran over a cop, had all of this debt, pepper sprayed gamestop staff... we'd have been crucified thrice over. Even when he gets his comeuppance it's far less than what we'd receive. He might be indoors, but this is chris anyway: the reclusive coward content to hide under his mother's skirt in his nest of toys. He was like this prior to the Gamestop incident: it's just given him more of an excuse to stay at home. Also keep in mind when he was released after the Gamestop incident, he protested his innocence, accused them of backing him into a corner, and bullying him. He might have learned a lesson from all of this, but as you say with the glitter bomb, the lesson was not 'actions have consequences' but to be more sly.
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While true, the fact he got punished at all by getting thrown into jail, something that is ingrained to us at a young age as something you do not want happening because of the implications, was more than he'd ever had to endure before, especially since his usual defense of making shit up and people just not wanting to deal with him completely failed to protect him this time. Sure in terms of proportion to what normal, adjusted members of society would deal with, he got off with a slap on the wrist, but proportionally to what Chris has experienced, he might as well have been put in a Soviet work camp compared to the non-punishment he's gotten in the past.
 
Optimus Prime said:
While true, the fact he got punished at all by getting thrown into jail, something that is ingrained to us at a young age as something you do not want happening because of the implications, was more than he'd ever had to endure before, especially since his usual defense of making shit up and people just not wanting to deal with him completely failed to protect him this time. Sure in terms of proportion to what normal, adjusted members of society would deal with, he got off with a slap on the wrist, but proportionally to what Chris has experienced, he might as well have been put in a Soviet work camp compared to the non-punishment he's gotten in the past.
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so to compromise, we agree he was punished, and it had a lasting impact on him, but the lesson learned was the wrong one and the law should have come down at least a -little bit- harder? For Chris and Society's benefit?
 
Alpha Kennybody said:
so to compromise, we agree he was punished, and it had a lasting impact on him, but the lesson learned was the wrong one and the law should have come down at least a -little bit- harder? For Chris and Society's benefit?
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Agreed.

Unfortunately, the reality is that Chris really doesn't have a way to be punished that would teach him the right lessons. He is still a child where the lessons learned is how NOT to get in trouble as opposed to maturing and understanding that lashing out like a dumbfuck is idiotic. The only way to hit him where it hurts is for the consequences to throw his precious CWCille/C-137 plan into dissaray. And to date the only way this has been intentionally wrecked was through Simonla where Chris Catch-22'd himself into a negative feedback loop by killing a character and thus violated his own internal logic.

I don't think this could be repeated as Chris simply doubles down every successive time his personal future reality is challenged by common sense and things he has no control over. Even back in a jail cell for any amount of time wouldn't fix him now.
 
Optimus Prime said:
Unfortunately, the reality is that Chris really doesn't have a way to be punished that would teach him the right lessons.
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Welcome to reality. The world is full of penological bullshit. It's really good at smacking the shit out of you and telling you "don't do THIS!" And it's really lean on "do THIS instead."

This isn't really great for the huge population of people who do the "don't do THIS" shit and actually don't know the "do THIS instead" alternative. They just get smacked, they don't really get that there is an alternative.
 
horrorfan89 said:
This this right here is why Chris just sickens me. He couldn't leave well enough alone and stop with "muh dog is red, please gimmie a day or so to say goodbye and mourn." He not only has to make it all about himself but bring up "da merge" and his moronic idea of his dog being alive again in his little fantasyland.
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Not only this, but I feel like it highlights Chris's delusions of himself as being some sort of 'martyr for the cause' or tortured soul who works against adversity for the greater good.
 
High functioning autist just means an autist that can talk and use the toilet most of the time. Some tards are so tarded they can't even talk and go in circles until fed.

Chris somewhat manages to accomplish both, if not perfectly.

As to the dog, it is really sad. While I am sure Chris is at some fault here at least, dogs can really die young even if you splurge money on routine all around checkups and the best food you can get your hands on.

It can also be very sudden. Vet out of town, you are FUCKED, your best hope is to drive a hundred kilometers to an all night clinic which... doesn't do much, but well at least painkillers were involved.

Chris got over it fast, but he is an autistic retard and honestly I do not begrudge him this. I spent a quarter of a year just laying on my bed when I was not at work. Couldn't even be arsed to give a fuck about the whole Biden cucking Trump thing.
 
Male Idiot said:
High functioning autist just means an autist that can talk and use the toilet most of the time. Some tards are so tarded they can't even talk and go in circles until fed.

Chris somewhat manages to accomplish both, if not perfectly.

As to the dog, it is really sad. While I am sure Chris is at some fault here at least, dogs can really die young even if you splurge money on routine all around checkups and the best food you can get your hands on.

It can also be very sudden. Vet out of town, you are FUCKED, your best hope is to drive a hundred kilometers to an all night clinic which... doesn't do much, but well at least painkillers were involved.

Chris got over it fast, but he is an autistic retard and honestly I do not begrudge him this. I spent a quarter of a year just laying on my bed when I was not at work. Couldn't even be arsed to give a fuck about the whole Biden cucking Trump thing.
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if I can sum up chris with dogs, it's when Patti goes to sleep.

When Patti was brought to the vet on that faithful day, I was distraught with fright and concern for her health. I stayed with her during her final moments with a hand on her head and a tear in my eye. When my mother was brought the paper that gave the doctor permission to send her on her way, I didn't want her to be the one to sign it. I raised Patti since she was a six-week old pup, and I wanted to take the strain for signing the one-way ticket (it was hard for me, but it was for the best). So I signed that paper, with a crying Sonichu face saying, "We love you, Patti." After that, I gave her my final pets, hug, hand-to-paw hold, eye-contact, ear-rub, cheek-to-fur rub, and I sadly waved her for the final time, and I said, "Good Bye, Patti, I Love You." As I stood outside, I heard Patti's last barks saying, "I will always love you, Chris. Thank You."

Firstly, Chris makes it about him. The dog's last words are 'chris you're amazeballs.'

Secondly, he says he stayed with her and from the sounds of it, engaged in intense foreplay, prior to the dog's peaceful departure. He also says he was outside as the dog barked. When you put a dog to sleep, if you're not there with it, the poor thing is terrified. It'll be in a vet, a place associated with pain. It will remember the smell of anaesthetics, disinfectants, the doctor's clothes, and associate it with bad things. If you leave the dog to the vets (not uncommon to do as it's a traumatic experience for the owner too), the dog will be extremely terrified, as it's alone, its owner is gone, and the last thing it saw of its owner was tears. Patti's final words weren't 'Hail Chris Chan, saviour of the universe' but "No please! Don't leave me! I want to go with you!"

Patti was the childhood pet he loved the most, and though I can believe he was sad when alone, the second it comes to retelling the tale it is with pure hubris. With Snoopy, a dog he seemed to loathe, I can honestly believe he felt nothing, and now is wondering how to milk it for sympathy and social media likes.
 
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Alpha Kennybody said:
I think you're selling Chris way too short, American Hedgehog. I admire your faith in the human and Sonichu spirit, but I'm not trusting chris to be that... dare I say it... NAIVE! He knows a dog should be walked, fed properly, etc. Now a lot of the blame comes from Barb, but he's in this too. The truth is a dog is hard work, and he doesn't want that. Neither of them want to walk the dog, pick up its mess, or reliably take it for vet bills. It would involve both going outside and moving without a vehicle. In a nutshell, there's ample blame for both their lazy asses.
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At some point Barb didn't want the dogs to be taken outside because of how unsocialized they got. @LoveYouLongTime mentioned it in a couple posts.

Sure, the dogs wouldn't have gotten to that point if they'd been walked more often. It's just hazy how much of that is from Barb's policies and how much from Chris's laziness. Like did Barb allow Chris to walk the dogs on his own?

Mr. 0 said:
If Chris is removed from the equation, there is no Clover or Snoopy. You think Barb is going to sink so low as to drive herself to Sheetz for q-sands?!
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Yeah, it was convenient to send Chris out but she did go places on her own.
 
The American Hedgehog said:
Keeping them Indoors + "Like did Barb allow Chris to walk the dogs on his own?"
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I can't imagine chris put up a lengthy argument on the dogs' behalf on why they should have a mile of exercise a day at least, and that he should be the one to do it. With neither robust nor vehement prose did he declare he would scoop up their faecal matter with a poop scoop bag, whilst navigating them safely over road and field. At the first sign of keeping them indoors, he probably threw his top hat into the gallery and declared this was the finest piece of legislature that Snorlax had ever snorted.
 
Alpha Kennybody said:
if I can sum up chris with dogs, it's when Patti goes to sleep.

When Patti was brought to the vet on that faithful day, I was distraught with fright and concern for her health. I stayed with her during her final moments with a hand on her head and a tear in my eye. When my mother was brought the paper that gave the doctor permission to send her on her way, I didn't want her to be the one to sign it. I raised Patti since she was a six-week old pup, and I wanted to take the strain for signing the one-way ticket (it was hard for me, but it was for the best). So I signed that paper, with a crying Sonichu face saying, "We love you, Patti." After that, I gave her my final pets, hug, hand-to-paw hold, eye-contact, ear-rub, cheek-to-fur rub, and I sadly waved her for the final time, and I said, "Good Bye, Patti, I Love You." As I stood outside, I heard Patti's last barks saying, "I will always love you, Chris. Thank You."

Firstly, Chris makes it about him. The dog's last words are 'chris you're amazeballs.'

Secondly, he says he stayed with her and from the sounds of it, engaged in intense foreplay, prior to the dog's peaceful departure. He also says he was outside as the dog barked. When you put a dog to sleep, if you're not there with it, the poor thing is terrified. It'll be in a vet, a place associated with pain. It will remember the smell of anaesthetics, disinfectants, the doctor's clothes, and associate it with bad things. If you leave the dog to the vets (not uncommon to do as it's a traumatic experience for the owner too), the dog will be extremely terrified, as it's alone, its owner is gone, and the last thing it saw of its owner was tears. Patti's final words weren't 'Hail Chris Chan, saviour of the universe' but "No please! Don't leave me! I want to go with you!"

Patti was the childhood pet he loved the most, and though I can believe he was sad when alone, the second it comes to retelling the tale it is with pure hubris. With Snoopy, a dog he seemed to loathe, I can honestly believe he felt nothing, and now is wondering how to milk it for sympathy and social media likes.
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wow you just shed a whole new light on the patti situation. Most of us around here agree that patti may have been one of the few good things chris has ever done in his life (putting aside it was most likely bob who took care of her) but at least he loved her and was genuinely sad when she died. but not only does it seem obvious that he only loved her so much, being too pussy to be there for her when she was being put down, but he also made her death all about himself.

With Snoopy he loathed everything about him and his sister. They were loud, always howling and spoiling his videos, he yelled and possibly beat them to shut up, bit strangers and would tear up the house if left alone. worse of all (to chris) they didn't land him his last chance at a girlfriend catherine ( or Jessica Quiin the final chapter of the love quest i forget). He only cares about him now that he's dead I'm legit shocked he hasn't tried to capitalize on this buy asking boss to reopen the go fund me for "sympathy donations." or ask for some himself.
 
horrorfan89 said:
wow you just shed a whole new light on the patti situation. Most of us around here agree that patti may have been one of the few good things chris has ever done in his life (putting aside it was most likely bob who took care of her) but at least he loved her and was genuinely sad when she died. but not only does it seem obvious that he only loved her so much, being too pussy to be there for her when she was being put down, but he also made her death all about himself.

With Snoopy he loathed everything about him and his sister. They were loud, always howling and spoiling his videos, he yelled and possibly beat them to shut up, bit strangers and would tear up the house if left alone. worse of all (to chris) they didn't land him his last chance at a girlfriend catherine ( or Jessica Quiin the final chapter of the love quest i forget). He only cares about him now that he's dead I'm legit shocked he hasn't tried to capitalize on this buy asking boss to reopen the go fund me for "sympathy donations." or ask for some himself.
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Patti lived outside year round in a pen chained to a dog house. Chris didn't actually spend time with or take care of the dog other than bringing it a bowl of food or water when Bob told him to. The only reason he was so affected by Patti's passing was because; It was his childhood pet, and likely the first time he experienced death in his household. He actually was present for when Patti was put down, likely having to talk with Bob/Barb about Patti dying/going away forever. And, Megan drew Patti.
 
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