So, Akira's live action remake's synopsis just came out.

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

I thought the Ghost in the Shell film was okay. Not great but not terrible. Fantastic visuals. But it lost the point of the original film and that whole universe under Oshii. Oshii really brought out the whole existential element and all of the intelligence with it to the series that was absorbed into Stand Alone Complex. And when you take that away you get just pretty visuals without a plot. Just like the manga.

That's the real killer of it though, the fact that it almost had it but refused out of spite of being predictable and became just that through generic Hollywood writing.

 

[Chester Rigby]

Are there any anime to live action movies which haven’t been disasters? Even the few manga to live action movies were bad like “All you Need is Kill” to “Edge of Tomorrow.”

Alita, motherfucker.

 

[BrunoMattei]

That's the real killer of it though, the fact that it almost had it but refused out of spite of being predictable and became just that through generic Hollywood writing.

The thing with Batou I found insulting. The original movie makes it pretty clear during the scene where they're in pursuit of the hacker using the garbage truck guy that Batou's eyes can see shit ala Terminator Vision. The live action movie had to begin with Batou with normal eyes but he gets into an accident and has to have them replaced with robotic eyes. they had to dumb down for the artards.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

The thing with Batou I found insulting. The movie makes it pretty clear during the scene where they're in pursuit of the hacker using the garbage truck guy that Batou's eyes can see shit ala Terminator Vision. The movie had to begin with Batou with normal eyes but he gets into an accident and has to have them replaced with robotic eyes. they had to dumb down for the artards.

It really makes no sense for Batou to have started out with his default eyes in the movie since nearly everyone in that agency is a full on cyborg except for one guy. Batou's eyes are also supposed to be outdated military grade implants from a war he fought in prior to joining Section 9, which became a minor plot point in Second Gig I believe. I don't know why that needed to have an origin besides being mentioned in passing.

 

[Megaroad]

"When a young man’s telekinesis is discovered by the military, he is taken in to be turned into a super weapon and his brother must race to save him before Manhattan is destroyed by his powers. Kaneda is a bar owner in Neo-Manhattan who is stunned when his brother Tetsuo is abducted by Government agents lead by the Colonel. Desperate to get his brother back, Kaneda agrees to join Ky Reed and her underground movement who are intent on revealing to the world what truly happened to New York City 30 years ago when it was destroyed.
Kaneda believes their theories to be ludicrous, but after facing his brother again is shocked when he displays telekinetic powers. Ky believes Tetsuo is headed to release a young boy. Akira, who has taken control of Tetsuo’s mind, Kaneda clashes with the Colonel’s troops on his way to stop Tetsuo from releasing Akira, but arrives too late. Akira soon emerges from his prison courtesy of Tetsuo as Kaneda races to save his brother before Akira once again destroys Manhattan island as he did thirty years ago."
So, this sounds fucking awful.

This is old as dirt, like I remember 2010 old.

 

[AlexJonesGotMePregnant]

That's the real killer of it though, the fact that it almost had it but refused out of spite of being predictable and became just that through generic Hollywood writing.

ScarJo GotS is a good example of a movie adaptation that would have been better if they dropped the pretense of adherence to the GotS story and just explored the setting. The visuals were great and ScarJo did a good job but I imagine most GotS fans disliked it because it failed to live up to the story quality they expect.

I've heard that Dredd 2015 is gonna get a sequel; I hope that they explore other parts of the world, maybe follow rookie Anderson now that she's got experience rather than just Dredd. I don't even care if it's a brand new story not present in the source material at all; if they can tell a story well, I'm less concerned about the story. I think the same is true for any sort of interesting setting like Akira, GotS, etc.

This Akira remake is giving me american Oldboy vibes. Here is a good (but long) critique/rant about how fucking awful that movie is compared to the original. The original Korean director would just laugh any questions about the reboot off and refused to discuss it. It was offensively bad.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

ScarJo GotS is a good example of a movie adaptation that would have been better if they dropped the pretense of adherence to the GotS story and just explored the setting. The visuals were great and ScarJo did a good job but I imagine most GotS fans disliked it because it failed to live up to the story quality they expect.

I can't agree more that a wholly original story would've been better than what they did. The thing they did, however, was choose to do a specific plotline, the original movie, and then not do it. What's even the point?

 

[MasterDisaster]

Considering they turned Battle Angel Alita from a dark, dreary shitscape into another 'teenager must fight the system while falling in love' slog I hope Hollywood just puts this on the backburner and forgets about it.

 

[NN 401]

I love that they change Kaneda and Tetsuo's relationship from close friends to straight up brothers. I dunno, that's a minor thing compared to all the other shit, but one of the more tragic elements from the movie was the way their friendship dissolved as Tetsuo got more powerful.

Could it work with them as brothers? Maybe? But it also simplifies their relationship. Like you'd expect two brothers to be close.

Of course, this movie's gonna be shit either way in its attempt to Westernize a story deeply rooted in post-WW2 Japanese angst and fear of nuclear annihilation. You can't really emulate that fear when you haven't had a nuke dropped on you.

They’re brothers now otherwise people might think they’ve got the “gay.”

Akira is so heavily invested in Japans wangsting about being blown up that this synopsis just underscores how ill fitting it is to set it in America.

I cringed like I’ve never cringed before.



Edit:

I liked edge of tomorrow even if it wasn’t a one to one adaptation of the manga.

Besides... it would be one of the last times we got to see Bill Paxton

 

[Freddy Freaker]

Nise and doseisha

 

[AlexJonesGotMePregnant]

Why don't they hire a japanese manga/anime creator to write the story? Give them control of the script and then use hollywood to bring his vision to life. Make it a collaboration and work with them to 'adapt' it to something """more accessible""" for american audiences without taking the bite out of it. Akira is supposed to be an uncomfortable story. American audiences remain bland because hollywood refuses to push the envelope. Stop trying to make movies that evangelical christians and satanists and jewish city liberals and muslims and chinese farms will all love. Try making art again. ugh.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

So was Alita just a fluke and the curse of Hollywood anime adaptations still lives? Figures.

Are there any anime to live action movies which haven’t been disasters? Even the few manga to live action movies were bad like “All you Need is Kill” to “Edge of Tomorrow.”

I have an inversion where the anime based off the live-action movie isn't as good.

There's a 1991 Japanese movie called Zeiram involving a really creepy, immortal alien coming to Earth to wreck shit, and the bounty hunter, Iria, was in pursuit and got help from two locals who ended up getting dragged in to it (so you mainly follow these two guys, but Iria is a badass whenever she shows up). But the most iconic part about the film was the alien's design, like this is one impressive-looking creature and the effects were really cool. I suggest checking it out if you're a fan of sci-fi and especially tokusatsu. English dub was done by Streamline Pictures, so the main roles are dubbed by Steve Bulen, Robert Axelrod, Edie Mirman, and Jeff Winkless.

A few years later, they decided to make a prequel anime OVA, but the problem is that outside of being bland as toast, it actually retconned its lore (yes, there's lore), though the big retcon people point out is that the film was supposed to be the first time Iria ever saw Zeiram in person, but the OVA has them meeting and making it so that she was basically a permanent target by Zeiram so that he chased her across the galaxy. Zeiram is still one intimidating motherfucker, but you have to put up with a lot of filler bullshit involving a tag-along kid to even get to the action and the whole thing's basically one giant shout-out to Samus Aran and Ridley tbh.

There's also a sequel to the movie, but it rehashed the plot and just wasn't worth it, so don't bother with that one.

 

[Travoltron]

So was Alita just a fluke and the curse of Hollywood anime adaptations still lives? Figures.

Alita was good because James Cameron wrote it and Robert Rodriguez directed it. These anime adaptations are usually pawned off on bottom-of-the-barrel Hollywood hacks nobody has ever heard of that don't give a damn about the source material.

Also, I'm convinced that the Iria OVA was the inspiration for DNA2, so people might want to check it out to see the similarities between the two anime.

 

[frozenrunner]

I've heard that Dredd 2015 is gonna get a sequel

Holy shit, I hope so. I hope Urban returns to the role, too.

The thing they did, however, was choose to do a specific plotline, the original movie, and then not do it. What's even the point?

Spoiler: You know the answer.

 

[AlexJonesGotMePregnant]

Alita was good because James Cameron wrote it and Robert Rodriguez directed it. These anime adaptations are usually pawned off on bottom-of-the-barrel Hollywood hacks nobody has ever heard of that don't give a damn about the source material.

Also, I'm convinced that the Iria OVA was the inspiration for DNA2, so people might want to check it out to see the similarities between the two anime.

I've heard that while it wasn't very faithful to the source that it was still a very watchable movie and much better than a lot of the recent crap that hollywood has vomited up. would anyone here recommend giving it a shot? maybe movie night @Deadwaste

 

[BrunoMattei]

Does the Gyver count as a good adaptation? I thought it was pretty fun B movie.

 

[Fuzhou]

Even the few manga to live action movies were bad like “All you Need is Kill” to “Edge of Tomorrow.”

See, I'd say that Edge of Tomorrow is a good adaptation, because takes the core idea and makes it it's own thing that doesn't try to tread on the original.

 

[GrungyLawnChlorinate]

If they're changing the setting, then why are they keeping the Japanese names? Is there a cast list for this, yet?

NYC? Lame.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

Part of me is almost glad Berserk STILL isn't over because I have a hunch it would be next on the chopping block of things to be ruined via live action Americanized woke shit.

Careful. Peter Jackson, Guillermo DelToro, Max Landis, and James Cameron are fighting over this as we speak.

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

I wonder if they still intend to make the Live action Evangelion. WETA and Richard Taylor were very enthusiastic about it a decade ago and still want to make it.