Disaster Social Security is projected to be insolvent a year earlier than previously forecast - LOL Get fucked Gen-X

The financial outlook for Social Security is eroding more quickly than previously expected, as the coronavirus pandemic has drained government revenues and put additional strain on one of the nation’s most important social safety net programs. The overall finances for Medicare, however, are expected to hold steady, though the health program is still forecast to face financial pressure in the coming years.

Annual government reports released on Tuesday on the solvency of the programs underscored the questions about their long-term viability at a time when a wave of baby boomers are retiring and the economy faces ongoing uncertainty as variants of the coronavirus surge. The United States economy already faces soaring federal debt levels in the coming decades, but both Democrats and Republicans have been wary of making significant structural reforms to the popular programs.

“Having strong Social Security and Medicare programs is essential in order to ensure a secure retirement for all Americans, especially for our most vulnerable populations,” Treasury Secretary Janet L. Yellen said in a statement. “The Biden-Harris administration is committed to safeguarding these programs and ensuring they continue to deliver economic security and health care to older Americans.”

Senior administration officials said that the long-term effects of the pandemic on the programs are unclear. The actuaries were forced to make assumptions about how long Covid would continue to cause unusual patterns of hospitalizations and deaths and whether it would contribute to long-term disabilities among survivors.

The Social Security Old-Age and Survivors Insurance Trust Fund will now be depleted in 2033, a year earlier than previously projected, according to the report. At that time, the trust fund will run out of reserves and the program will be insolvent, with new tax revenues failing to cover scheduled payments. The report estimated that 76 percent of scheduled benefits will be able to be paid out unless Congress changes the rules to allow full payouts.

The Disability Insurance Trust Fund is now expected to be depleted by 2057, which is eight years earlier than previously thought, at which time 91 percent of benefits will be paid.

Medicare’s finances are effectively holding steady. While tax revenue for the Medicare program did decline as a result of the Covid-related recession, Medicare also ended up spending less money than usual last year, as people avoided elective care.

Medicare’s hospital trust fund is projected to be unable to pay all of its bills beginning in 2026. This estimate is similar to those from Medicare’s trustees in recent years. Fixing that gap now could be achieved by increasing the Medicare payroll tax rate from 2.9 percent to 3.67 percent or by reducing Medicare spending by 16 percent each year, the report notes.

But the report highlighted that the official estimate may be unrealistically optimistic. If certain policies set to expire in the next 10 years are extended, or if other expected policy changes occur, the projections would look substantially more worrying.

Long term, the actuaries said they did not think Covid-19 itself would have substantial influence on Medicare spending on hospital care. On the one hand, the death of many vulnerable, older Americans from the virus may reduce future spending they would otherwise have received. On the other, the actuaries expect that some people may have additional health care needs from the syndrome known as long Covid.

Biden’s 2022 Budget

The 2022 fiscal year for the federal government begins on October 1, and President Biden has revealed what he’d like to spend, starting then. But any spending requires approval from both chambers of Congress. Here’s what the plan includes:

Ambitious total spending: President Biden would like the federal government to spend $6 trillion in the 2022 fiscal year, and for total spending to rise to $8.2 trillion by 2031. That would take the United States to its highest sustained levels of federal spending since World War II, while running deficits above $1.3 trillion through the next decade.

Infrastructure plan: The budget outlines the president’s desired first year of investment in his American Jobs Plan, which seeks to fund improvements to roads, bridges, public transit and more with a total of $2.3 trillion over eight years.

Families plan: The budget also addresses the other major spending proposal Biden has already rolled out, his American Families Plan, aimed at bolstering the United States’ social safety net by expanding access to education, reducing the cost of child care and supporting women in the work force.

Mandatory programs: As usual, mandatory spending on programs like Social Security, Medicaid and Medicare make up a significant portion of the proposed budget. They are growing as America’s population ages.

Discretionary spending: Funding for the individual budgets of the agencies and programs under the executive branch would reach around $1.5 trillion in 2022, a 16 percent increase from the previous budget.

How Biden would pay for it: The president would largely fund his agenda by raising taxes on corporations and high earners, which would begin to shrink budget deficits in the 2030s. Administration officials have said tax increases would fully offset the jobs and families plans over the course of 15 years, which the budget request backs up. In the meantime, the budget deficit would remain above $1.3 trillion each year.

The actuaries declined to make any estimates on the effect of Aduhelm, a very expensive Alzheimer’s treatment that was recently approved by the Food and Drug Administration. The report said that officials were waiting for Medicare to issue guidance on how the drug will be covered before making any calculations. The drug could represent tens of billions of dollars in spending each year.
Democrats in Congress are considering a host of changes to the Medicare program, such as adding new benefits, including coverage for dental, hearing and vision care. While these changes are expected to influence Medicare’s overall finances, none of them are likely to have major effects on the trust fund, which covers only hospital care.

“Medicare trust fund solvency is an incredibly important, longstanding issue, and we are committed to working with Congress to continue building a vibrant, equitable, and sustainable Medicare program,” said Chiquita Brooks-LaSure, the administrator for the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services.

 
Just shut the failed experiment down and let everyone have their money. If you're too stupid to save for retirement you'll be in for a harsh lesson, but a necessary one.

No consequences for being a total failure at life has left us where we are.
 
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You know what will happen, don't you?
All those private accounts set up by responsible and sensible people acting as individuals to plan for their own retirements, there's TRILLIONS of dollars just sitting there.
The Government sees that money, the Government will hunger and just take that money to fluff up Social Security then give all those people who had their money confiscated an I.O.U. or an option to 'buy in' to Social Security.
So all those people that dutifully set up their Roth or HSA or some other form of account will just have their money taken. It's for the greater good you know, you don't want grannies to die in the streets, do you bigot?
Oh, and all of you silver, gold or precious metals bros? The US Government sees you too, just wait and watch for the Govt. to say that owning silver and gold are illegal and force a mandatory turn-in. Oh, but don't worry, you'll get an I.O.U. that they'll super-swear they'll pay you back... eventually... maybe...
Then with all this new debt spending, how long do you think it will be before the Govt. decides to push for a negative interest rate? Where if by some small miracle you actually have cash you'll have to pay what is effectively a tax to hold cash...

fun times are ahead.

The mechanism for taking people's savings is already in place and made legal. It's called a "bail in".


Stocks of metals (undeclared), owning property, etc. Yes, these are all hedges against financial collapse but if things get really bad, it's friends and family that are your most prized defence. The government keeps a monopoly on the use of force for a reason. So yes, do all these things you advise, but don't neglect building communities, family and friends. There's a reason "family" is the first target of communists and national identity the second. These are bulwarks against them.

Just shut the failed experiment down and let everyone have their money. If you're too stupid to save for retirement you'll be in for a harsh lesson, but a necessary one.
It used to be that a family was a unit. It wasn't about "saving for retirement", it was about ensuring that the family as a whole were strong and well-placed. Then in their very twilight years, the elderly would be looked after by their family and also have the opportunity to impart their wisdom and knowledge of the past to their grand children. Now, knowledge of the past is stored in Wikipedia and can be altered at the stroke of a key.
 
Wasn't mass immigration a selling point to preserve social security? There'd be more people paying into it, so it wouldn't go insolvent? I'm not looking for it to make sense, I just can't remember if I actually heard that statement before.
 
Every Gen Xer I've ever known has grown up understanding that social security would be gone by the time they needed it. When the media bothers to even acknowledge the existence of Gen X, it's usually accompanied by some slight about how self-centered and greedily ambitious they are. And they're not wrong, but you have to consider that that's what's going to happen when you tell a bunch of largely ignored latch-key kids that they'll be penniless in their retirement years if they don't get their shit together.
 
All this tells me is to go full Ayn Rand mode and apply for SSI and other shit to drain this garbage. I've probably paid 50k into this scam, I could have put a down payment on a house using that money. Social Security was always a scam set up by the old to drain the young, fuck em let em die poor in a gutter. Maybe you should have been better parents and your kids would feel a duty to take care of you.
 
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Boomer holodomor where
Florida, and I've heard Arizona as well. The entire retirement/senior healthcare industry is finely tuned so that the last check someone writes before they die is going to bounce. Estates are liquidated to either get under asset caps or cover unpaid bills. When they kick the bucket you just replace them with a new old motherfucker and repeat the process.

It seems kind of fucky to me but it's the system they built themselves. They're stealing from mine and every other American's paychecks to do it to because they lack the discipline for adequate retirement planning. To each their own.
 
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They're stealing from mine and every other American's paychecks to do it to because they lack the discipline for adequate retirement planning. To each their own.
Exactly my point. Not "fake retirement fund scam used to fatten banks and defense contractors," but "These bastards who were subjected to the same scam as me are using the pittance they get back!"

Classic American Nigger Cattle attitude.
 
And this is why I roll my eyes whenever I see those payroll deductions.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't social security just a ponzi scheme that is beginning to crumble because the current tax base isn't as big as they hoped it would be like 40 years ago?
All that stuff is just a tax.
 
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Exactly my point. Not "fake retirement fund scam used to fatten banks and defense contractors," but "These bastards who were subjected to the same scam as me are using the pittance they get back!"

Classic American Nigger Cattle attitude.
Well considering when this was implemented, the geriatric fucks are the ones that implemented it. They vote to retain it, and if you haven't noticed our politicians are some old motherfuckers. Why on earth should I be legally obligated to continue to pay into what I know is a Ponzi Scheme? It's absurd. But considering how old people vote I'm really just stuck waiting for them to just die so I might not have to continue to pay into this bullshit. Or at least come clean that I'm not paying into a viable retirement scheme, I am paying a tax to support the indigent elderly. Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining.
 
Well considering when this was implemented, the geriatric fucks are the ones that implemented it. They vote to retain it, and if you haven't noticed our politicians are some old motherfuckers. Why on earth should I be legally obligated to continue to pay into what I know is a Ponzi Scheme? It's absurd. But considering how old people vote I'm really just stuck waiting for them to just die so I might not have to continue to pay into this bullshit. Or at least come clean that I'm not paying into a viable retirement scheme, I am paying a tax to support the indigent elderly. Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining.
Yes, Beatrice, 78, who lives in a crummy apartment in Daytona, implemented the Social Security Act in 1935.
 
Yes, Beatrice, 78, who lives in a crummy apartment in Daytona, implemented the Social Security Act in 1935.
She and her generation have had ~60 voting years to change it. This insolvency wasn't some secret, it was known before it was even implemented. On the other hand I was an infant when the last major changes were implemented. Do you have a gumjob from dusty bitches fetish or something?
 
She and her generation have had ~60 voting years to change it. This insolvency wasn't some secret, it was known before it was even implemented. On the other hand I was an infant when the last major changes were implemented. Do you have a gumjob from dusty bitches fetish or something?
I can't parse that joke, but you sound like the faggots crying because they spent 100k on an interpretative dance degree because "da grownups" said it was a good idea.

Mixed, that is, with someone who buys into the idea that you can vote against graft.
 
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I can't parse that joke, but you sound like the faggots crying because they spent 100k on an interpretative dance degree because "da grownups" said it was a good idea.

Mixed, that is, with someone who buys into the idea that you can vote against graft.
It's okay, I've been responding with the assumption that you struggle to parse lots of things. I'll help: gumjob because old ladies have dentures. Same with dusty, meaning she's so ancient she's collecting dust like an antique. Fetish is an obsession with something in a sexual manner. In other words, are you advocating so hard because you like to fuck old ladies or something? I don't know, your comments just read like someone who is retarded and cannot think critically. You're just making unfounded (and incorrect) jabs instead of writing a rational response.

I got a business degree because I like gainful employment. Part of that education is understanding when to cut your losses and the sunk cost fallacy. We know it's a Ponzi scheme, no matter how much good money we throw after bad, that isn't going to change. The correct answer is to quit paying into it because you're going to get nothing back. Like I said, I don't mind if a portion of my tax dollars goes to covering losses for indigent seniors that were irresponsible with their finances. SS could cease to exist tomorrow and my senior family's quality of life would not change. We believe in hard work and sound financial planning. It isn't something you need the nanny state to do for you. So are you saying the answer to graft is to deny reality and accept the lies in the hope we can get some gibsmedats in a few decades? I'll trust my financial planner, thanks. It's smooth brained and spineless bastards like you that are going to ensure this country fails.
 
How are smooth-brained, spineless people like me holding you down? Go vote away social security, since that's something even a penniless old woman could do.

Classic mixture of power fantasy and victim complex, hence my comparison of you to the basket weavers and their tears over student loans.
 
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Or a step further like back to 1932 when Franklin Roosevelt arrived with his "New Deal" or 1912 when Woodrow Wilson came with the idea of the Federal Reserve. Imagine a world without the New Deal and the Federal Reserve...
Nah fuck that send me back to 1865 or 1776 with a copy of the elder protocols.
 
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No trolling. My comments are based on America's ability to continue making money. Despite the doom and gloom
Social Security is funded through payroll taxes, not corporate profits. The ratio of workers to beneficiaries long ago declined to the point where the program became unsustainable. Add in flat real wage growth and the outlook is significantly worse.

By manipulating reported inflation and cost of living adjustments Social Security has been kept "solvent." A minority of people that understand this are planning accordingly. Everyone else is going to get epically fucked.

 
Wasn't mass immigration a selling point to preserve social security? There'd be more people paying into it, so it wouldn't go insolvent? I'm not looking for it to make sense, I just can't remember if I actually heard that statement before.
Yes, Democrats have used the requirement of an increasingly large tax base necessary to prop up Social Security as a justification for (illegal) immigration, among other taxed services. Never mind how irresponsible a system is if it requires indefinite growth to maintain itself.
 
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