Sony hate thread

  • Want to keep track of this thread?
    Accounts can bookmark posts, watch threads for updates, and jump back to where you stopped reading.
    Create account
What is even their design philosophy for the current generation and the future? Are they just counting on GTA 6 to carry consoles and subscriptions? Sony pulled how many live service titles since Concord? It’s not like the next superhero game will be a blockbuster hit.
Maybe they're hoping the GTA6 frenzy kicks up and that they can ride the wave on that by jacking up the prices. Just watch the second step of their plan is to release the PS6 at like $500, so they can pretend like its cheap because they raised the price of the PS5.
 
Maybe they're hoping the GTA6 frenzy kicks up and that they can ride the wave on that by jacking up the prices. Just watch the second step of their plan is to release the PS6 at like $500, so they can pretend like its cheap because they raised the price of the PS5.
Isn't it also coming out on Xbox whatever? If someone just wants a GTA box, they will go for the cheapest option that isn't ass.
 
Also, to everyone mentioning tariffs, I'd like to remind you that sony themselves announced just a fucking week ago that they had shifted enough manufacturing of the ps5 outside of china to supply the US and be unaffected by the tariffs. This is pure greed.
Not even mentioning that they've raised the price outside of the US. It's pure fucking greed. The only thing Sony has dropped the price of is the PSVR2. Masterful gambit, dropping the price of an accessory most buyers are gonna use with their PC, and raising the price of your main console.
 
What is even their design philosophy for the current generation and the future? Are they just counting on GTA 6 to carry consoles and subscriptions? Sony pulled how many live service titles since Concord? It’s not like the next superhero game will be a blockbuster hit.
This is the plan for every console thar isn't the switch. If you didn't get a ps5 now I'd go Xbox. Gaming is pretty much dead and gta6 is it's savior. Im not trying to glaze gta but is there any fanbase that is positive these days?
 
This is the plan for every console thar isn't the switch. If you didn't get a ps5 now I'd go Xbox. Gaming is pretty much dead and gta6 is it's savior. Im not trying to glaze gta but is there any fanbase that is positive these days?
I have an Xbox already. Anyway, with the Switch in mind, it feels like both Sony and Microsoft are trying to get a slice of the handheld pie after the Switch and Steam Deck proved to be successful. They're both handling it very poorly. I think Microsoft's ROG or whatever is just a Steam Deck with their Xbox OS, while Sony's handheld proposal is a garden walled PS5 streaming device.
 
Not even mentioning that they've raised the price outside of the US. It's pure fucking greed. The only thing Sony has dropped the price of is the PSVR2. Masterful gambit, dropping the price of an accessory most buyers are gonna use with their PC, and raising the price of your main console.
Oh, did they update psvr2 with pc compatability? I know it didn't at launch.
 
This is the plan for every console thar isn't the switch. If you didn't get a ps5 now I'd go Xbox. Gaming is pretty much dead and gta6 is it's savior. Im not trying to glaze gta but is there any fanbase that is positive these days?
Kirby is a long running series that’s been consistently good throughout its whole life, has had most of its best games released within the last decade or so, has an expansion for one of its best games releasing a week from now, and a sequel to a cult classic entry directed by Sakurai releasing in a few months. Kirby fans are eating better than ever.
 

ps6-handheld-specs.webp ps6-bom.webp ps6-ram.webp ps6-canis-full.webp

Devoting a third of the BOM cost/total price to RAM would be pretty wild, but it's needed to integrate LLMs of any quality, and avoid an Xbox Series S situation. I would buy a $299 PS6 handheld... if it got jailbroken forever. Actually, I was reading the PS6S (handheld chip in box form) column. I don't even know if that is a confirmed product or merely a hypothetical.
 
Last edited:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=x-A3Bl2hXoQ
View attachment 7840975View attachment 7840976View attachment 7840995View attachment 7840996

Devoting a third of the BOM cost/total price to RAM would be pretty wild, but it's needed to integrate LLMs of any quality, and avoid an Xbox Series S situation. I would buy a $299 PS6 handheld... if it got jailbroken forever. Actually, I was reading the PS6S (handheld chip in box form) column. I don't even know if that is a confirmed product or merely a hypothetical.
I am forever dropping out of the console wars, and will continue to play old shit instead.
 
Why does a handheld need LLM, AI, Ray Tracing and 4k? It's a fucking handheld with a tiny screen.

We need to go back, desperately, to a simpler time.
 
most of its best games released within the last decade or so
Dreamland 1 & 2 and Kirby 64 are much farther back than that.

Why does a handheld need LLM, AI, Ray Tracing and 4k? It's a fucking handheld with a tiny screen.

We need to go back, desperately, to a simpler time.
AI has a lot of potential, but otherwise yeah.
 
https://youtube.com/watch?v=x-A3Bl2hXoQ
View attachment 7840975View attachment 7840976View attachment 7840995View attachment 7840996

Devoting a third of the BOM cost/total price to RAM would be pretty wild, but it's needed to integrate LLMs of any quality, and avoid an Xbox Series S situation. I would buy a $299 PS6 handheld... if it got jailbroken forever. Actually, I was reading the PS6S (handheld chip in box form) column. I don't even know if that is a confirmed product or merely a hypothetical.
>We need a higher price for more ram so this handheld can have LLMs and ray tracing! You don’t want to see… le gasp… LOADING SCREENS do you???
 
Why does a handheld need LLM, AI, Ray Tracing and 4k? It's a fucking handheld with a tiny screen.

We need to go back, desperately, to a simpler time.
First of all, you get ray treason by default if you use RDNA5, or you know, modified RDNA2 (PS5). Even smartphones have ray tracing these days (the latest Samsung Exynos SoCs even use RDNA2/3 specifically). Certain effects like shadows or reflections can be done with RT while other parts remain rasterized.

A tiny 1080p handheld doesn't change the need for games to run the same. Having handheld-specific games like PSP isn't as viable as games that run on the main console and handheld. If games can run at 4K120 on PS6, they can probably run at 1080p30 on the handheld. Docking + upscaling from the slower handheld chip might get it to 4K, idk.

LLMs and (near?) real-time text-to-speech can be used to make NPCs with dynamic conversations. You can find demos of this. Other structured data like quest lines could also be generated by LLMs. Yeah, this could all suck, but it could be cool if it works.

It sounds like 8-10 GB is the minimum amount of RAM you would want to set aside for these AI/LLM functions, on top of around 24-32 GB for everything else, up from 16 GB of the current generation. So that's how you get estimates like 36-40 GB. Using LPDDR5X, it won't be as expensive as GDDR6 used to be.

If a developer doesn't use AI, they get free RAM to use elsewhere. No developer is going to say no to 36... 40... 48 GB of RAM instead of 24 GB, which would be the absolute minimum cheap-out route you could predict for next-gen.
 
Back
Top Bottom