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Gunter x Gunter said:
It was bundled with all the consoles after the PS4 Pro/PS5 came out and the head of the studio got promoted (then demoted) from head of SIE software. It's so obviously the most astroturfed franchise of all time. You can tell nobody played it because they all just default to its le good, without anything else concrete. Nobody can actually be bothered to care about post apocalyptic bow and arrow lesbian shooting robo dinos.
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I've played it and skipped every cutscene that had nothing to do with the backstory. The backstory and the self destruct mechanism going haywire were the only interesting parts of the game's plot. I wish there was a game about Operation Enduring Victory, which was a hopeless fight against the biomass eating robots. An FPS about that would be cool.

Gameplay wise, the game is one of the better Sony movie games not called Days Gone.
 
Broseph said:
Xbox was still the gloried Halo box. I had all three consoles back then and most of the friends I had back then only had a PS2 so whenever they came over they always wanted to play Halo, no one ever wanted to play Ninja Gaiden or Project Gotham Racing.

My point still stands that Xbox would have flopped if it didn't have Halo.
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Hard disagree. The Xbox HUEG was great in a similar way to the Dreamcast. It didn't have a ton of huge hits but had tons of weird bullshit some of which people still haven't even tried to copy like Phantom Dust. The PS2 had a billion 8/10s that most people would like, the Xbox Hueg had maybe 40 games that are 9/10s but only appeal to very small niches.
Voodoo Vince was super fun and felt like a spiritual successor to Rayman 2 in terms of atmosphere.
Steel Batallion is still the best mech game ever made.
JSRF if still kino.
Breakdown was and still is absolutely bizarre but really endearing.
Panzer Dragoon Oorta is still great.
Buffy The Vampire Slayer is bafflingly fun.
Both Otogi games are great.
And of course Metal Wolf Chaos, granted nobody really got to play it but it has the best voice acting of the generation.
 
They managed to make a game like Alien: Isolation look phenomenal while still running on toasters. As far as I'm concerned, at this point "graphics" is a solved problem in video games. The standard hardware (PCs and consoles) is more than adequate, the pipelines and other assorted technology obviously exists and is a known quantity now.

Of course, this means modern developers face a far greater challenge: innovation. Smarter NPCs, bigger worlds, better stories, etc.

Get to it, devs! We've still got money to spend if you feel like earning it.
 
Bog-standard Poster said:
I would rather see particle effects, challenging AI, clever worlds, environmental damage/destruction, 60/90/120 fps, massive-scale battles; vehicular combat on air, land and see or thousands of enemies on a screen like 99 nights, than look at debra wogsons ugly mug at 4k with RT.

Maybe the industry won't crash like a plane going down, but instead crash like a car smashing into the wall of diminishing returns.
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Environmental damage/destruction will probably never be widespread, because it has narrative and gameplay implications in terms of game design. I would wager AI is probably the next thing devs are going to hype, Nvidia already had tech demos on NPC text generation and you already have robot teams winning in games like Dota. They will probably during the next hardware iteration, to revive faltering interest, jump on the AI train for NPC behavior and generic unimportant NPC dialogue.
 
The Ugly One said:
I regret to inform you that GPU prices have once again gone gay and retarded. The 6650 is the approximate equivalent of the PS5's GPU.

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My 6700 XT was $429.99 on Amazon when I bought it.
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This is insanity, I've seen listings for the RX 7600, which essentially gives the exact same performance as the 6650 XT, for half that price.

Caddo Cobgang said:
that and the fact that developers will eventually need to sit down and accept the fact that graphics arent the be all end all, performance is much more important, im not even the most prissy when it comes to 60FPS but a lot of people arent going to care about ultra-realistic gen 9 graphics if it runs at 30FPS, for many thats borderline unplayable, Nintendo is the only company that seems to have gotten the memo and they prioritize visually appealing art style over making every tree look like its real life.
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And yet they'll never learn because it is not just about pushing realistic graphics, it is about pushing ever higher resolutions because they need to justify a reason for people to keep buying new monitors and TVs with ludicrous pixel counts. This is why there is such a push for AI upscaling to fill more pixels.

When you think 1080p is finally going to be the agreed upon target resolution for games to run at consistent frame rates, the tech bros jump in claiming "NOOO 1440p is the new sweet spot, and 4K is optimal, why are you still playing at 1080p?!" trying to gaslight you into thinking that 1080p doesn't have enough image fidelity. This is always why there is this constant struggle to hit stable 60FPS in modern games, it is not just lack of optimization, it is the exponential push for more pixels while GPU's are barely keeping up with the workload required to push such pixel count.

It is not going to stop at 4K either, remember that the PS5 had "8K" iconography on the box when it launched and Sony had to remove it because it was false advertisement but you better believe they are going to keep pushing that crap again in the next generation. It is a gimmick. it is going to reach a point where the human eye is not going to be able to "resolve" the individual pixels of any display. It is going to be the same as it happened with color. When was the last time any screen or system advertised how many colors it could show at the same time? That feature stopped at the 16.5 million mark because pushing more makes no difference, the eye can't resolve color gradients changes above that number. So they are going to keep pushing the resolution feature until it too becomes non discernible by human eyes.

Nintendo smartest decision was to get out of that rat race and focus on creating whimsical and fun games. They really have polished to perfection the "Nintendo Art Style" they use for their flagship characters and games that do not need reliance of high end graphics to make them work and because now their focus is handhelds system with comparatively small screen, they don't need high pixel count displays.

GeorgeFloydFentanylStash said:
You know, I watched the Death Stranding 2 trailer. I don’t know how games will get better looking. The style and aesthetics are very tired at this point IMO. Developers are chasing diminishing returns when it comes to graphics.

What i remember more visually about a game is the style and aesthetics. Lifelike Graphics don’t come close to great style and aesthetics.
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I've been visualizing in my mind what it would be like to play games with imagery indistinguishable from reality and I cannot fathom something more off-putting and boring than such a vision.
 
Belvedere said:
Nintendo smartest decision was to get out of that rat race and focus on creating whimsical and fun games. They really have polished to perfection the "Nintendo Art Style" they use for their flagship characters and games that do not need reliance of high end graphics to make them work and because now their focus is handhelds system with comparatively small screen, they don't need high pixel count displays.
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nintendo is still making games, while sony/ms crawled up their own ass going all in trying to make "interactive movies"
 
Belvedere said:
It is not going to stop at 4K either, remember that the PS5 had "8K" iconography on the box when it launched and Sony had to remove it because it was false advertisement but you better believe they are going to keep pushing that crap again in the next generation.
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I remember that there was ONE game that could be played at 8K on PS5. Not false advertisement per se but not getting you money's worth. Still, it proves how hard that is.

ZMOT said:
nintendo is still making games, while sony/ms crawled up their own ass going all in trying to make "interactive movies"
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You know they are even embarrassed for the "interactive" part.
 
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Incecticyder said:
I remember that there was ONE game that could be played at 8K on PS5. Note false advertisement per se but not getting you money's worth. Still, it proves how hard that is.
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The Touryst renders internally at 8K but can't actually output it, because they never enabled 8K output at the system level for the original PS5. That's why it was false advertising.
The funny thing is, the PS5 Pro cucked out and uses DSC (lossy image compression) to output 8K because it uses the same video encoder as the original and doesn't have the bandwidth for uncompressed 8K. They easily could enable 8K output for the original, they just decided it wasn't worth it for a single game.
 
whatever I feel like said:
Pornographic Qix used to be a whole subgenre in Japan. I really can't tell why.
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it still is, it's just moved over to the Nintendo Switch
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Vyse Inglebard said:
here's Scott the Woz dragging Sony for astroturfing the Horizon franchise in his latest video, along with a mini-review of LEGO Horizon:
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What makes Horizon special that other action adventure open world games hasn't done in the past ten years? Aloy doesn't feel that impactful of a character. I've seen silent films with more impact than her.
 
moocow said:
They managed to make a game like Alien: Isolation look phenomenal while still running on toasters. As far as I'm concerned, at this point "graphics" is a solved problem in video games. The standard hardware (PCs and consoles) is more than adequate, the pipelines and other assorted technology obviously exists and is a known quantity now.

Of course, this means modern developers face a far greater challenge: innovation. Smarter NPCs, bigger worlds, better stories, etc.

Get to it, devs! We've still got money to spend if you feel like earning it.
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The problem is, they don't want to earn it. They want to lecture you about white men and how they're horrible awful people and shoehorn Trump references every five seconds in case you didn't get the fact that they hate Trump and Elon Musk in all the press junkets they've done.
 
LifeAlert said:
Speaking of Sony, an unreleased PS3 game got released online yesterday:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=HJgYEGtgpp4Definitely would be a no-no game today
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Makes you wonder how much unreleased stuff is sitting around out there just waiting to be found or released. Pretty neat, even if it is...what it is.

Celebrate Nite said:
it still is, it's just moved over to the Nintendo Switch
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AI games are out in full force huh? You can tell that look a mile away usually.
 
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