Sony hate thread

[Broseph]

Switch is great but it doesn't have the same level of quality exclusives PS2 had imo. They're both so good it's basically splitting hairs though, like debating PS1 vs PS2.

That's because most of the Switch's library is just ports of old games.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

This is some faggot shit. When was the last time Final Fantasy was an actual JRPG anyway? The last few games have been boring DMC knock offs. If making shit jrpgs is making them think the term is racist. Wait till action game fans talk about their shit

Not since 12 I'd say. 13 is when the tone shifted and we get this weird, linear action game.

I know, right? in modern FF, progression is so illusory that not only are you incapable of choosing or even customizing your party members, whenever they re-join you after a lengthy sabbatical, they're auto-leveled to whatever the merry fuck you happen to be. I mean, am I even playing the game at that point?!

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

That's because most of the Switch's library is just ports of old games.

There's definitely a lot of that, but it still shits on PS5 & PS4 with ease, and I'd even place it above PS3, though that's arguable. The fact we have to look back and compare it to 6th gen platforms to definitively place a system over the Switch is more a condemnation of the current state of gaming than praise for the Switch, I suppose.

 

[Pissmaster]

In case anybody missed it, Square Enix producer says that the term "jrpg" is racist. https://www.gamesradar.com/final-fantasy-visionary-yoshi-p-really-doesnt-like-the-term-jrpg/

Yoshi-P Is Right: It's Time to Retire "JRPG"

In a recent interview, 'FFXVI' producer Naoki Yoshida made a strong case for why it's time to retire this dated term.

www.inverse.com

You can't even retain a genre name in the Soyny sphere. Did Sony's California HQ get to Square Enix? Is western influence corrupting Japanese devs? Or is this a shitty marketing strategy to get people on board with the new Soyny ps5 timed exclusive that has removed turn based fighting for a "modern audience"?

Final Fantasy 16 stuck with action combat over turn-based to appeal to a younger crowd

In a recent interview Final Fantasy 16 producer Naoki Yoshida said that the reason the game doesn't have turn-based combat is to appeal to a younger generation.

www.vg247.com

Well, that's retarded. We differentiate RPGs from JRPGs because JRPGs are very different. RPGs have you build a character from the ground up, while JRPGs have you use stock characters with very little customization. Technically, Undertale has more right to call itself a JRPG than not, and Final Fantasy Tactics has more right to call itself an RPG than not.

I'm sure that guy has no qualms about the term "anime" strictly relating to a particular style of animation from Japan, and he'd probably get flustered if The Boondocks were commonly considered anime.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

Well, that's retarded. We differentiate RPGs from JRPGs because JRPGs are very different. RPGs have you build a character from the ground up, while JRPGs have you use stock characters with very little customization. Technically, Undertale has more right to call itself a JRPG than not, and Final Fantasy Tactics has more right to call itself an RPG than not.

I'm sure that guy has no qualms about the term "anime" strictly relating to a particular style of animation from Japan, and he'd probably get flustered if The Boondocks were commonly considered anime.

It’s not exactly what he said. He said that devs in Japan typically don’t like the term “JRPG” because it came about around the time of Phil Fish and DmC, when western game journalists were essentially shitting on any game from Japan simply for being Japanese. He does, however, acknowledge the term is used much much more positively these days compared to back then.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

It’s not exactly what he said. He said that devs in Japan typically don’t like the term “JRPG” because it came about around the time of Phil Fish and DmC, when western game journalists were essentially shitting on any game from Japan simply for being Japanese. He does, however, acknowledge the term is used much much more positively these days compared to back then.

So basically, he's pointing out that Japanese devs were annoyed that their games were being pigeonholed with the term, which was then used to dismiss them. A fair enough assessment I suppose.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

It’s not exactly what he said. He said that devs in Japan typically don’t like the term “JRPG” because it came about around the time of Phil Fish and DmC, when western game journalists were essentially shitting on any game from Japan simply for being Japanese. He does, however, acknowledge the term is used much much more positively these days compared to back then.

The term is older than that by at least a bit. I remember hearing it in the late 00's.

 

[Pissmaster]

The term is older than that by at least a bit. I remember hearing it in the late 00's.

Yeah, I think I heard that term in the early 2000s. Probably from some faggot on GameFAQs ranting about how Final Fantasy VII is not the same as Dungeons & Dragons.

It’s not exactly what he said. He said that devs in Japan typically don’t like the term “JRPG” because it came about around the time of Phil Fish and DmC, when western game journalists were essentially shitting on any game from Japan simply for being Japanese. He does, however, acknowledge the term is used much much more positively these days compared to back then.

For what it's worth, JRPGs of the early HD era were really pathetic.

 

[zyclonPD]

It’s not exactly what he said. He said that devs in Japan typically don’t like the term “JRPG” because it came about around the time of Phil Fish and DmC, when western game journalists were essentially shitting on any game from Japan simply for being Japanese. He does, however, acknowledge the term is used much much more positively these days compared to back then.

Its not exactly what he said but the media took it a different way and social media definitely took it a different way.

Its basically become jrpg=racism to the liberal crowd and I thought it was funny because as you might see in the video its a lot of Sony fanboys who are happy to parrot that rhetoric.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

So basically, he's pointing out that Japanese devs were annoyed that their games were being pigeonholed with the term, which was then used to dismiss them. A fair enough assessment I suppose.

Essentially, yeah.

The term is older than that by at least a bit. I remember hearing it in the late 00's.

It is, but it’s one of those things where a word gets picked up and used to mean”bad” by a lot of people, in this case, western game journalism.

Its not exactly what he said but the media took it a different way and social media definitely took it a different way. https://youtube.com/watch?v=8j-XxETY9PY:0Its basically become jrpg=racism to the liberal crowd and I thought it was funny because as you might see in the video its a lot of Sony fanboys who are happy to parrot that rhetoric.

Yeah, pretty much. I think that was just around the time they were made aware of how it was being used.

I’ve only ever used “JRPG” to mean “Japanese role playing games, but I do remember between 2010 to 2020 game articles coming out just absolutely shitting on games from japan. Still see them occasionally these days, but I think the peak of it back then.

 

[ShitlordroltihS]

Playstation is for niggers.
Bludbone do be pretty gud tho shieeeeeeeet

 

[augment]

Jrpgs have taken a turn for the worse in the last couple of decades but the wokes declaring an intifada against them is just freaking hilarious to me. Most of the seething from that persona 5 character (whom to this day I have no clue about) was interesting to read.

 

[whatever I feel like]

Essentially, yeah.

It is, but it’s one of those things where a word gets picked up and used to mean”bad” by a lot of people, in this case, western game journalism.


Yeah, pretty much. I think that was just around the time they were made aware of how it was being used.

I’ve only ever used “JRPG” to mean “Japanese role playing games, but I do remember between 2010 to 2020 game articles coming out just absolutely shitting on games from japan. Still see them occasionally these days, but I think the peak of it back then.

That period of time was the nadir of that Japanese games industry. They deserved to get shat on for their crappy handheld-centric cute girls being cute deck builder games.

 

[BananaSplit²]

the wokes declaring an intifada against them is just freaking hilarious to me. Most of the seething from that persona 5 character (whom to this day I have no clue about) was interesting to read.

It's not limited to just japanese videogames, but mangas and anime as well, because they completely dominate the western markets uncontested nowadays. A country like France which was known to have a strong french-belgian lineage of comic books (Asterix, Tintin, Smurfs, Spirou, etc.) in the past, is largely dominated by mangas these days: they made up 57% of comic book sales in 2022 according to GFK and 75% of Culture Pass purchases in 2021 were solely mangas.

And since the preachy authoritarian freaks, who largely ruined creative freedom in the West, have no direct control (to assert their ideologies) over nippon entertainment with an iron grip, that still makes them rage as a result. It won't stop them doing under-handed methods like the Californian Sony censorship from 2018 or still mistranslating japanese media to this day, in an attempt to ruin people's fun.

Technically, Undertale has more right to call itself a JRPG than not, and Final Fantasy Tactics has more right to call itself an RPG than not.

From what I've seen, tactical strategy games (such as Disgaea, Triangle Strategy, Fire Emblem, Tactics Ogre, etc.) are called シミュレーションRPG (Simulation RPG) over there.
Similarly, アクションRPG (Action RPG) would be games like Dark Souls, Monster Hunter, King's Field, Nier, Brandish, etc. The Legend of Zelda serie falls into this category too.

 

[Dimensional Sperge]

That's because most of the Switch's library is just ports of old games.

Mainly because the Wii U failed too hard and Nintendo wants to make a quick buck. Same happened (to less of an extent) in the Wii era where Gamecube titles were released with Wii motion capabilities despite the Wii itself being backwards compatible with the Gamecube.

 

[Belvedere]

"How to kill your cashcow brand in two steps: Move to california, stop making actual games"

After seeing how much of a waste of money is owning a PS5, it may very well the sunset years for the brand. Sony failed to keep their catalog of legacy IPs and now are paying the price.

The Switch may be an under powered piece of crap but Nintendo can get away with it because if you want to play the newest Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Pokemon, Kirby, Splatoon, then you have to buy their hardware, For all the bullshit their audience has to put up with, at least they know they are going to get the games because there is a culture and an identity tied to the brand "Nintendo" that has been maintained and cultivated over the years. Mario is still Mario and Zelda is still Zelda after all these years.

As @Basic Blond Boy mentioned, people bought the PS5 out of social inertia but as a system it is just a thirdpartystation. The brand "Playstation" has no identity of its own anymore. Look what they even did to the God of War franchise.

I really don't know what Sony is going to do moving forward, if this keeps up they might as well do a Sega and get out of the hardware side of the business because there is no way to justify purchasing their current plastic box, let alone the next one.

Spoiler: LMAO

BTW, it is a "social experiment" on low balling costumers on valuable items but still funny.

 

[BananaSplit²]

but as a system it is just a thirdpartystation.

That's always been a main selling point of Playstation to be fair. But (esp. japanese) third-party franchises are no longer exclusive to PS these days and get released on PC and Switch too.

 

[ZMOT]

It's not limited to just japanese videogames, but mangas and anime as well, because they completely dominate the western markets uncontested nowadays. A country like France which was known to have a strong french-belgian lineage of comic books (Asterix, Tintin, Smurfs, Spirou, etc.) in the past, is largely dominated by mangas these days: they made up 57% of comic book sales in 2022 according to GFK and 75% of Culture Pass purchases in 2021 were solely mangas.

to be fair that's not difficult, lot of belgian comics take months if not years for a new book to come out, which is almost the complete opposite to 30 or so cheap black&white pages each month.

manga also kinda saves those in general, iirc there was a huge slump at the end of the 90's where the interest in manga pushed those comics alongside it (and europe's comic market was always a bit more stable than the burger capeshit monoculture).

 

[Hightension]

Now a bigass tech retailer has ps5‘s to buy, with a forced copy of forspoken:

How many will seek their ps5 when they try to play this godawfull shit?
Soyn just keeps loosing.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Now a bigass tech retailer has ps5‘s to buy, with a forced copy of forspoken:
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How many will seek their ps5 when they try to play this godawfull shit?
Soyn just keeps loosing.

They should give a discount for foisting that SJW propaganda on people.