Sony hate thread

[marvlouslie]

Microsoft would gain literally nothing by making CoD exclusive. Got into it with a pony earlier on Twitter about this shit, and boy howdy is it fucking dumb.

 

[zyclonPD]

Microsoft would gain literally nothing by making CoD exclusive. Got into it with a pony earlier on Twitter about this shit, and boy howdy is it fucking dumb.

The best strategy is to simply have the season passes and best events be an Xbox exclusive but keep selling the base game and DLC to Sony fans to get the extra revenue. Any dollar spent on CoD by a Sony fan at that point is helping Microsoft and naturally the player base might be inclined to drift to the Xbox platform over time through having the game free on gamepass, better season passes etc. Its a death by a thousand cuts strategy.

 

[marvlouslie]

The best strategy is to simply have the season passes and best events be an Xbox exclusive but keep selling the base game and DLC to Sony fans to get the extra revenue. Any dollar spent on CoD by a Sony fan at that point is helping Microsoft and naturally the player base might be inclined to drift to the Xbox platform over time through having the game free on gamepass, better season passes etc. Its a death by a thousand cuts strategy.

No. The best strategy would be for Microsoft to do fucking nothing, and laugh as Sony's panic and fear mongering make them look even dumber.

 

[Two Dollars]

EA basically told them if they didn't sell off their sports division then EA wouldn't support the Xbox. If I remember right they tried using similar leverage to fuck with Sega at some point during the lifetime of the Dreamcast too.

Didn’t EA do the same thing to Nintendo? I seem to recall then wanting to make Origin the Wii U’s main online infrastructure and Nintendo telling them to fuck off, then EA suddenly pulling the plug on everything Wii U-related.

 

[Sexyphobe]

EA basically told them if they didn't sell off their sports division then EA wouldn't support the Xbox. If I remember right they tried using similar leverage to fuck with Sega at some point during the lifetime of the Dreamcast too.

Cloud handhelds are retarded. I used xcloud every once and a while and it works well enough but really only for slower paced stuff like JRPGs, VNs, and puzzle games. I don't know why anyone would buy a standalone device for it. I would get a handheld series S equivalent for sure if for no other reason than to have a portable version of the Viva Pinata games.

That's exactly what happened. Sega bought Visual Concepts (Who would later become 2K), EA got pissy because they wanted sports exclusivity on the Dreamcast, and pulled support. Luckily for Sega, NFL2K was extremely well received and sold great.

I meant through the xCloud phone app, not seperate hardware. Also Rare you can faff around on Sea of Theives and wherever Everwild is going to be all you like, but make Viva Pinata 3 already!

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

Didn’t EA do the same thing to Nintendo? I seem to recall then wanting to make Origin the Wii U’s main online infrastructure and Nintendo telling them to fuck off, then EA suddenly pulling the plug on everything Wii U-related.

Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what happened. EA had been working with Nintendo pretty closely regarding the Wii U, till EA tried to force Origin on them. Nintendo told them to cut that crap out, and EA basically took their ball and went home, refusing to support the Wii U at all. EA ultimately only ended up releasing four games for the console in all, after originally touting an "unprecedented partnership" between EA and Nintendo. EA tried to claim that the reason their support for Wii U was lacking was because of lack of sales and the console's technological weaknesses, as this article from Eurogamer shows. However, peel behind the veil, and the truth is that at the time there were consistent reports that EA had tried to get Nintendo (and Valve) turned on to the idea of using Origin as their primary online service, only for no such deals to materialize, as shown in this archived IGN blog. As this blog details, not only were the games EA released few in number, but they were utterly shit, in most cases inferior to the versions even on previous generation consoles. To quote IGN:

Late 2012, and the "inside sources" say Nintendo and EA's relationship was dead. Origin had been the key factor for EA support on the Wii U, and apparently Nintendo refused. Rumors were flying about how EA doesn't believe Mass Effect 3 will sell at all on Wii U. When asked how much EA was investing in Nintendo's new console, EA's Patrick Soderlund replied "We try to make games that are ideal for each platform as much as possible." Of course, that doesn't really answer anything, and perhaps for good reason too, because afterwards things just went dead.

Aside from Need for Speed: Most Wanted, no other Electronic Arts game made it to the console. Crysis 3 was apparently running on Wii U, but EA simply told the developers "no." Other games, like Dead Space and Fuse aren't even coming. Even worse, EA had recently announced that they were developing zero games (zero games!) for Wii U, a statement later retracted by EA CFO Blake Jorgensen. Even so, it has already been confirmed that Madden and Fifa, two games that were so strongly supported by EA in their 2012 summer showcase, won't be coming to Wii U.

In many cases, EA's cancellations of such titles, however disappointing, seemed reasonable considering they claimed the Wii U could not run their latest Frostbite 3 engine. But when they announced that Frostbite would run on tablets and smartphones, the internet went aflame. Rumors began to rise about how EA didn't even try to test Frostbite 3 on the console because they simply didn't want to support it.

It seems that EA's attitude toward Wii U as a whole has changed completely. After years of defending the Wii U as a next-gen system, EA has recently come out and stated that they don't consider Nintendo's latest console as part of the next generation. Senior SE and Architect of EA Sports Bob Summerwill didn't even hesitate to attack Nintendo on Twitter, calling the Wii U a "awful console" and "crap," claiming they "should have 'done a Sega'".

Electronic Arts recently announced that their partnership with Nintendo is over. The four titles they released on the system – Mass Effect 3, FIFA, Madden, and Need for Speed – represented the "unprecedented partnership" EA was referring to at E3 2011. They are now moving to other things, like their "new partnership" with Microsoft and their Xbox One. Funny thing is that EA has only announced four games to that platform as well.

Four games. Four games and its an "unprecedented partnership." For the record, the Wii also had 4 EA games in its first 6 months of existence. Yeah. Unprecedented partnership my a**.

The situation got so bad, that someone EA reportedly claimed that, as far as EA was concerned "Nintendo was dead to us very quickly".

 

[whatever I feel like]

Dude, thats not an IGN employee's article, its just some guy. The Origin rumors are still totally unsubstantiated and "our games sold like shit so we stopped" is totally believable since the sane rhing happened to them on Switch and others on Wii U.

 

[Miller]

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/642e9aee7de82b0012313735/SIE_response.pdf

Any degradation in the price, performance, or quality of play on PlayStation or any delays on release would quickly harm SIE’s reputation and cause a loss of engagement and of players.

*coughs* The PC version of TLoU remake *coughs*

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

*coughs* The PC version of TLoU remake *coughs*

Wait, is it seriously that bad?

YOU NIGGERS CAN'T EVEN PORT TO THE PC CORRECTLY
HOLY SHIT NAUGHTY DOG IS A FUCKING JOKE

 

[Wesker]

Wait, is it seriously that bad?
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YOU NIGGERS CAN'T EVEN PORT TO THE PC CORRECTLY
HOLY SHIT NAUGHTY DOG IS A FUCKING JOKE

Juden Druckmann just wanted to shit it out ASAP to recoup the losses on TLOU2 faster with what appears to be no bug testing. Maybe the remake didn't sell very well and they just don't care.

 

[Two Dollars]

Wait, is it seriously that bad?
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YOU NIGGERS CAN'T EVEN PORT TO THE PC CORRECTLY
HOLY SHIT NAUGHTY DOG IS A FUCKING JOKE

J-just goes to show how bad PC is compared to the glorious PS5

 

[BananaSplit²]

*coughs* The PC version of TLoU remake *coughs*

akshually it's only bad when it happens in "our" environment:

"Conversations in forums, chatrooms and public gaming sessions confirm that gamers are very conscious of the slightest changes in a game’s performance.24 As the highly confidential figure below shows, details such as crashes, freezes and glitches, as well as graphics and load times, have a significant impact on consumer satisfaction"

Paragraph 26, Page 9 in the PDF

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

Dude, thats not an IGN employee's article, its just some guy. The Origin rumors are still totally unsubstantiated and "our games sold like shit so we stopped" is totally believable since the sane rhing happened to them on Switch and others on Wii U.

The rumors about EA dumping Wii U due to Nintendo not wanting Origin were a thing; I distinctly remember them, and they were based on "anonymous" sources within the industry. Take people commenting on a matter off the record with a grain of salt, as always, but the fact that this was something consistently pushed at the time probably indicates that there was something hokey going on behind the scenes. To add to this, Alex Ward, the former head of Criterion Games, had his own criticism to level at EA regarding how they acted during that time, and it is scathing to say the least. And it isn't just that EA didn't put out games for the Wii U. EA went out of their way to deride the console, and put no effort at all into the games they did actually release.

 

[whatever I feel like]

The rumors about EA dumping Wii U due to Nintendo not wanting Origin were a thing; I distinctly remember them, and they were based on "anonymous" sources within the industry. Take people commenting on a matter off the record with a grain of salt, as always, but the fact that this was something consistently pushed at the time probably indicates that there was something hokey going on behind the scenes. To add to this, Alex Ward, the former head of Criterion Games, had his own criticism to level at EA regarding how they acted during that time, and it is scathing to say the least. And it isn't just that EA didn't put out games for the Wii U. EA went out of their way to deride the console, and put no effort at all into the games they did actually release.

Yeah, and there were rumors of Steam/Valve-tech being Nintendo's new online system too. Both were bullshit made up by fans to feed an information gap. And Alex Ward's comments had nothing to do with Origin either, just that EA was a cheap bitch in regards to disc pressing and then marketing for his year-old port.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

Yeah, and there were rumors of Steam/Valve-tech being Nintendo's new online system too. Both were bullshit made up by fans to feed an information gap. And Alex Ward's comments had nothing to do with Origin either, just that EA was a cheap bitch in regards to disc pressing and then marketing for his year-old port.

As I said, the rumors came from within the industry, not fans, and were prominent enough that major outlets, like CinemaBlend, were reporting them, and the way these things work, where there's smoke, there's fire. These types of things don't just come out of nowhere; many leaks are released with very particular goals in mind, such as to put pressure on one company or another, or someone within the company leaking info.

The reports only gained more traction due to how cold EA's relationship became with Nintendo in only a short amount of time, with subsequent reporting and public statements by both current and former EA employees only backing up a major fissure appearing between the two companies during this time, despite EA "unprecedented partnership" they were touting.

 

[whatever I feel like]

As I said, the rumors came from within the industry, not fans, and were prominent enough that major outlets, like CinemaBlend, were reporting them, and the way these things work, where there's smoke, there's fire. These types of things don't just come out of nowhere; many leaks are released with very particular goals in mind, such as to put pressure on one company or another, or someone within the company leaking info.

The reports only gained more traction due to how cold EA's relationship became with Nintendo in only a short amount of time, with subsequent reporting and public statements by both current and former EA employees only backing up a major fissure appearing between the two companies during this time, despite EA "unprecedented partnership" they were touting.

Cinaneblend is not a credible gaming outlet, the only sources you cited were a random nobody's blog and Alex Ward saying something other than what you described. The issue that came up was the same one that came up between Nintendo and Activision, Ubisoft, Square, Sega, etc. Its that the Wii U was a fucking flop and putting assets into it would have been a waste of those assets.

I definitely remember way more people reporting the Valve rumor back then, and it was all pure hopium.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

Cinaneblend is not a credible gaming outlet,

What is a "credible gaming outlet" and how does Cinemablend, a mainstream news site owned by the same company that owns PC Gamer, Tom's Guide, and TechRadar not count as one?

Its that the Wii U was a fucking flop and putting assets into it would have been a waste of those assets.

EA dropped Wii U support long before it was clear it would flop, within the first year of its launch, after touting a major partnership with Nintendo. Ubisoft maintained support for far longer, despite no public proclamations of partnership. Trying to use the Wii U's eventual flop status as an excuse makes no more sense than EA trying to say that Frostbite was the reason because the Wii U couldn't support it, only to later reveal that it could be used in tablet and phone development.

 

[Epic Fail Man]

To feel humiliation you first need to have a sense of shame and humility, the fuckers working at Sony have neither. They are too shameless and arrogant to even acknowledge that COD is in any way necessary or better that the fart huffing "games" they are producing.

Case in point:

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Dipshits like Druckmann and his ilk don't care about making fun experiences or pleasing the hardcore gamer audience, they just want a high pulpit for them to lecture and bludgeon their intellectual "inferiors" with their politics. They don't give a fuck if Sony loses COD or if it ends up sinking the company in the long run, they'll fail upwards and move on to another company or industry and continue spreading their cancer for as long as they are allowed to do so.

Remember when Naughty Dog made fun games about a bandicoot that thrusts while dancing?

 

[whatever I feel like]

What is a "credible gaming outlet" and how does Cinemablend, a mainstream news site owned by the same company that owns PC Gamer, Tom's Guide, and TechRadar not count as one?


EA dropped Wii U support long before it was clear it would flop, within the first year of its launch, after touting a major partnership with Nintendo. Ubisoft maintained support for far longer, despite no public proclamations of partnership. Trying to use the Wii U's eventual flop status as an excuse makes no more sense than EA trying to say that Frostbite was the reason because the Wii U couldn't support it, only to later reveal that it could be used in tablet and phone development.

Nice try, Future brought them in 2020, they had their own editorial line before that and, as a non-games focused site their "gaming rumors articles" can only be summed up in one word, garbage. And if you think those other companies gave the Wii U strong post-launch support, well..... well, you're fucking wrong. The most infamous cases being Ubisoft holding back Rayman's Wii U launch so it wouldn't launch later on Xbox (there's actually a huge story in there that I am skipping) and Sega reworking its Sonic exclusivity deal with Nintendo to include junk titles that had previously been specifically excluded.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

Nice try, Future brought them in 2020, they had their own editorial line before that and, as a non-games focused site their "gaming rumors articles" can only be summed up in one word, garbage.

That really doesn't answer my question of how they don't count as a "credible gaming outlet", or even what that phrase even means in this context. You can't attack the info a source provides so you've merely decided to undermine the source, and you're doing a pretty bad job of it. Pretty sure that's very similar to a certain logical fallacy...

And if you think those other companies gave the Wii U strong post-launch support, well..... well, you're fucking wrong. The most infamous cases being Ubisoft holding back Rayman's Wii U launch so it wouldn't launch later on Xbox (there's actually a huge story in there that I am skipping) and Sega reworking its Sonic exclusivity deal with Nintendo to include junk titles that had previously been specifically excluded.

But companies continued to support Wii U didn't they? They didn't cease all support, did they? Nor were they in any publicly touted partnership with Nintendo. Nor did they viciously and publicly attack the Wii U like EA did. You're grasping at straws here.