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I've pretty much erased the existence of western games from my mind, but you're right.
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Because it triggers less people than "you will own nothing and you will be happy"
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abandoning 30% of the money from every game on your platform so Last of Us, Horizon and Spiderman can sell a couple million more copies each and Cuckmann et al can fluff out their resume before leaving the industry.
They're still acting like their live service gambit didn't shit itself and die before even reaching the first hurdle.
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They are going to protect their existing PS Store and PSN revenue however long they can but if you take a long view they are probably right.
And if you assume that to be the case, how well positioned is Sony to take advantage? At the moment very poorly, whereas Microsoft has a clear vision for what their place is in that future.
And if you assume that to be the case, how well positioned is Sony to take advantage? At the moment very poorly, whereas Microsoft has a clear vision for what their place is in that future.
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I dunno, streaming services are really a terrible financial prospect for the normie who buys four or five games and thats it. Which, since a) the average attach rate for most consoles is, like, 7 or 8 games and b) sickos like me end up buying like 80 or 90 means that ten dollars a month is actually a major money sink compared to what a large part of the audience wants to put in. And it gets worse since the direct financial incentive to have everything just isn't there from the game provider's perspective. But, from the consumer's perspective they aren't just being asked to put in the money, they are also being asked to put in 10 to 100+ hours of time into a game- they do care about which game is offered, specifically. You can't just throw up Banjo-Kazooie and say thats enough to someone who wants Crash. They want Crash, not 90s platformer. And then you can already see how little a market there really is for tv/film streaming. Maybe "the cloud" works as a way to host gaming content in the future but I do not think that games bundling is it, ala carte purchasing still seems to be the way to go, IMO.
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Steam owns that market on PC and there aren't other options on mobile.
There are ways Sony could try to enter as a competitor to Steam but that road is paved with wasted money of many who have tried.
Maybe their play is PS Now, I don't know, but 10 -> 20 years out its hard to see why people would buy Sony's basic default console box vs just docking a phone or using a computer. An iPhone can already run the same next-gen games as a PS5, do you think Apple is never going to figure out how to make a Switch-style docking experience work for the masses?
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I don't do phone gaming and am speaking out of my ass here but my suspicion is that those mobile ports of console games would look like shit if blown up on a tv screen. I think you're missing a trick by asking to connect a phone anyway. They have the ability to run that stuff directly through smart tvs, which are the only kind of "decent" tv you can buy nowadays. Samsung already does it with Gamepass, it pops up on mine whenever I turn it on despite me having literally never used it.
But consoles have been "needless, useless" ever since home computers became the norm and yet here we are, twenty years later, and they're more popular than ever so who knows.
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That's a bit of a stretch
A bunch of emulators for Win95/98/DOS weren't exactly at peak performance back then, even for NES games. You had a lot of performance/bugs to deal with. By the time WinXP came out and started to mature, that's when emulators were O.K.-ish because you had things like 1964 and ePSXe, while the 8-16 bit era emulators were getting better.
Hell, we're at Win11, and we STILL don't have 100% functioning PS3/360 emulators for PCs. PS2 emulating scene had their entire emulator revamped last year thanks to the duckstation guy helping out with PCSX2.
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I think he means the idea of consoles, as in those games should just be on PC instead.
Except Nintendo won't let us
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You entirely missed the point of what I was saying.
Do we really need to hear you at this moment?
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Isn't this Sony outright announcing that PlayStation as console hardware is essentially over?
It is obvious that Microsoft isn't interested in continuing in the hardware space and instead delivering their content on anything with a screen and online connectivity. The era of the console is finally in its sunset years, everything is moving to being purely digital downloads. I think this is it, PS5 may be Sony's last console and if by some chance there is a PS6, it will be an entirely digital device with heavy streaming functionality in mind. The wild card is Nintendo which is the only one that could still hang on to physical media for a while but there is also the possibility for them to offer a version of their hardware that only works with digital download and no physical game card slots.
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I'll quote you again in 4 years.
Sure thing, whatever you say.
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For not owning a PS5 and only owning a Switch, you seem to get very much buttblasted at the prospect of Sony tapping out
It always comes back to "exclusives". Just 10 years ago there were still a lot of games coming out on Sony systems that nobody expected would hit PC, yet things have shifted a lot since then. Mostly the Japanese market losing it's fear of developing to PC indirectly killed Sony's grip of exclusives. Nips were not going to develop in the gaijinbox and Nintendo's prior consoles were either underpowered, had a meager install base or both, so the only real option was Sony. Those days are long gone.
The advantage of consoles is the plug and play aspect, but between consoles suddenly having more computer like problems (blue screens of death, games crashing) and PC games being simpler to set up than in older times (this isn't the same as properly optimized, mind you), both are suddenly surprisingly close.
I can count with one hand the last time I had to activelly fuck with mi PC to get a game to run in almost 10 years. Before that it was a lot more frequent and emulating anything beyond snes was a goddamn pain.
But the real killer could be what the Steamdeck started. Yes, it's a computer, I was able to setup a full emulation suite with some ingenuity (and it's still pretty simple). But if I just used it to run my steam library, it's almost stupid proof. The difference between it and a traditional console when it comes to ease of use is not that far apart.
I do think Sony will keep pushing PSN, but I don't think it will be that lucrative and something like a Stadia approach is a money vortex to setup. They could go into PC with their own version of the uplay and battlenets of the world, but that's another one I don't see achieving much.
Nintendo can stick to it's guns, they have enough of a fanbase that people are willing to put cash to keep playing their properties and release enough volume to sustain things, they have a healthy balance of small mid and high profile projects. Sony fucked itself with only releasing 3-5 year cycle games, too all in. They aren't an autism magnet like Nintendo, so even if they start going with smaller projects reviving older beloved licenses, they won't sell as consistently.
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@ShitLurker your post is just plain divorced from reality. Going "oh they're really fucked now" when they aren't really fucked now just makes you look dumb.
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I could say the same to you. But I'll proceed to just file anything you post on this thread as your own delusions and if my takes were shit you can quote me in 4 years too.
Or maybe I'll be the one quoting you.