Sony hate thread

[800 Chupacabras]

Would love to have the GoW Egyptian game return to how the games were on the PS2/PS3. Killing Egyptian gods with a raging Kratos would be great.

I was hoping for Aztec mythology - the perfect pantheon for him to go full ragebeast. Tezcatlipoca, the Smoking Mirror, subdues kidnaps Kratos with strange magic, hoping to impress his brethren with a mighty sacrifice. The sacrifice succeeds. However, Xolotl, psychopomp and former assistant to Quetzalcoatl, fetches his soul from Mictlān, hoping Kratos can help fulfill the prophecy of his master’s return. The god-bosses would be sick - a blood-drenched butterfly made of obsidian blades, a red giant wielding a fire-breathing snake, a hideous flayed sorcerer, an eerie animated doll made of corn husks… I could keep going, Aztec mythology is fucking awesome.

 

[UCT]

Whatever the exact reasoning, look at the difference between sony/xbox compared to nintendo. Nintendo are still consistently releasing games for franchises that have been going since the NES/SNES era. How many multi-decade long-running exclusives are sony and xbox still releasing these days?

Btw i don't particularly like modern day nintendo but they are the only big games company that is somewhat competent and has held onto the majority of their foundational talent and leaders from the good ol' days.

I think it’s because no matter their faults Nintendo still understand who their audience and customer base is. They are a company and they want to make money and want to make all of it. It also doesn’t hurt that Nintendo is just the games and stuff for the most part whereas PlayStation and Xbox are smaller parts to a bigger beast. What’s even worse is that it wouldn’t even be hard for Xbox and PlayStation to get back on track, just make smaller budget games with some of their IPs and stop trying to push messages over game play. Imagine the good will they would get if they released a new Ape Escape that was just fucking fun and the only black people in it were the apes!

 

[biggie bundu]

I think it’s because no matter their faults Nintendo still understand who their audience and customer base is. They are a company and they want to make money and want to make all of it. It also doesn’t hurt that Nintendo is just the games and stuff for the most part whereas PlayStation and Xbox are smaller parts to a bigger beast. What’s even worse is that it wouldn’t even be hard for Xbox and PlayStation to get back on track, just make smaller budget games with some of their IPs and stop trying to push messages over game play. Imagine the good will they would get if they released a new Ape Escape that was just fucking fun and the only black people in it were the apes!

Yeah sony could easily bring it back with the ps6 if they re-discovered some of their classic/forgotten franchises.

I know it gets said a lot on here, but they really are such a fucking joke at the moment. I genuinely cannot believe how appalling the ps5 exclusive lineup is. Just look at the absolute state of this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:PlayStation_5-only_games

The only game I would consider playing on that list is Astrobot, and that's only if the price was far lower. Games like Horizon, and "Intergalactic: the Heretic prophet" (in quotation marks due to the name being cringey, try-hard shite), you couldn't pay me to play.

I really don't know what people are playing on their ps5s. It has to be pretty much only normie-slop like FIFA and the like surely???

 

[Incecticyder]

Yeah sony could easily bring it back with the ps6 if they re-discovered some of their classic/forgotten franchises.

I know it gets said a lot on here, but they really are such a fucking joke at the moment. I genuinely cannot believe how appalling the ps5 exclusive lineup is. Just look at the absolute state of this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:PlayStation_5-only_games

The only game I would consider playing on that list is Astrobot, and that's only if the price was far lower. Games like Horizon, and "Intergalactic: the Heretic prophet" (in quotation marks due to the name being cringey, try-hard shite), you couldn't pay me to play.

I really don't know what people are playing on their ps5s. It has to be pretty much only normie-slop like FIFA and the like surely???

Unfortunately, with modern graphics, every game takes an entire decade to develop and the budget of a small developing nation.

 

[UCT]

Yeah sony could easily bring it back with the ps6 if they re-discovered some of their classic/forgotten franchises.

I know it gets said a lot on here, but they really are such a fucking joke at the moment. I genuinely cannot believe how appalling the ps5 exclusive lineup is. Just look at the absolute state of this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:PlayStation_5-only_games

The only game I would consider playing on that list is Astrobot, and that's only if the price was far lower. Games like Horizon, and "Intergalactic: the Heretic prophet" (in quotation marks due to the name being cringey, try-hard shite), you couldn't pay me to play.

I really don't know what people are playing on their ps5s. It has to be pretty much only normie-slop like FIFA and the like surely???

Astrobot is a ok game, don’t understand how its game of the year but I wouldn’t be shocked if it came to PC sooner rather than later so another reason not to buy a PS5 lol.

 

[Hermiöne Granger]

Woke goes out, stocks goes up...

Sony stocks hit new record high in Japan following corporate restructuring announcement

 

[WULULULULU]

I hope Horizon is wiped off the face of Playstation. Add The Last of Us into the list and give us a fucking Bloodborne port.

 

[big pauper]

Whatever the exact reasoning, look at the difference between sony/xbox compared to nintendo. Nintendo are still consistently releasing games for franchises that have been going since the NES/SNES era. How many multi-decade long-running exclusives are sony and xbox still releasing these days?

Btw i don't particularly like modern day nintendo but they are the only big games company that is somewhat competent and has held onto the majority of their foundational talent and leaders from the good ol' days.

nintendo hasn't released a culturally relevant game since super mario galaxy and has practically zero market pentration in large segments of the market despite having a core userbase of devoted fans. having cultural cache is extremely important but nintendo has been using that goodwill as fuel for their massive profits and its going to bite them in the ass once culture moves past millenials and there's a generation of kids who didn't grow up watching pokemon.

this is something that the big publishers have been hyper-fixated ever since daikatana failed and ion storm imploded and then halo came out and became the most popular shooter video game of all time, they put all of their eggs in what was confidently the most profitable basket and it overnight became irrelevant. the same thing basically happened to overwatch. ever since then big publishers have basically expected their cash cows to fail every 5 years and are obsessed with coming up with new ones, and that's put nintendo in a bad position because now there's an entire generation of kids who grew up playing games that came out after they started sitting on their laurels. nintendo doesn't have an answer to minecraft and they don't even consider that to be a problem and it's the writing on the wall for their future cultural relevancy

 

[biggie bundu]

nintendo hasn't released a culturally relevant game since super mario galaxy and has practically zero market pentration in large segments of the market despite having a core userbase of devoted fans. having cultural cache is extremely important but nintendo has been using that goodwill as fuel for their massive profits and its going to bite them in the ass once culture moves past millenials and there's a generation of kids who didn't grow up watching pokemon.

this is something that the big publishers have been hyper-fixated ever since daikatana failed and ion storm imploded and then halo came out and became the most popular shooter video game of all time, they put all of their eggs in what was confidently the most profitable basket and it overnight became irrelevant. the same thing basically happened to overwatch. ever since then big publishers have basically expected their cash cows to fail every 5 years and are obsessed with coming up with new ones, and that's put nintendo in a bad position because now there's an entire generation of kids who grew up playing games that came out after they started sitting on their laurels. nintendo doesn't have an answer to minecraft and they don't even consider that to be a problem and it's the writing on the wall for their future cultural relevancy

Nintendo are my favourite out of the big games companies at the moment, but I do generally agree with what you said. I think pokemon is definitely bound to fall off sooner rather than later. I mean, it already has fallen off in terms of quality, it's only a matter of time before the sales reflect that.

I also agree that nintendo don't have an answer to minecraft, or similar cultural phenomenon type games from the somewhat modern era. They have been trying, and failing, with their various escapades in to the "open-world" genre.

I think gaming is pretty doomed overall to be honest, but I think nintendo will last the longest out of the traditional big companies.

 

[Mad_Dog]

I want to go back...

 

[Fcret]

Kutaragi is gone. Olaffson is gone. Yoshida is gone.

We're never going back to 90s Sony. At best, we're going to go back to 2015 Sony.

 

[whatever I feel like]

All they had to do was hold onto their exclusives. If things had been handled differently, we could have been getting high quality new instalments in all of these series to this day:

Rayman
Metal Gear
Castlevania
Crash Bandicoot
Ape Escape
Vagrant Story (and countless other one-off square games)
Spyro

There's also countless other franchises they have held onto that have gone to shit like final fantasy and resident evil, now forsaken to the remake slop realm forever.

Started on Saturn, literally never PS exclusive
Started on MSX
Started on NES (and never left Nintendo, either)
Multiplat for last quarter century
Never a big deal (they do own it though)
Nobody cares about that shit
Multiplat for last quarter century

 

[whatever I feel like]

nintendo hasn't released a culturally relevant game since super mario galaxy and has practically zero market pentration in large segments of the market despite having a core userbase of devoted fans. having cultural cache is extremely important but nintendo has been using that goodwill as fuel for their massive profits and its going to bite them in the ass once culture moves past millenials and there's a generation of kids who didn't grow up watching pokemon.

this is something that the big publishers have been hyper-fixated ever since daikatana failed and ion storm imploded and then halo came out and became the most popular shooter video game of all time, they put all of their eggs in what was confidently the most profitable basket and it overnight became irrelevant. the same thing basically happened to overwatch. ever since then big publishers have basically expected their cash cows to fail every 5 years and are obsessed with coming up with new ones, and that's put nintendo in a bad position because now there's an entire generation of kids who grew up playing games that came out after they started sitting on their laurels. nintendo doesn't have an answer to minecraft and they don't even consider that to be a problem and it's the writing on the wall for their future cultural relevancy

Haha, sure thing dipshit.

 

[Two Dollars]

I also agree that nintendo don't have an answer to minecraft, or similar cultural phenomenon type games from the somewhat modern era. They have been trying, and failing, with their various escapades in to the "open-world" genre.

What are you talking about? Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom are the best selling Zelda games of all time by giant margins, and BotW in particular is one of Nintendo’s best selling games period, with a lot of people saying it was their game of the decade back at the end of 2019, almost three years after it released.

 

[biggie bundu]

What are you talking about? Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom are the best selling Zelda games of all time by giant margins, and BotW in particular is one of Nintendo’s best selling games period, with a lot of people saying it was their game of the decade back at the end of 2019, almost three years after it released.

Botw is ok. Totk is mediocre/bad. They can not compare to the sort of impact something like minecraft had.

 

[biggie bundu]

Started on Saturn, literally never PS exclusive
Started on MSX
Started on NES (and never left Nintendo, either)
Multiplat for last quarter century
Never a big deal (they do own it though)
Nobody cares about that shit
Multiplat for last quarter century

Every single one was a massive draw for sony in the early days. Now the only remnants they have of any of those franchises are remakes or remasters.

 

[big pauper]

Haha, sure thing dipshit.

when i have kids in 10 years there isn't going to be any of what you understand to be nintendo for them to hang their cultural understanding on. if you grew up with the n64 or snes around then you've probably played some of the classics that everyone talks about but once the wellspring of nostalgia runs dry the next generation of kids is going to have a 30 year long backlog of extremely well polished but forgettably derivative switch versions of super nintendo games they never played.

 

[big pauper]

What are you talking about? Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom are the best selling Zelda games of all time by giant margins, and BotW in particular is one of Nintendo’s best selling games period, with a lot of people saying it was their game of the decade back at the end of 2019, almost three years after it released.

breath of the wild is the far cry formula executed by japanese developers instead of ubisoft so it's without question the best version of that formula. they squeezed an order of complexity out of what most people expect from those kind of games by adding an inventory system that compliments the pacing and structure of the game. but... it's just more polished. its a pastiche of decades established gameplay concepts and doesn't take any of the risks necessary to elevate that kind of game further than what ubisoft pulls off a decade after the fact, especially when the novelty of an open world has far worn away. the fact that none of these obvious criticisms really ever get discussed is kind of the canary in the coal mine for modern nintendo

 

[biggie bundu]

breath of the wild is the far cry formula executed by japanese developers instead of ubisoft so it's without question the best version of that formula. they squeezed an order of complexity out of what most people expect from those kind of games by adding an inventory system that compliments the pacing and structure of the game. but... it's just more polished. its a pastiche of decades established gameplay concepts and doesn't take any of the risks necessary to elevate that kind of game further than what ubisoft pulls off a decade after the fact, especially when the novelty of an open world has far worn away. the fact that none of these obvious criticisms really ever get discussed is kind of the canary in the coal mine for modern nintendo

Yes i completely agree. Botw is ok, i might even go so far as to say it's good (7/10 maximum) if you've not played an open world game for a while. But, as you mentioned earlier, it was not a cultural phenomenon, and didn't break new barriers in the way that something like minecraft did. It was just a well refined take on the Ubisoft formula with a nintendo polish.

 

[Hey you in the bushes]

I really hope the new naughty dog game crashes and burns