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Group #3 is now being used as the scapegoat for not buying enough Ghost of Yotei physical discs to keep up with the Roblox kiddies and annual sports/COD crowd.

Playstation released a small catalog of questionable single-player exclusives this generation. Then they killed physical entirely when group #3 understandably refused to buy their overpriced trash. Now group #3 is currently being gaslit into believing that they collectively chose to kill physical.
I am so sorry but I have to be blunt here: they brought this upon themselves
For years I called out Snoy for being complete dipshits and they better off abandoning ship and go to Steam , Nintendo or whatever if they care about single player games because there’s nothing here. But “no” they said “you are trolling”

All I say is SUFFAH
 
1) The diehard annual sports and COD crowd. These franchises are treated as disposable. Multiplayer on the sports games shuts down a year or two after release (I don't know about COD). Physical copies have no resale value. There's not much incentive to buy physical, especially if you own a digital-only PS5.
They don't fall off as quickly as the sports games do but.. and just going by gamestop prices for which they'll likely give you a whopping 10% of what they'll sell it for yet retarded consoomers have refused to let this business fucking die(I need my resale value so I can sell it to gamestop for $2.50 and they sell it for $25 bullshit)

Black Ops 7(current game) $45
Black Ops 6 $25
Modern Warfare 3 $30
Modern Warfare 2 $20
Vanguard $10

Meanwhile
Madden 26(current game) $28
Madden 25 $7
Madden 24 $5
Madden 23 $2
Madden 22 $5

That's all PS5 pricing. For some reason the ps4 versions of madden go for more? Maybe because they're rarer or something? I don't know. CoD's value falls off but nowhere near as quickly as sports games, even if the next Madden and CoD are due out in a few months.

You've also forgotten another aspect of these games, and the consoomers that buy them. "pre-loading". Even though it's been stated for years to stop fucking preordering games, especially digital purchases of games, people continue to do it. But now, they can do their digital preorder, and a couple days in advance download the 150GB game and it's day 1 patch, and have it be playable at 12:01am launch day. Rather than lining up at Gamestop or wherever for midnight releases, then having to still drive home, install the game, and download a giant patch before being able to play.

Gamestop actually did a midnight release for black ops 7.
yeah i remember when midnight releases were HUGE for call of duty. i actually worked the gamestop midnight release and only 2 people came... & there were tons of people lined up with tents, blankets, lawn chairs, etc. waiting for the 10am release of pokemon phantasmal flames card expansion. mind you, one of those who came for the midnight release came to overnight for pokemon cards, just decided to get cod and the midnight release tote bag lol. so just one person showed up specifically for black ops 7 midnight release.
Sure it's an anecdote, but more people lining up for pokemon cards, and only 1 person actually showed up just for the midnight release of black ops 7 at their store.
This midnight release only seems to have been much of a thing because the youtube guy treated it like a meetup or something?

5 people

10 people, with more camping for a 10am release of pokemon cards

Now compare that shit to Black Ops 2 midnight release back in 2012

Clearly there has been a massive shift in buying habits, and it isn't like CoD is suddenly not selling anymore. And it's not just CoD either. You can find midnight release videos for Madden '12 and '13 with again tons of people lined up and madden still sells and rakes in a bunch of money thanks to microtransactions.

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Think about it. You're FromSoft, you've got other IPs to work on that don't involve Sony, and it's a safe bet that if you do use the IP that you're married to Sony with, Hermen Hulst if going to fuck you any way he can.
Makes sense, though in fairness they've had plenty of earlier opportunities to remaster/port the game prior to Sony's public exhibitions of retardation. Though of course you're completely right that they might have had internal indications earlier than that of Sony's mental decline. What was that old chestnut from a reasonably-sane developer? Something like "a game launched in bad shape will always be bad, while a game launched late will only be late once"? Maybe they're waiting out the contract clock knowing a late delivery is better than a shitty one.

This midnight release only seems to have been much of a thing because the youtube guy treated it like a meetup or something?
Damn ... I haven't seen a good midnight launch party in like ... two decades. Why are they still bothering? That shit was great back in the early 2000's, you had tents, fuckin' grills and cookouts, people made it into a god damn party. Hell, the decent store managers handed out water to make sure nobody passed out. Made it real fun and made sure people left happy.

Sigh... they don't do it like they used to :(. A 5-man turnout? I'd write to corporate and say "lol fuck you no, I'm not paying my staff to rot for hours after normal closing hours to sell a no-margin product to five people, this is bullshit."
 
Damn ... I haven't seen a good midnight launch party in like ... two decades. Why are they still bothering? That shit was great back in the early 2000's, you had tents, fuckin' grills and cookouts, people made it into a god damn party. Hell, the decent store managers handed out water to make sure nobody passed out. Made it real fun and made sure people left happy.

Sigh... they don't do it like they used to :(. A 5-man turnout? I'd write to corporate and say "lol fuck you no, I'm not paying my staff to rot for hours after normal closing hours to sell a no-margin product to five people, this is bullshit."
Absolutely. People want to say that physical media is still popular, I'd beg to differ with that. And remember, it wasn't just Madden and CoD that got midnight releases. Pokemon games, WoW expansions, Halo, Skyrim, Destiny, God of War 3, Gears of War, etc. You can find videos of all kinds of this shit from 2010-2015 and the lower turnout games would only have dozens of people and that's still more than modern Call of Duty. And it isn't like Gamestop didn't announce they were doing a midnight release for black ops 7, they did announce it.

Here's a midnight release for black ops 6, that looks like it had a whole 10 people in line
Compare it with the original modern warfare 2 release

I'm not saying I agree with Sony dropping physical sales. But clearly there's been a huge and obvious shift.
 
Saw this list of Sony fuckups float around. Truly astonishing.

1. Moving PlayStation's headquarters to the US... severing the ties to its Japanese roots and abandoning Japanese development, along with a change in leadership and terrible decisions.

2. The closure of Japan Studio—something I will never forgive—the studio that gave us so many wonderful and highly creative games, a studio that stood by PlayStation; a truly creative studio.

3. A scarcity of exclusives and the disappearance of studios... Nothing from Naughty Dog.

4. The rise in game prices to $80, coinciding with the arrival of the PlayStation generation.

5. PlayStation 4 to PlayStation 5 game upgrades for the $10 versions.

6. Collector's editions without the physical game—pulling off this disgusting stunt, little by little... Stupid stuff, like Spider-Man, God of War, Horizon.

7. The terrible quality of the PS5 controller—poorly built and plagued by stick drift—and the terrible quality of the PS5 hardware itself.

8. Games as a service, and Jim Ryan forcing so many studios to work on that crap terrible internal management all in an attempt to find a "golden goose" like *Fortnite*.

9. Concord, And PlayStation just doesn't learn.

10. The requirement to create a PlayStation Network account to play the PC ports.

11. The constant rise in prices across the board—such as a console that launched at $500 now costing $650—is making products inaccessible to consumers.

12. The removal of PlayStation Stars points.

13. PS Plus price hike... where content is inaccessible and they don't notify you which game is leaving the catalog.
They try to pull a fast one on you with these PS1 games, making you believe they're worth their weight in gold while barely adding any new content.

14. The case involving customs and tariff-related scams—where PlayStation failed to refund its customers—has led to lawsuits against the company.

15. The PlayStation Store monopoly—regarding the lawsuit filed against PlayStation in California...

16. They want to make it impossible to get a game anywhere other than the PS Store; that's what they want to do with the PS6.

17. PlayStation server outages that made it impossible to play digital games... A reminder of the importance of physical games.Where there is a reliance on a server

18. The abandonment of PS VR2—where the headset costs more than the console itself—and the abandonment of titles for it, The best games are from Capcom, because PlayStation hasn't made anything other than that piece-of-shit Horizon.

19. A reduction in the PS5 console's SSD capacity: the console's price remained the same, but the revision lowered the storage to 600 GB.

20. The PlayStation 5 Pro costs $800, without a stand or disc drive—you have to buy those separately.

21. DRM and mandatory connectivity—whatever happened to that "death counter" seen in digital games, where failing to connect within 30 days meant losing access to the content and the games themselves, Losing the game license

22. The PSN Store's dynamic pricing—where the price varies depending on the user—essentially punishes you if you buy a lot of games, setting higher prices for wealthier users.

23. Studio closures, cancellations, and mass layoffs. The ones that hurts the most are Evolution and Bluepoint Studios.

24. Take the case of PlayStation and the removal of 550 movies: regardless of whether you had purchased them, the content was taken away, causing you to lose access to those digital files.

25. The shutting down of the PS3 and PS Vita store... PlayStation's stupidity.

Where PlayStation acts arrogantly and believes itself to be untouchable.

26. The stupid, discriminatory censorship of Japanese games—where PlayStation comes down hard on small studios regarding censorship, yet doesn't apply the same standards to its own catalog... like in the case of *The Last of Us Part II*.
 
what few remember now that Steam was universally hared when it came out and was derided as a buggy piece of shit that prevented you from playing Half Life 2 and CS
The other ones I'm 99% sure I remember you *had* to install steam, make an account and connect to the internet to "activate", otherwise the discs were coasters.
I bought HL2 on release, still own the disc, so I can confirm that yes you were forced to install Steam to play it, and initially it required you to be online to run the game.

But do you know what Valve did when people complained about this stupid decision? They patched in an offline mode for Steam.

That's the difference between Valve and Sony/MS/Nintendo: the former is capable of learning from its mistakes and iterating on their designs, the rest consistently double down --see Sony's ongoing retardation with forced PSN accounts on PC-- and if you don't like it we've got a product for you: it's called the Xbox 360.
I'm just asking why the outcry over the physical media NOW and only towards consoles, yet this is a foregone conclusion and even derided against in the PC space.
Because on PC Steam isn't the only store in town. You can buy from places like GoG that give you the DRM-free executable which is yours for as long as whatever you've stored it on continues to function.

Without discs/carts on consoles you now have the manufacturer's digital store and that's it; they set the prices and everything you buy is tied to your account. And if anything happens to that account? Say goodbye to everything you purchased. Enjoy no refunds, baby child.

In short, for most people it's not about the loss of a physical item, it's about retaining the ability to access what you pay for.
PS2 exclusives had something for everyone.
You know what else they had? Tonnes of new IP. I think I crunched the numbers years ago with my PS3 collection vs PS2 and even back them the ratio of new original games versus sequels was hugely skewed. It only got worse with the PS4, and with the PS5 you could probably count completely new IPs on one hand.

Capcom, alone, probably came up with more new IPs in the 6th gen than the collective AAA industry has since.
 
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Absolutely. People want to say that physical media is still popular, I'd beg to differ with that.
Yes, is totally because of physical media not being popular, not because of the games being underwhelming.

BTW, the companies are trying to gaslight people into believing the "99% of gaming is digital" lie by deliberately counting DLC, addons and digital only games as "digital purchases", while at the same time, in Sony's case, not counting third party physical titles' sales in an exceptionally scummy, even by Sony standards, tactic.
 
And if anything happens to that account? Say goodbye to everything you purchased. Enjoy no refunds, baby child.
Steam is like that too, but Valve won’t ban your account for wrong speak like the console manufacturers. And I hope that the console manufacturers get sued like Valve did to enforce a fair refund window. But having said that, I don’t know what is the current refund window is for Microslop, Soyny, and Big N.


You know what else they had? Tonnes of new IP. I think I crunched the numbers years ago with my PS3 collection vs PS2 and even back them the ratio of new original games versus sequels was hugely skewed. It only got worse with the PS4, and with the PS5 you could probably count completely new IPs on one hand.

Capcom, alone, probably came up with more new IPs in the 6th gen than the collective AAA industry has since.
Yep. So many new IPs came out during those days. Now, you rarely get anything new and it’s mostly just shitty sequel after shitty sequel.
 
Soyny is much worse off than Microsoft, their gaming division is run by Californians

Tencent won't give two fucks, which is unironically based. Even funnier is the implication that anyone would want to copy a piece of shit like Horizon.
they will care after the injunctions bar them from selling it.
 
Imagine one day you get out of your apartment and walk down the street and everyone else just spontaneously pulls out a handgun and blows their head off.

You then get called a murderer and put in trial despite doing nothing.

That's basically Valve rn.
I know multiple normalfags that impotently seethe at Valve on a regular basis, and they're always a Sony pony or Nintendie, always having to cope with something like "oh Nintendo wouldn't do this!" at anything Valve does, the amount of seethe fatass Gaben generates could power his yacht indefinitely.
 
Been a little while since I looked at this:
25 listed. 7 of them just straight up aren't exclusive. 9 are unreleased, many of which don't even have a release year, let alone release date. Of the remaining 9, 2 are free downloads lasting 45 minutes and 2 hours, with virtually no replayability. Destruction allstars is a delisted live service that the servers shut down over a year ago and no one even realized until it was officially delisted. 2 of the remaining 6 are beyond irredeemable shovelware that only exist as exclusives because of how notoriously terrible and difficult the psn's refund policy is to navigate.
Of the remaining 4, you have:
Sons of Sparta, a $30 spinoff that plays and looks worse than hundreds of free flash games from 2 decades ago
Saros, a gay jeet cuck simulator
Ghost of Yotei, literal GoYslop, mediocre and unremarkable in every way, and a major step down from its surprisingly decent predecessor
Astrobot, the literal definition of "6.5/10, it's fine"

PS5 will be entering its SEVENTH year on the market in mere months, and the only thing it's adding in that time is wolverine, the sloppiest of capeslop, complete with Debra Wilson and manjaw Jean Grey.
9th gen is truly the no games generation.
 
But clearly there's been a huge and obvious shift.
Yeah, GameStop stopped selling games to sell funkopops.
Nobody is queuing with niggers at midnight in 2026 because Amazon will drop it at their doorstep 0.01 seconds after it's allowed to
"Most game sales are digital" In the same way that "most video game players are women"
A statistic that doesn't weigh the value of a "unit" and counts a set of swimsuit DLC outfits where you get 50 downloads for $5 as 50 digital sales.
All the same bullshit they pull to pretend Horizon is a franchise that sells trillions of copies
 
Steam is like that too, but Valve won’t ban your account for wrong speak like the console manufacturers.
It is, but the difference is I don't have to use Steam on my PC. Even if Gaben brings the hammer down on me all the games I have on GoG and Epic (free giveaways) continue to exist.

If I don't want to/can't use the PSN store and I can't buy discs any more, what the fuck am I meant to do with a PS6?
 
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