Space Station 13 and Its successors communities - Lolcows and milk... In spess

[geckogoy]

There shouldn't be a single lewd server anywhere on the hub

 

[Jotch]

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[enaR]

kid plays on normal servers, gets an invite from a pedo to play on a erp server,

I don't keep track of BYOND SS13 staff, but in SS14 there is unbelievably large staff overlap between 'normal' servers and 'ERP' servers to the point a lot of the 'normal' servers basically server as onboarding to ERP servers. I think it might be worse than SS13 because the more tumblr-esque demographic means that there's a lot more failsons whose only income is (1) monthly tugboat or parents and (2) furry porn commissions. Of the big servers (Wizden, RMC, Frontier, Goob, etc), all of them MULTIPLE staff members with WikiFur pages, porn twitters, and even global FurAffinity admins, as well as the everpresent Discord powerusers with or without rank selling 'commissions.'

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

this is how it generally works.
kid plays on normal servers, gets an invite from a pedo to play on a erp server, now that player has their age "confirmed" and they can use that first erp server as proof to get invited to any other ones. right now you can join with a new discord account and a new byond account and all you would have to do is make friends with one anti-social retard.

Is that how Citadel's headmin managed to get in underage or is that a newer construct?
Strange thing is I never hear any drama from VORE. But maybe because that's because they aren't listed have too niche of a playerbase.

It had that since day 1 and it doesn't really address any of the things I mentioned. Again, look forward to dozens of SS14 steam entries clogging up the store in the future.

Sorry, I just can't keep track of all the retardation so my mind gets jumbled at times.

 

[potato sack]

(A)

is so satisfying to see nobody trusts a word coming outta this raggedy ass faggedy ass sand nigger looking no bitches no life incel manchild ageplay pedo

delightfiul

 

[geckogoy]

lol mr disowned one

 

[Some Spaceman]

I don't keep track of BYOND SS13 staff, but in SS14 there is unbelievably large staff overlap between 'normal' servers and 'ERP' servers to the point a lot of the 'normal' servers basically server as onboarding to ERP servers. I think it might be worse than SS13 because the more tumblr-esque demographic means that there's a lot more failsons whose only income is (1) monthly tugboat or parents and (2) furry porn commissions. Of the big servers (Wizden, RMC, Frontier, Goob, etc), all of them MULTIPLE staff members with WikiFur pages, porn twitters, and even global FurAffinity admins, as well as the everpresent Discord powerusers with or without rank selling 'commissions.'

It is not nearly as bad in the SS13 side of things. Servers like Shiptest are basically tumblr groomcords with minors constantly being exposed to "yaoi" and "yuri". TGstation has several admins that frequent furry ERP servers. The legendary Iamgoofball plays more on Bubberstation, a furry ERP server that did not vet it's players until this month, than TGstation. It's degeneracy all the way down.

 

[BatterylessWatch]

It is not nearly as bad in the SS13 side of things. Servers like Shiptest are basically tumblr groomcords with minors constantly being exposed to "yaoi" and "yuri". TGstation has several admins that frequent furry ERP servers. The legendary Iamgoofball plays more on Bubberstation, a furry ERP server that did not vet it's players until this month, than TGstation. It's degeneracy all the way down.

Truth be told, probably both are as bad, its just that 13 had a headstart of about 10-15yrs over 14. If given more time, I'd say 14 can easily get worse. Such as for instance, one of the largest russian ERP servers (Lust Station) having a minor (Shved) as their owner, which would also run ads on youtube without tagging them as NSFW/+18.

 

[Dank Muskeg]

Truth be told, probably both are as bad, its just that 13 had a headstart of about 10-15yrs over 14. If given more time, I'd say 14 can easily get worse. Such as for instance, one of the largest russian ERP servers (Lust Station) having a minor (Shved) as their owner, which would also run ads on youtube without tagging them as NSFW/+18.

what kind of nigga runs ads for a ss14 server on YouTube for an erp server

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

My fellow retards, how close does everyone think the the OP posts 1/3 and 2/3 are ready for full on greytide after we move out of pg? I know the 2/3 needs the ss14 codebase stuff (someone who plays ss14 help me please on mechanics differences), and 3/3 still needs some work.

 

[Google.com]

My fellow retards, how close does everyone think the the OP posts 1/3 and 2/3 are ready for full on greytide after we move out of pg? I know the 2/3 needs the ss14 codebase stuff (someone who plays ss14 help me please on mechanics differences), and 3/3 still needs some work.

No mention of Skyrat in the erp section? Arguebly the start of the ERP era when it killed and splintered Citadel station. And the former host Xyel is still considered Hitler and a psychopath by everyone.

 

[enaR]

Another '14 server dehubbed today for underage ERP (archive)

 

[Google.com]

Another '14 server dehubbed today for underage ERP (archive)

Correction it wasn't the underage erp they primarily had a problem with, if they retagged the server as 18+ they were going to let it stay. The problem was they didn't want to talk to fagden.

Usually 1.4 is quite straight-forward to comply with. However, because of the measures in place to pre-emptively prohibit communication from hub staff, and an attempt at communication being immediately met with hostility, the decision has been made to escalate to a 3-strike dehub.

 

[enaR]

My fellow retards, how close does everyone think the the OP posts 1/3 and 2/3 are ready for full on greytide after we move out of pg? I know the 2/3 needs the ss14 codebase stuff (someone who plays ss14 help me please on mechanics differences), and 3/3 still needs some work.

Syke / Skye is still misspelled as I previously outlined here and you confuse them with Jesse

someone who plays ss14 help me please on mechanics differences

The most consequential technical differences from SS13 are:
1) Pixel movement. Movement is not locked to a grid. While a lot of people don't like this just for personal preference, it's also led to issues they have still been unable to fix years and years later like people constantly getting stuck in walls and lacking the ability for players to collide, letting you run under anybody's feet and making combat a joke.
2) Predicted networking. This enables the game to be more 'playable' at high ping. The networking model was made by Sloth, an Australian who cannot find anyone in his home country so he grooms teenagers half his age that live across the world in Spacemans. The issue with this is that, due to the high level of client trust, much more complex cheats are trivial compared to BYOND. Yes you can do a lot of shit in BYOND too but everything being on server stops some of the really egregious stuff. The discipline on validating client messages to server is also abysmal. For an example of another game that had this problem of trusting clients way too much, look at the crazy shit hackers were able to do in ARMA 2 / DayZ.
3) YAML / C# distinction. In SS13, just about everything is in DM. SS14 as a codebase is split into C# and YAML. While on its face this isn't a bad change, and in a commercial game for mod support or something this would be great, in practice is means the github is constantly clogged by PRs from technically illiterate retards adding more fetish clothing and pride pins. This is why, despite 30,000+ PRs, the game is less feature complete than goon's 2010 release r4407. I don't know how much it took to get to R4407, but they much have been literally orders of magnitude more effecient. In general for SS14, with few exceptions, core mechanics are incomplete, ugly, and janky, while there's thousands and thousands of keanu chungus wholesome 100 plushies and underwear and socks and genderspecial pride pins and references to furry porn memes that add nothing to the game besides making it uglier.

The problem was they didn't want to talk to fagden.

@Google.com You're right, they banned the guy on sight because he was in Plykiya's discord where Plykiya sent nudes to kids.

 

[spdopodksfposdf]

Another '14 server dehubbed today for underage ERP (archive)

Groomden did nothing when a 15 yr old was caught in Floofstation which is ran by a furfag

 

[PunishedTrover]

". - No mention of Skyrat in the erp section? Arguebly the start of the ERP era when it killed and splintered Citadel station. And the former host Xyel is still considered Hitler and a psychopath by everyone.

The start of the end, The Troons were the iceberg skyrat was the hull splitting.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

No mention of Skyrat in the erp section? Arguebly the start of the ERP era when it killed and splintered Citadel station. And the former host Xyel is still considered Hitler and a psychopath by everyone.

If you have any sause on the skyrat and sucessors please post them.

Syke / Skye is still misspelled as I previously outlined here and you confuse them with Jesse

Fixed.

 

[Red Frida]

I know the 2/3 needs the ss14 codebase stuff (someone who plays ss14 help me please on mechanics differences), and 3/3 still needs some work.

Inventory management in SS14 sucks. You need to right click a bag to open an entity menu and then select open. I think in SS13 right clicking a bag will just open it, because what else would you do with a bag? I actually forgot what the specific keys for that are in SS13 because at this point it's intuitive and I don't think about it. Not so with SS14.
There's also a 2d grid system for placing items into your bag, rather than just having the bag become full you have to manage how each object fits into your bag like Tetris.
This is intentional, the SS14 dev troons think SS13 is too fast so this is a speed bump because high skill ceilings are bad.

But they're considering maybe creating a hot key for opening bags in another year or two once they're done gooning.

If you don't like it you can spend time to code something similar to SS13 and then have them reject your PR because they already decided they don't like SS13's system. But it's not a group of devs making these decisions.

https://archive.is/3aeFw

Also interactions use line of sight and not tiles so you can be on a "tile" next to an object but not use it if a wall's pixels are between you and the object.

Generally speaking the UI to SS14 is intentionally worse than SS13's at every opportunity, and it's unclear what problems the SS14 engine solves for a normal space station server.

 

[enaR]

it's unclear what problems the SS14 engine solves for a normal space station server.

Ship servers are fun if nothing else. Hullrot has been shilled here before and it's not something you could make in BYOND. There's a lot of stuff people *could* do that isn't possible in BYOND but generally there's a huge void of talent that can actually take advantage of those opportunities. Most of the community right now seems to be made up of furries, sex pests, and kids all too retarded to install BYOND. The rest are Linux users, obviously overrepresented in development, and they are only a very marginal improvement. Look at the Open Source Software community thread to see what those guys are like. At least they can read and write English though.

 

[Red Frida]

Ship servers are fun if nothing else. Hullrot has been shilled here before and it's not something you could make in BYOND. There's a lot of stuff people *could* do that isn't possible in BYOND but generally there's a huge void of talent that can actually take advantage of those opportunities.

Yes. To be clear I am not shitting on hullrot or the other servers that actually take advantage of what you can do with SS14's engine. The UI still sucks but you can do things byond can't.
But why would anyone want to make a tgstation clone using SS14?
Probably part of the reason wizden hates other servers and wants to dehub them.