Last Wednesday, plenary session of the Chamberí District Board ended with Vox spokesman, Álvaro José Belda Copado, expelled after calling Jimena González, the trans spokesperson for Más Madrid in the district, “Don Jaime”. OKDIARIO gained access to the video of the moment in which the fight took place after González denounced the issue on social media.
It all starts when Belda refers to the member of Más Madrid as "Don Jaime", who, according to herself, began her transition from man to woman two years ago. At that moment, González jumps up and interrupts the Vox member's intervention to request a "point of order" for the "obvious and notorious lack of respect in which he has just incurred."
The request, however, is not met by the president of the plenary session, the PP councilor Francisco Javier Ramírez Caro, who argues that it is not a matter of order and ignores González's repeated requests to suspend the session. After a few minutes of scuffle between the spokesperson and the president of the plenary session, and while the members of Más Madrid make the threat of getting up and leaving the plenary session, Ramírez decides to suspend it.
The recording is interrupted at that moment and resumes with the president's words in which he asks the Vox spokesman to "rectify and apologize" for having called Jimena "Don Jaime". The Vox spokesman refuses and asks to continue with his turn to speak, while the Más Madrid bench stands up en bloc and leaves the session.
Belda justifies her refusal to withdraw her words to the fact that the spokesperson for Más Madrid appears as "Jaime González" in the official composition of the Chamberí District Board that is included on the Madrid City Council website. «The composition of the Board of Chamberí says that the spokesman for the municipal group of Más Madrid is Jaime González Gómez. I'm sorry, but I don't know all their names," argues the Vox spokesman. (NT: he uses the neutral 'sus', which I'm translating here as 'theirs' because there is no gendered translation for his or her in Spanish. Both are the same).
The president insists that he should rectify, but (Belda) insists on his argument: "I cannot rectify when your name is written in the composition." The president repeated the request for rectification on numerous occasions, but without success until he interrupted the plenary session again.
When the broadcast resumes, the president affirms that he is very sorry for what happened and points out that "it is a shame" that "a person has been directly attacked, especially their dignity." “We know the process you are going through. It is true that the full name appears in the documents because since the process hasn't finished, it has to legally appear like that, they do not allow us to change it. But I do ask the Vox spokesperson to apologize and leave, because he has said it in a way that the spokesperson understands has been offensive and all members of the Board must be respected for the benefit of the district and all the residents and continue with the agenda, which is what we are all here for, ”says the president.
Nevertheless, the Vox spokesman did not give in and did not withdraw what he said. "I don't know all the names of the members of Más Madrid and I have consulted the composition of the board and his name was Jaime. We are sorry that he or she felt offended, of course, it'ss not up to us to evaluate that," he explained.
The president, citing article 41 of the regulations, calls the Vox spokesman to order and, once again, asks him to back down, apologize and remove his words from the minutes. "I repeat that we will not remove it," Belda responded. For the second time, the president calls the Vox spokesman to order, to which he replies that he requests in turn that he call the PSOE spokesperson to order for calling his municipal group "xenophobic". After a third unsuccessful request, the president asks the Vox spokesman to leave the plenary session.
_
The troon in question looks familiar
He doesn't look like him always, but he does in this screencap... scrolling down I thought it was him.
src
It all starts when Belda refers to the member of Más Madrid as "Don Jaime", who, according to herself, began her transition from man to woman two years ago. At that moment, González jumps up and interrupts the Vox member's intervention to request a "point of order" for the "obvious and notorious lack of respect in which he has just incurred."
The request, however, is not met by the president of the plenary session, the PP councilor Francisco Javier Ramírez Caro, who argues that it is not a matter of order and ignores González's repeated requests to suspend the session. After a few minutes of scuffle between the spokesperson and the president of the plenary session, and while the members of Más Madrid make the threat of getting up and leaving the plenary session, Ramírez decides to suspend it.
The recording is interrupted at that moment and resumes with the president's words in which he asks the Vox spokesman to "rectify and apologize" for having called Jimena "Don Jaime". The Vox spokesman refuses and asks to continue with his turn to speak, while the Más Madrid bench stands up en bloc and leaves the session.
Belda justifies her refusal to withdraw her words to the fact that the spokesperson for Más Madrid appears as "Jaime González" in the official composition of the Chamberí District Board that is included on the Madrid City Council website. «The composition of the Board of Chamberí says that the spokesman for the municipal group of Más Madrid is Jaime González Gómez. I'm sorry, but I don't know all their names," argues the Vox spokesman. (NT: he uses the neutral 'sus', which I'm translating here as 'theirs' because there is no gendered translation for his or her in Spanish. Both are the same).
The president insists that he should rectify, but (Belda) insists on his argument: "I cannot rectify when your name is written in the composition." The president repeated the request for rectification on numerous occasions, but without success until he interrupted the plenary session again.
When the broadcast resumes, the president affirms that he is very sorry for what happened and points out that "it is a shame" that "a person has been directly attacked, especially their dignity." “We know the process you are going through. It is true that the full name appears in the documents because since the process hasn't finished, it has to legally appear like that, they do not allow us to change it. But I do ask the Vox spokesperson to apologize and leave, because he has said it in a way that the spokesperson understands has been offensive and all members of the Board must be respected for the benefit of the district and all the residents and continue with the agenda, which is what we are all here for, ”says the president.
Nevertheless, the Vox spokesman did not give in and did not withdraw what he said. "I don't know all the names of the members of Más Madrid and I have consulted the composition of the board and his name was Jaime. We are sorry that he or she felt offended, of course, it'ss not up to us to evaluate that," he explained.
The president, citing article 41 of the regulations, calls the Vox spokesman to order and, once again, asks him to back down, apologize and remove his words from the minutes. "I repeat that we will not remove it," Belda responded. For the second time, the president calls the Vox spokesman to order, to which he replies that he requests in turn that he call the PSOE spokesperson to order for calling his municipal group "xenophobic". After a third unsuccessful request, the president asks the Vox spokesman to leave the plenary session.
_
The troon in question looks familiar
src
