Speedrunning Thread (Take 2) - GOTTA GO FAST

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ducktales4gameboy said:
I can't stand Minecraft in a speedrun context but I'm curious, are they racing a preset seed? I think the ultimate autism in the community is people who 'speedrun' roguelikes or randomizers. It can be done entertainingly like the lttp randomizer races but seeing screenshots of streamers running something like binding of Isaac with splits visible just baffles me.
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I don't know to what extent it is "officially" tracked if any, but I have seen videos of MC speedrunners who use random seeds. Of course this means the times they are capable of on any given run are going to vary wildly depending on, for example, what biomes they start in or near. But there's still consistent strategy in terms of what enchantments and tools are worth getting, how to fight the ender dragon, etc.

I think that randomness is a big part of Minecraft, though. If the runners run against a pre-defined seed, then they already know exactly where to go to find the resources they need, so it pretty much just becomes a matter of fighting the dragon.

I'm not sure if this is how they actually do it, but I think the best way to run it in a competitive contest would be to have a random but pre-defined seed that you send to all the competitors at the same time right before they start and then see who finishes first. That'd be a good middle-ground way of determining who has the fundamentals down the best, I think.
 
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Yeah, that's how the aLttP and Soul Blazer randomizer races work. Those are actually fun to watch if they've got good commentators, especially if the randomization throws some super important item way off in the middle of nowhere and you get to see all the runners just suffer for an extra 10 minutes trying to find it.
 
According to wq, who knows his shit, the Lttp randomizer community is rife with cheaters who will do things like look at seeds early or watch others feeds to see who is getting which item where and if those items are worthwhile. That info is like a year plus old though.
 
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According to wq, who knows his shit, the Lttp randomizer community is rife with cheaters who will do things like look at seeds early or watch others feeds to see who is getting which item where and if those items are worthwhile. That info is like a year plus old though.
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Why do people even bother competing if not for the fun of it? Was it like that before streaming became a career choice?
 
Haven't seen it mentioned yet, but AGDQ is happening this Sunday. These online only events have been pretty forgettable overall, so I wouldn't get my hopes up over any potential drama. Might get a couple of okay runs or at least some so bad it's good style commentary from a runner or two.
 
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Beresford's Whip said:
If nothing else at least they won't have to deal with the crowd yelling "Wah" or whatever annoying shit they latch on to every year.
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Are we still going to have to deal with donation being read over the entire run and the commentator getting pissy if they don't let them read them?
God I miss the peak era of speedrunning between 2011 -2014. Then I come back years later to twitch and srl is dead, everyone is a fucking tranny and twitch has an IRL section absolute madness.
 
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Beresford's Whip said:
If nothing else at least they won't have to deal with the crowd yelling "Wah" or whatever annoying shit they latch on to every year.
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It still brings me joy and glee that ZFG's run wasn't ruined by the people screaming HONK and that a total of 5 donations were read during his entire 3 hour speedrun. God bless.
 
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RageSalve said:
Having watched SGDQ, you're correct that the dumb crowd stuff won't be there, we just get the incessant activism instead, BLM/trans rights shit at the end of half of the runs.
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There has been a lot more activism in the non-A/S GDQ streams this year. Makes me a little curious how they will be handling things. The past two or so years they had actually been clamping down on embarrassing stuff.
 
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Apollo Legend said:
Please download and share https://www.mediafire.com/file/i35vo3...

I love you all.

Thank you to DarkViper and EZScape for giving me the final push that I needed.

I tried to hold myself back in the video but I can’t help it. People have no clue what I deal with everyday. When I was about five years old my dad threw me on the ground and covered my mouth and nose to where I couldn’t breathe and screamed into my face because I wanted to play some game that he was playing and that’s how he treated us everyday. I couldn’t even tell that story without crying until I was 18 or so. I have scoliosis which causes my back, hips and shoulders to ache constantly. I’m sick everyday, I throw up often. My medicine makes me vomit but then if I don’t take it I vomit. My body is completely useless, I can’t do anything. I’m completely out of my mind, all my thoughts are so painful and aggravating and because I’m mentally ill everything I say online gets used to make me look like a bad person. I’m not a bad person, I’m under incredible stress. Try living with this much pain and let’s see the decisions you make. That’s only the stuff I’m comfortable talking about, there is more that’s even worse.

The speedrun community are such hypocrites. They pretend to care so much about everyone’s feelings and then in the same video they call you retarded scum, I know I exposed people for cheating but I never said anything like that. They tell me they agree with me privately and then publicly betray me. If I complained about my life all the time then I bet they’d see me as relatable but because I try to push through it and act normal, they hate me.

My greatest thanks to Tom, Jonas, Nick, Brad, Sonfloro, Tipster and Keem for being great friends even if I didn’t always give you a reason.
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Holy shit, I hope he gets the help he needs instead of doing anything like suicide. This lawsuit probably hasn't helped his mental state either, TBH.

ETA: Transcoded the video down to 720p so I could upload it here, just in case the MediaFire link goes down.

 
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Bender said:
If he has actually committed suicide I hope Billy Mitchell has a long life of sleepless nights wracked with guilt.
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I doubt that. Also, if anything, the community condemning him to get good boy points with Resetera was probably a bigger blow. Well, that and the crippling disease.
 
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Since all the Apollo stuff seems to be talked about in its own thread, here's an update on the Minecraft cheating thing.

r/speedrun - Speedrun mods response to dream (6 pages)

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It's basically just a formal version of what's been said earlier, the mods stand by their analysis, Dream is still considered a cheater. Might prompt another response, but the community certainly has other things on their mind right now. Apparently, Karl Jobst planned to release a video on this tomorrow and if anyone can convince people it's him, but I would be very surprised if it wasn't delayed for obvious reasons.
 
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That Stupid Fucking Tree said:
It still brings me joy and glee that ZFG's run wasn't ruined by the people screaming HONK and that a total of 5 donations were read during his entire 3 hour speedrun. God bless.
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Thank you for sharing this. This speedrun is some genuine entertainment.

AGDQ is utterly unwatchable now even as background noise. I don't care for a single femtosecond about the politics or drama of the stream, that's just set dressing for some amusement. But the same donation messages written by a bunch of clueless yobbos being read by possibly the most uncharismatic hosts, the crowd yelling the same word every minute as if it gets any less unfunny with each repetition, and the runners either doing their best impersonation of nails on a chalkboard or staying dead silent with no color commentary, all combined a single unpleasant package, makes it nearly impossible to enjoy in any capacity. It's telling how even genuine fans don't even bother trying to act like it's possible to watch without trying to stab your eardrums out, instead merely excusing it as "not that bad." ZFG not giving the crowd nor the announcer any opportunity to be annoying is almost more cathartic than the very real intrigue from his play.
 
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