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I wonder wtf the deal was with that one sonic and spawn multiverse comic. That was odd
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Spawn is only in a single panel. that exists because Ken Penders was alongside writing sonic going to do an Image Universe creator owned book and it was a crossover between them basically. also Jim Valentino was going through a divorce and had a little kid who liked Sonic so he worked on it and allowed it to happen for that reason. it was to introduce some of those Penders characters but only a single issue of his image book ever came out. Batman and Popeye are in it for a panel too.I wonder wtf the deal was with that one sonic and spawn multiverse comic. That was odd
I saw that today and was curious about it. Is it its own continuity? Right now I'm reading Unnatural Order. It's kinda neat, and I really like the art, but boy did I just see a page that would haunt me forever if I was the artist.Anyone reading Batman Dark Age? It's very strange but I kinda like it. Allred art, a slightly odd origin, a redux of Sionis' gang from the early 90s.

I love Allred's past work on Batman, so it's regrettable I'm letting this one pass.Anyone reading Batman Dark Age? It's very strange but I kinda like it. Allred art, a slightly odd origin, a redux of Sionis' gang from the early 90s.
Seems to be so far, 3 was out as of last weekIs it its own continuity


I think the idea of Orchis and Nimrod manipulating and building up all this shit was cool. The issue is just that the Krakoa era sucked ass at executions of everything.So the Krakoa era is officially over. As much as I hold that I enjoyed its high points (and accept the peripheral books were mostly arse), I have to admit they really botched the end. Simultaneously too dragged out (because there was a lot of ground to cover) and too rushed (because they gave them too little time to cover said ground).
The biggest mistake was giving Duggan the main title and putting him in charge of the "mundane" side of the finale, the war against Orchis and Nimrod. Gillen handled the more convoluted and metaphysical side of the finale, the battle with the extratemporal ultimate AI, Enigma, and he did a good job all things considered. But Duggan is just so fucking unimaginative, so sloppy, so checklist-minded, his side of things just dragged everything down.
Ah man in the '00s, the whole Cyclops rescue woulda been its own crossover story. The entire last segment of the Krakoa era woulda been so cool with all the possible collab/crossovers. It pisses me off.In the end:
Fall of the House of X + X-Men: Cyclops is sentenced to death by Orchis, but the X-Men rescue him. As noted, every problem or loose thread or enemy gets checked off of the list, one by one, quickly and unsatisfyingly. Every threat that in other books took great feats to defeat, now get taken out by just some simple attacks, often drawn by Noto in the stiffest, most boring way possible. At one point there's a planet-killer machine coming to destroy Earth, and they one-shot it by teleporting the SWORD space station into it. They also bring the Brood, and the mutants from Mars (both the Arakko ones and the ones from Earth that got exiled there). Even Nimrod, the definitive adaptive sentinel with multiple bodies gets all of his iterations destroyed by several mutants hitting him with his powers simultaneously.
Tony marrying Emma is interesting but why I feel like it's going to go sideways inevitably.Avengers/Iron Man/Magneto tie-ins: Mags gets resurrected via some introspective journey through hell thing with Storm's help, The Avengers release a bunch of mutants from Orchis prisons, Iron Man fights a ton of sentinels to draw them away from the X-Men.
Enigma. . . an AI.Rise of the Powers of X + Dead X-Men + X-Men Forever: Most of the mutants of Krakoa are stuck on the White Hot Room, and the Phoenix and Jean are dying because one of the Essex clones tried to use them to ascend to godhood, and failed, giving rise to Enigma, the ultimate Essex AI who lives outside of time. Hiding in an undetectable place also outside of time, Xavier and a group of selected mutants (including Rachel Grey, as well as Sinister, secretly hiding in a clone of Doug) start an operation to try to prevent the creation of. They fail, so they move to try to reach Moira before her powers awaken in her last life and convince her to avert this future; but Xavier secretly plans to kill her. When he tries, the other rest of the team convinces him not to, and he moves onto another plan: to send Rachel to the WHR (by, uh, killing her) to try to heal the Phoenix so it can deal with Enigma. Rachel helps Hope revive the Phoenix and Jean (and sort of dies and/or becomes it or part of it, and irrevocably links the Phoenix to Jean -and I guess to hot redheads in general-); all the fighting mutants return to the present to join the Orchis war, while hundreds of thousands of non-fighting mutants stay behind in the WHR. Meanwhile he goes to the present and joins Nimrod to help him destroy humanity in exchange for the survival of mutants in their own little preserve (as stated, in the other books, Orchis, Omega Sentinel, and Nimrod are defeated handily, so that didn't pan out). Enigma shows up with all the other Dominions to fight Phoenix but they say "we don't really care, see ya losers" and bail. Enigma then tries to alter history and Phoenix hunts him down and undoes his fuckery, and ultimately does a spiritual SNIKT that Gold Experience Requiems him, causing him to be perpetually dying and screaming throughout all of universal history. Moira, who helped by providing the Phoenix a beacon to find Enigma, dies and gets an 11th life, as a reward, in which she's powerless and free.
Okay, fine. Is Magneto actually gonna be a permanent hero now? Can we stop flip-flopping on all this?X-Men Final issue: Xavier is captured for his crimes, Wolverine tries to kill him but Mags stops him. They have a talk, and of course Xavier says that Mags' current position of defending the oppressed regardless of if they're humans or mutants is essentially him admiting "Xavier Was Right". The White Hot Room Krakoa and its mutants reappear in the present, 15 years older, and having resurrected all the millions of dead Genoshan mutants (FUCK UP THO: these mutants were supposedly already resurrected in the far past, becoming the Threshold civilization from that god awful Marauders book), but while some chose to stay in the present, most will return with Krakoa to the WHR. This causes a fight, Apocalypse wants to lead them but they reject him, so he fights a bunch of the X-Men but ultimately accepts his time is over, and leaves. Krakoa and the millions of faceless non-X-Men mutants fuck off to the WHR (and presumably die on the way to their home planet). Xavier ends up imprisoned but still has some ways to use his powers and covertly protect random mutants from bigots sometimes I guess. And the rest of the issue is setup for From The Ashes which I don't care about.
Could always read Olaf Stapledon's Odd John. It's a '30s sci-fi novel about a deformed mutant with godlike powers. Apparently it coined the term "homo superior". It's apparently pretty influential. I'll read it someday.It's been a ride. Again, I enjoyed it overall, but the rushed and sloppy final leg of the race really sours things for me. I can mostly ignore the shitty side books, but this part is the one that really hurts.
With this, I think I'm out of mainstream comics. Nothing that the Big 2 are putting out interests me in the slightest (with the exception of keeping a curious eye on Ultimate Spider-Man), and neither do most of the books from the smaller publishers.
what sucks is that we had so many cool ideas like Rockslide's personality change, Betsy Braddock reclaiming her original body, Nightcrawler trying to be a spiritual leader and uncover Onslaught and etc. All stuff that woulda been really cool in the hands of competent writers.The Krakoa Era of X-Men got exactly the ending it fucking deserved---a lousy ending for a lousy era. This 5-year fart of an experiment did absolutely nothing for the characters, and won't even be a footnote in their major history in all future retrospectives looking back at the 2020s. No tension, no interpersonal drama, no soap opera storytelling, no regard for character histories or past relationships...nothing but high concept cerebral piss, mutant round table politics and shitty prom dances. Can't imagine why this status quo was selling like liquid feces only two years into its existence.
I guarantee you that 99.99999999999999999999999999% of the people whining about throuple erasure aren't comics fans.The only silver lining is that from interviews alone, the new editorial team is looking to pull a Post-Morrison and retcon most if not all the mistakes that occurred in this era. Already, Tom Brevoort has come out saying that the stupid-ass polyamorous throuple relationship between Cyclops, Wolverine and Jean Grey that Hickman came up with will not only be severed come the new comics, but that officially, it never happened in the first place--not even off-page, where it was previously implied to happen. They are literally deleting this shit like they did with Xorn in New X-Men, and the Krakoa Stans are losing their minds on social media, shrieking about the "throuple erasure."
I will happily read the new status quo out of spite, just to relish in every other thing from Krakoa that the new comics retcon into oblivion, and savor the tears of every retard that stanned for the Groomer Island Saga with all their might.
sounds like the Ultimate books are at least fun. How's the Black Panther and X-Men?X-Men is for fags
Ultimates 1 came out (I also read the free comic book day special) and all I gotta say is, we are so fucking back. Hank and Jan are a healthy couple, Cap is getting his golden age brother back, Reed-Doom is great, no fag shit, a suicide joke, mocking the french…… it brings a tear to my eye.
That Cap reaction needs to be a meme template. Little Tony and unenhanced scrawny Reed restraining a deranged boomer is hilarious.
616 is garbage containment, Avengers? Never heard of her, Ultimates stand supreme.
I didn't like the mini that started this new ultimate line, but hey, Ult Spidey is good, Ult Avengers started alright. Haven't read Ult Black Panther, but Ult X-Men is very different. It's a very slow-moving, painterly, manga-style story about a little girl in Japan dealing with a ghost-curse thing, while also being a mutant.sounds like the Ultimate books are at least fun. How's the Black Panther and X-Men?
That's pretty much all anyone praises when it comes to the Krakoa Era: its "potential", and nothing else. Not its actual story, or plotting, or character interactions...the ideas behind the concept. But an era can't run on ideas or potential for five years, anymore than a car can run on fumes. Potential is virtually all Hickman brought to this era...what he didn't bring was an actual story. He was content spinning his wheels, shitting out empty world-building and data sheets, instead of actually pushing the story forward. And his co-writers like Vita Ayala and Gerry Duggan (many of which he personally requested to be part of the Krakoa Writing Team, btw, in case anyone wants to cling to this notion that "Hickman did nothing wrong and he was fucked over by his lesser colleagues"), didn't do much better with the concept.I think the idea of Orchis and Nimrod manipulating and building up all this shit was cool. The issue is just that the Krakoa era sucked ass at executions of everything.
Duggan shoulda been given some side-story while they gave the finishing of Krakoa to like. . . I don't know. I'd take anyone even semi-competent.
And Bastion already did the definitive "AI Nemesis of Mutantkind" concept all the way back in the Decimation Era with the Messiah Trilogy and X-Force...because you had writers like Craig Kyle and Chris Yost, who could tackle that concept well.We have Bastion/Nimrod and Ultron. No other AI villain is ever gonna succeed in Marvel unless it's on par with them lmfao.
I've lost count of how many times I've seen ads for various series over the years, from various publishers ranging from the Big Two to ones who were active during the 80s Black and White boom, and so on and having my interest piqued only to research and find out the title never came to be.I was reading New Mutants and came upon this ad.
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Did anything ever come of it? I can find literally zero information about it beyond that image and even that I can't actually find by searching for it. Reminds me of the ad for the Puma miniseries that never happened. Also that Batman mini written by Tom Fontana that was advertised but never materialized.
Man posts like that take me back. Comic shops (where u find them) have become to...sterilized like more so than nessicary to the point you can smell the new chemically dipped paper companies print on these days. It's like that old mr burns linereminded in part of this one grubby little comics shop, not a good place, the stereotypical hole-in-the-wall with the windows pasted over with faded posters for forgotten comics crossovers and a carpet that had probably last been cleaned in the middle of the Bush administration
As a kid the place near me smelled musty and had stuff on the shelves from the seventies from when it first opened up. I actually picked up an old Fourth World issue off the shelf. I was able to get some older, out of print TPBs from there, but at the time it was off putting because the guy running it seemed to be pissed off any time someone came in and there was this air that even though it was a store, you were going into someone's house. But it was the only option so I kept going back until it closed down almost a decade ago.Man posts like that take me back. Comic shops (where u find them) have become to...sterilized like more so than nessicary to the point you can smell the new chemically dipped paper companies print on these days. It's like that old mr burns line
Too cold and sterile where's the heart?![]()
We had a place near me that was in the bottom of a black church and only open on Sundays. It was wall-to-ceiling filled with longboxes. No new comics. Just old shit stuffed into every square of space and, while you browse, constant stomping and noise from the church service going on above you. I miss that kinda shit. The atmosphere. The discovery of finding some weird gem tucked away in a corner somewhere. Pre-internet days, so faggy youtube speculators hadn't picked everything clean yet.As a kid the place near me smelled musty and had stuff on the shelves from the seventies from when it first opened up. I actually picked up an old Fourth World issue off the shelf. I was able to get some older, out of print TPBs from there, but at the time it was off putting because the guy running it seemed to be pissed off any time someone came in and there was this air that even though it was a store, you were going into someone's house. But it was the only option so I kept going back until it closed down almost a decade ago.
I always thought it was a weird way to run a business, but the more stories I hear, the more I realize Comic Book Guy was a more wide-spread thing than I thought.
My place was the local Walmart.We had a place near me that was in the bottom of a black church and only open on Sundays. It was wall-to-ceiling filled with longboxes. No new comics. Just old shit stuffed into every square of space and, while you browse, constant stomping and noise from the church service going on above you. I miss that kinda shit. The atmosphere. The discovery of finding some weird gem tucked away in a corner somewhere. Pre-internet days, so faggy youtube speculators hadn't picked everything clean yet.