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Clyde Cash's Left Teste said:
I think a big issue with modern day comics is a lack of real character drama that isn't some bs gimmick. I've been watching Ranma 1/2 and I kept thinking that one thing that we really don't see anymore is a good odd fashoned love triangle.
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well not since the Krakoa era turned the Jean-Cyclops-Logan triangle into an attempted polysexual group and then Marvel walked back and retconned that so we may that love triangle again.
 
Clyde Cash's Left Teste said:
Poly relationships never end well if everybody is banging everybody
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I really was hoping Krakoa would go down the path of Onslaught/Shadow King's mass possession unleashing everyone's innate hedonism for a very creepy spin on everything with the "free love" because it would have really pissed off twitter.

Leave the creepy and unsettling stuff implied.

But uh, no, Nightcrawler concludes Onslaught isn't a problem because. . . what exactly?
 
Alexander Thaut said:
I really was hoping Krakoa would go down the path of Onslaught/Shadow King's mass possession unleashing everyone's innate hedonism for a very creepy spin on everything with the "free love" because it would have really pissed off twitter.

Leave the creepy and unsettling stuff implied.

But uh, no, Nightcrawler concludes Onslaught isn't a problem because. . . what exactly?
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modern comics make me want to die in how stupid and bad they are
 
God of Nothing said:
modern comics make me want to die in how stupid and bad they are
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it's so bad that i've done a 180 and am just going through as much old sci-fi/fantasy/pulp/detective/adventure fiction.

turns out there's a lot of kino and i can get old used SF books for cheaper than a new issue of a comic.

My copy of Christopher Priest's Inverted World? 2 bucks. Hardcover with dust jacket, it's from the '70s. It's a book that's been recommended to me as a classic. I'm guaranteed good quality entertainment at the very least.

My copy of Harlan Ellison's Dangerous Visions Anthology? 10 bucks, hardcover with a jacket. 33 stories and they're at least bound to be genuinely entertaining and well put together. It's not insulting me by shoveling drivel into my face like Marvel does. 800 pages or some shit. All short fiction.

A copy of modern comics? 3-5 bucks an issue for 20 pages of slop. It's a guilty pleasure at best and often gets insultingly bad. I don't read much now. I'll binge Blood Hunt when it's done but that's it.

Modern comics collections of recent events? It's boring and I just don't like how shit is forced to run along. Like the changes to Deadpool because of Secret Empires and the abruptness of it all. Or the fact that the immortal hulk had a transgender black woman go "nuh uh".
 
God of Nothing said:
modern comics make me want to die in how stupid and bad they are
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I couldn't agree more. Luckily, there are more amazing comic books from before the Tard World Era than I could ever read in a lifetime.

Hell, just about everything I've ever read from Tim Truman is excellent and his best work is 30+ years old. Grimjack and Scout are both lots of fun. Plus, he wrote the first story arc on the early-90s Valiant run of Turok (AKA the BEST run of Turok.)
 
Alexander Thaut said:
oh that sounds dire.

the Hal or John one?
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Hal. It actually had well exicuted drama and re-established Carol Ferris in Hal's life

ChampFantana said:
I couldn't agree more. Luckily, there are more amazing comic books from before the Tard World Era than I could ever read in a lifetime.

Hell, just about everything I've ever read from Tim Truman is excellent and his best work is 30+ years old. Grimjack and Scout are both lots of fun. Plus, he wrote the first story arc on the early-90s Valiant run of Turok (AKA the BEST run of Turok.)
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Tim Truman's Conan run at Dark Horse was damn good. I also enjoyed his Star Wars run at Dark Horse but I haven't read that since I was a wee lad
 
Arthur Morgan said:
Funnily enough, he had the opposite problem when doing Valley Forge, Valley Forge with Goran Parlov.
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Ennis' work on Punisher MAX is some of my favorite comics work of all time, but Goran Parlov was easily the worst artist for those stories. Marvel should have stuck with Leandro Fernandez for the whole thing. His work in Up Is Down, Black Is White and The Slavers was excellent.

Also, the less said about Howard Chaykin's shitty art in Long Cold Dark, the better as far as I'm concerned.
 
Here's a list of of some one-shots/GN I kinda remember liking that I don't think I've seen anybody talk about anywhere
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Pieces for Mom - Steve Niles zombie comic, 2 young boys during a zombie apocalypse go out to find Pieces for there Mom

Crecy - Warren Ellis comic depicting the Battle of Crecy (1346)

Kill All Parents-per amazon A brilliant but demented scientist has devised a secret program to save mankind by ensuring that every child grows up to become a superhero... by killing their parents, But what happens when these heroes discover the horrifying conspiracy surrounding their origins?

Friday the 13th - Abuser and the Abused - Jason vs a final girl with issues

Friday the 13th - How I Spent My Summer Vacation- Jason kills an entire camp of kids except for one deformed kid who reminds him of himself, hilarity ensues

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Tales Designed to Thrizzle- Self Explanatory

Bullseye - Greatest Hits - The greatist hits Bullseye has pulled off

XXXZombies - Rick Remender does Boogie Nights meets Night of the Living Dead

Books of Doom - A solid Limited series about Dr. Doom by Ed Brubaker

If anybody has little known/talked about short runners that they liked, let me know
 
ChampFantana said:
Ennis' work on Punisher MAX is some of my favorite comics work of all time, but Goran Parlov was easily the worst artist for those stories. Marvel should have stuck with Leandro Fernandez for the whole thing. His work in Up Is Down, Black Is White and The Slavers was excellent.

Also, the less said about Howard Chaykin's shitty art in Long Cold Dark, the better as far as I'm concerned.
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Parlov worked for Barracuda, the first arc at least, because it was the Punisher going up against white collar criminals who had teamed up with an over the top, laughing giant motherfucker. Same with the mini-series, it's a fun side story about Barracuda trying to make some money by fucking over everyone he comes across, failing, and ending up worse than he started off. You didn't need the grittiness that Fernandez, Braithwaite, Medina or even Larosa brought in.

Long Cold Dark, on the other hand, being about the Punisher's daughter being kidnapped while Parlov's artwork dropped further. The character still acts like a laughing loon, but the stakes are higher, more personal, and Barracuda drops the clown act frequently as he realizes just how badly he's underestimated the Punisher as his attempts to unsettle Castle just get him hurt, and how Yorkie's final words start to make him doubt himself. But I think Parlov would have done fine if he had just stuck with the level he'd put into the first arc, but he decided to start experimenting with a simpler, darker style involving more black shading and it just looked shit, not helped by Lee Loughridge taking over for colors.

As for Chaykin, I know he was respected in the 80s but I've only seen his post 00s work and it all looks shit to me. Too stiff, same faces all around, and I swear he traces poses. Was he ever good?
 
Arthur Morgan said:
As for Chaykin, I know he was respected in the 80s but I've only seen his post 00s work and it all looks shit to me. Too stiff, same faces all around, and I swear he traces poses. Was he ever good?
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I read American Flagg years ago and wasn't impressed with it. The only other thing I've read from Chaykin was a Buck Rogers arc from a decade or so ago where Howie spent the entire story simping for communism.

I don't think he was ever any good.
 
Check this out:

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How does boom sell their artist involved in this:

>About Brandt&Stein:

Brandt&Stein are a gestalt comics-making entity from the UK. Their biggest claim to fame is the multi-award nominated Crowded from Image, but they also brought Connor Hawke out of the closet as asexual at DC, co-created Escapade, the first trans mutant, at Marvel; they’ve drawn for most major publishers, contributed art to Fantasy Flight card games, and somehow still find the time to walk the dog.


>but they also brought Connor Hawke out of the closet as asexual at DC
>co-created Escapade, the first trans mutant, at Marvel

Jesus, I know boom is the bottom of the barrel, but come on
 
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