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Scritti Politti said:
I'm not a fan of Ron Marz, but this single page justifies his career.
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Marz's Star Wars output was good for me, not only being a kid growing up during the prequel era, but the way the story moves between characters, such as the Darth Maul miniseries and the Jango Fett/Zam Wessell miniseries.

I couldn't believe this is the same guy having done this horrible GL girlfriend-fridging.

The one story that stays with me (and genuinely has an impact until now) is the Star Wars Tales "Resurrection" single where Darth Vader and Darth Maul duel. It's a great story that leaves Maul's resurrection ambiguous, and it also fills in a gap even before Episode III was finalized with those words Darth Vader says to Maul when asks about what could he hate enough to destroy him (Maul)

"Myself."

Marz's Metal Men for Tangent Comics was pretty solid and fun too.
Then again, all of Tangent Comics was fun, and I regret getting rid of those trades I had of the full series
 
In anticipation of Born Again, I decided to read some Daredevil, so I picked up the Last Rites epic collection.

Nocenti is a good comic writer with absolutely braindead political opinions. Her stories are breezy and well-told, but my goodness is she preachy. There's a scene where Matt is dating a black girl and the black girl is like, "gasp, he doesn't know I'm black!" Its like, lady, you squat in the ruins of civilization and steal for a living. He may be blind, but he knows you're black.

Chichester takes over after Nocenti. I think Chichester is illiterate. I'm serious. His dialogue is so poorly written I had to read certain word balloons multiple times to understand them. He also breaks the rule of word balloons, having the right-most balloon precede the left-most balloon. I'm going to give him a pass, however, because he gave me the largest belly laugh I've had in a long time:

Matt finally decides to bring down the Kingpin, so he decides to drive a wedge between Kingpin and Typhoid Mary (who Kingpin is sleeping with). How does he do this? He seduces her, fucks her, and then has her involuntarily committed to a mental hospital. Matt Murdock, you magnificent bastard!
 
Stab You in the Back said:
In anticipation of Born Again, I decided to read some Daredevil, so I picked up the Last Rites epic collection.

Nocenti is a good comic writer with absolutely braindead political opinions. Her stories are breezy and well-told, but my goodness is she preachy. There's a scene where Matt is dating a black girl and the black girl is like, "gasp, he doesn't know I'm black!" Its like, lady, you squat in the ruins of civilization and steal for a living. He may be blind, but he knows you're black.

Chichester takes over after Nocenti. I think Chichester is illiterate. I'm serious. His dialogue is so poorly written I had to read certain word balloons multiple times to understand them. He also breaks the rule of word balloons, having the right-most balloon precede the left-most balloon. I'm going to give him a pass, however, because he gave me the largest belly laugh I've had in a long time:

Matt finally decides to bring down the Kingpin, so he decides to drive a wedge between Kingpin and Typhoid Mary (who Kingpin is sleeping with). How does he do this? He seduces her, fucks her, and then has her involuntarily committed to a mental hospital. Matt Murdock, you magnificent bastard!
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I recommend the Zdarsky run. I enjoyed it.
 
Jean Grey is finally getting a third omnibus that covers her death and resurrection in the 2000's!

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I remember that in the Utopia arc, Emma Frost had a vision of Jean who hinted she'd return. I still think its weird how she also essentially was like "Oh its fine Scott go fuck Emma with my blessing." I have not kept up with what she's been doing at the moment aside from leading the Red team. Is she back with him and/or is she friends with Emma?
 
Newcomer 42 said:
Ah, the Woman in the Fridge, or killing a girl to make a guy sad. So pollemic it's unthinkable nowadays (except when it happens).
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Such a fucking retarded pollemic, too. Acting like male characters hadn't been killed for motivation for both male and female characters since forever, characters like Spidey's Uncle, Batman's dad (yes, the mom too of course), Cap's sidekick, Katana's husband, Donna Troy's husband and children, and many others.
I get that GL's fridgegirl was notable in its over the top cruelty, but the whole controversy was stupid and it's still stupid when brought up today.

Also wanted to point out, mainly because it's relevant to nothing else ever, that I laughed my ass off when Thunderf00t was making his videos argumenting against this controversy... but thinking it was literally about women in refrigerators, like, putting them in cryosleep or hiding them in fridges for some reason in the plot.
Scarlett Johansson said:
I remember that in the Utopia arc, Emma Frost had a vision of Jean who hinted she'd return. I still think its weird how she also essentially was like "Oh its fine Scott go fuck Emma with my blessing." I have not kept up with what she's been doing at the moment aside from leading the Red team. Is she back with him and/or is she friends with Emma?
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You mean the stuff from around 2017? If I recall correctly she returned to life in some town but it was sort of a Wandavision thing, where the town was kept inside a bubble and she believed she was just some diner waitress. The X-Men eventually went to the diner and she ended up remembering herself, led that red team for a while, sort of lobotomized Cassandra Nova into not hating mutants anymore (but this did not make her a good person, as she'd later just fuck with humans instead).

Then the Krakoa era happened, Jean was Cyke's wife again, Emma was on her own. There were rumors and implications of open relationships (factual in that Jean is seen fucking Wolverine at one point, more implied in that Cyke and Emma may have been fucking on the side, based on a few lines of dialogue), but beyond that, Jean and Emma were mostly in a amicable working relationship. Both were in the governing council of Krakoa, and later Jean would give up her seat in favor of co-leading the X-Men with Cyke. By the end of Krakoa, Jean and Cyke were kind of split due to a difference of opinion regarding genociding the Brood, and Emma married Tony Stark as part of a scheme, but they ended up catching feelings. After Krakoa ended, Jean and Cyke were back together, but she's now more godlike and is fucking around in space, dealing with cosmic shit; while Emma and Tony divorced, their scheme concluded regardless of feels, and I don't know what the fuck they're doing now because I gave up hard on BIG 2 comics at that point.
 
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Stab You in the Back said:
In anticipation of Born Again, I decided to read some Daredevil, so I picked up the Last Rites epic collection.

Nocenti is a good comic writer with absolutely braindead political opinions. Her stories are breezy and well-told, but my goodness is she preachy. There's a scene where Matt is dating a black girl and the black girl is like, "gasp, he doesn't know I'm black!" Its like, lady, you squat in the ruins of civilization and steal for a living. He may be blind, but he knows you're black.

Chichester takes over after Nocenti. I think Chichester is illiterate. I'm serious. His dialogue is so poorly written I had to read certain word balloons multiple times to understand them. He also breaks the rule of word balloons, having the right-most balloon precede the left-most balloon. I'm going to give him a pass, however, because he gave me the largest belly laugh I've had in a long time:

Matt finally decides to bring down the Kingpin, so he decides to drive a wedge between Kingpin and Typhoid Mary (who Kingpin is sleeping with). How does he do this? He seduces her, fucks her, and then has her involuntarily committed to a mental hospital. Matt Murdock, you magnificent bastard!
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Nocenti always seemed to have good ideas but had a difficult time turning them into good plots, and especially good plots that go anywhere. I sperged about her stuff here. Chichester tries too hard to be like Frank Miller, like a kid trying to imitate his dad, and his scripts are definitely way too wordy, complete with gigantic narrating boxes. I talked a bit more about his stuff (and most of v1 of Daredevil) here. I also did very write ups on Bendis and Brubaker's runs throughout the thread -- both runs are pretty good, especially Brubaker's; Bendis definitely had his ups and downs on the book.
 
Having read a lot of both, I'm not so sure. I agree that Ghost Rider should ultimately win, if only because when you have two characters that seem to have capabilities on par with one another, the creation/publishing date should be the determining factor to me. But Spawn does have a retarded history of doing things he should never have been able to, so turning the penance stare back on the demon powering Danny or Johnny isn't that out of nowhere.

It's all fucking stupid, anyway.

If they ever did Hyperion versus Superman, I would want them to spin it so Superman wins regardless of the crazy shit Hyperion has managed. He existed first, inspired all the flying bricks that came after, and otherwise they're shown as similar enough in most of their iterations.
 
CyrusHowler said:
Death Battle saying Spawn could beat Ghost Rider is laughably moronic.
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Not as moronic as Ben 10 vs Green Lantern. I don't think anyone in the world thought about Hal having a chance besides those retards. Ben just asspulls way harder.
Power level wanking is already stupid but those guys are on another level.
They are good at animating but that is about it.
 
Nick Obre said:
There were rumors and implications of open relationships (factual in that Jean is seen fucking Wolverine at one point, more implied in that Cyke and Emma may have been fucking on the side, based on a few lines of dialogue)
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Thankfully the Jean/Scott/Logan romance stuff all got retconned during the From the Ashes reboot and can be safety forgotten.
https://screenrant.com/x-men-editor-denies-wolverine-cyclops-jean-ployamory/
It was always a weird idea and I get the feeling a lot of people didn't like it.
 
Anon88 said:
Thankfully the Jean/Scott/Logan romance stuff all got retconned during the From the Ashes reboot and can be safety forgotten.
https://screenrant.com/x-men-editor-denies-wolverine-cyclops-jean-ployamory/
It was always a weird idea and I get the feeling a lot of people didn't like it.
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Most people didn't like it, and they can deny it, but we did see Jean fuck Wolverine in a hot tub.

It was implied through things like Logan living in the Summers house and Jean's room having doors to both Cyke's and Logan's rooms, and some spicy dialogue here and there; those you can say are just unintentional implications or fans reading too much into it, but, I repeat, we did see Jean fuck Wolverine in a hot tub.
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Burt Ryan said:
You say that, then you find out about Miles VA from those movies that threw a hissy fit over Gwen's VA going steady / getting engaged with another dude, and he wrote a bunch of Tweets on how he was the right one for her and stuff along those lines.
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She’s fucking Josh Allen of the Buffalo Bills. He’s the whitest quarter back in the NFL and is from Wyoming. He dropped n bombs on Twitter and lost being 1st round pick in the draft because of this.
 
Nick Obre said:
Such a fucking retarded pollemic, too. Acting like male characters hadn't been killed for motivation for both male and female characters since forever, characters like Spidey's Uncle, Batman's dad (yes, the mom too of course), Cap's sidekick, Katana's husband, Donna Troy's husband and children, and many others.
I get that GL's fridgegirl was notable in its over the top cruelty, but the whole controversy was stupid and it's still stupid when brought up today.
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It's because no-one cares when a guy is affected (nowadays, even if it's a boy).
 
Newcomer 42 said:
It's because no-one cares when a guy is affected (nowadays, even if it's a boy).
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Can ANYONE give the name of Kyle Rayner's girlfriend that got fridged. Like, if you're going to point fingers at women being killed to give character development to the protagonist, at least use someone like Gwen Stacy.

Comics readers can easily rattle off a list of prominent deaths that affect character development. Uncle Ben, Bucky, Jason Todd, Thomas & Martha Wayne, Kathy Kane, Aquababy, Ice, etc. There's scores of deceased heroes and villains that become enmeshed in a larger sprawl as tragic deaths. All those dead Teen Titans and JSA Members from the silver-bronze age wind up being kinda remembered.

But, wait, this isn't important, right? We have to take a look at women, right?

I'm actually remembering more dead important females post- Kyle's fridged GF than I do prior to that. Like, I remember the generally notable ones like Gwen Stacy, the original Batwoman (Kathy Kane), Agent 13 (Sharon), Jean Grey, and whatnot. But, it feels like there was quite a flood of notably relevant female deaths after the Fridging. Wondy herself died aroudn that time. So did her pseudo-replacement (Artemis) and Donna Troy. Janet Van Dyne, Jean Grey (again), Angel-Supergirl, and etc. Hell, fuck the Fridge Girl. Aquababy and Jason Todd and Donna Troy's baby are all far more tragic and they don't get brought up in the same type of faux-outrage that the fucking fridge girl does. Noone gave a fuck about her. Noone that brings her up even remembers her name. She barely got an appearance in the Blackest Night event.

But, again, who cares. Nobody cried over how utterly brutal the deaths of Steel and Vibe were. Ya know, the Justice League Detroit dudes. I mean, christ, that team was cursed and horrendously fucked. Vixen spent a decade wandering all over the place and even popped up in the Suicide Squad due to the JLD experience being so fucked. Gypsy was subject to a conga line of bullshit because of the JLD and Despero. But noone really wants to remember the JLD stuff. It had potential, but was kinda mostly poorly executed outside of the Despero parts. Vibe could have been grown into a proper character and not an ethnic stereotype. DC had done it with Black Lightning.

Speaking of brutal deaths, anyone remember all the Earth-2 shenanigans right before the Original Crisis? The Golden Age Batman and Catwoman had pretty fucked up deaths. I also like to look up these issues because they had the original Huntress have a recurring supporting superhero that was some black lawyer guy in a bat-themed costume. He's never been brought up since then. He wasn't related to Lucius Fox at all.
 
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