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Bay Kemal said:
They have been pushing it for a long while now. She is pretty much the new Whor.
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Honestly, I can see it make far more sense than Fosthor. Elektra's been a consistent presence and it seems she's always been someone who could maybe be closer to the side of the Angels.

Jane Foster, while a relevant cast member, was kinda neglected in the Thor comics for decades. Sure, she came back in the 00s and all that, but I found her use to be a bit hackneyed. But, I'll give it credit for not being as mindfuckingly stupid as it could have been. It just seems to have been a way to get a female version and tell a bit of a contrived story. However, I'm only mad because it lasted too long. The story went on for too long and it was obvious that Jane Foster was this female Thor. Hell, I get it. They had to time the story to have Thor be "Unworthy" while in the leadup to Secret Wars as a part of all that thematic shit they were doing to put the major icons in a downward spiral. Steve went old, Tony went evil, Bruce became a sociopathic merged hulk, Spidey was Doc Ock, Wolverine died, the F4 were in trouble, the X-Men were kinda screwed up too.

Jane Foster's kind of a bland nothingburger with a nice bland tale. I'm critical of the execution of this idea and how Marvel & Redditor-types kept pushing it. We all knew it was going to be hokey and Aaron's an average writer at best.
Bay Kemal said:
Matt himself got a new comic just because of the new show. After sleeping with that many women him becoming a priest is hilarious though. The writer is muslim on top of all that.
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I really wanna see Matt and Kurt Wagner have a good old catholic guilt talk. Kurt being the optimistic fucker that he is, despite suffering just as badly or worse, would be a fun contrast.
 
Alexander Thaut said:
Jane Foster's kind of a bland nothingburger with a nice bland tale. I'm critical of the execution of this idea and how Marvel & Redditor-types kept pushing it. We all knew it was going to be hokey and Aaron's an average writer at best.
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Her Thor design was solid. What do you think of the decision to make her the new Valkyrie?

Daredevil as a title needs to always have elements of black comedy to it. The Frank Miller run is one of the funniest runs ever put to paper. Also everytime I think of the Bendis End of Days mini, I crack up at Matt having illegitimate children with most of his love interests.
 
Clyde Cash's Left Teste said:
Her Thor design was solid. What do you think of the decision to make her the new Valkyrie?

Daredevil as a title needs to always have elements of black comedy to it. The Frank Miller run is one of the funniest runs ever put to paper. Also everytime I think of the Bendis End of Days mini, I crack up at Matt having illegitimate children with most of his love interests.
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Illegitimate children are the hallmark of Marvel’s best heroes, the Banner and Logan clans in particular are full of bastard half-breeds.

The only time Amadeus Cho was very funny was when he said to Bruce, “For a skinny white dude with anger issues, you sure do get around a lot.”
 
Clyde Cash's Left Teste said:
Her Thor design was solid. What do you think of the decision to make her the new Valkyrie?

Daredevil as a title needs to always have elements of black comedy to it. The Frank Miller run is one of the funniest runs ever put to paper. Also everytime I think of the Bendis End of Days mini, I crack up at Matt having illegitimate children with most of his love interests.
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I can't say I'm surprised that they made her the new Valkyrie, it's a decent choice in theory. They can always bring back the original Brunnhilde if need be.

What does intrigue me is how seamlessly they shoved her into the hero community. But, I guess if they can have Pepper Potts become Rescue, or any number of formerly supporting cast members become heroes, then it's not that big of a deal.

Anyone remember a gay pajeet guy becoming the new Giant-Man?
 
Tor Lugosi said:
I've been looking forward to Charles Soules' Daredevil run because people couldn't shut the fuck up about how great it was and how similar in tone and style is was to Frank Miller's work... but a couple issues into it and so far it fucking sucks.
- First up you've got Blindspot, Daredevil's new sidekick, who can't shut the fuck up about how he's an illegal Chinese immigrant and how bad his people have it and how they're 'invisible' (also, he has a tech suit that turns invisible, do you get it -- and, yeah, the guy's apparently smart enough to build an invisible suit but not smart enough to figure out the naturalization process)
- Back to Bendis style decompression wherein every issue would probably be only like five pages in a '60s or '70s, even '80s, comic issue.
- Shitty, lazy writing in general. Matt had a witness that was being held in a holding cell in the courthouse. Bad guys break in and get to the witness. None of Matt's hyper senses pick up on this despite it happening like a floor below him (nor does he seem to pick up on the aftermath when he's right outside the room where it happened) and then, of course, Matt, a blind guy (nobody remembers that Matt is Daredevil anymore), is blamed for it.
- Back to Foggy being a whiny, angry retard over Matt being Daredevil (he's the only know who knows about his secret identity now), which feels especially frustrating after Waid's run was largely a celebration of their friendship.
- Immediately jumps into a story about The Hand, the most basic bitch of Daredevil stories at this point. What's next, Kingpin's back and he wants to ruin Matt's life for the 329548372489234th time?
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Oh christ is he gonna get a kewl azn sidekick named Blindspot next season on the TV show? Watch he'll be played by Caleb Yen. Or Mark Daugherty. Perry Shen would be a good choice because he can actually act. Anyone but Bowen Yang's overused ass. Or.....gender swap Awkwafina. The black gurlz will be calling for her assassination o lawd chille.

Rereading X-Treme X-Men and Vargas has a statue of Psylocke. Teenage Scarlett thought it was her corpse....inside a statue. But apparently not? Its not clear. Glad she doesn't have that stupid as fuck Crimson Dawn tattoo though because that was a mess. I bring up the human corpse statue because in the current Psylocke solo, she's up against a man called the Taxidermist. Its stupid in theory but the man is absolutely terrifying. It's still one of my favorite X teams. Rogue scared the shit out of me when I was younger with the way she gets her revenge on Vargas for Betsy's death.

After that its the Mystique solo and the Rogue solo. (Fucking Shortpack...is his design supposed to be based on someone irl?)

(Unpopular opinion time. I like Elektra's Daredevil costume. It makes sense especially when its cold and you gotta make your way parkour style across the NYC rooftops.)
 
Scarlett Johansson said:
Apparently there's a new gay Juggernaut and a new gay Captain America. I have absolutely no idea what the fuck is happening at Marvel.
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knew about the gay captain america being some homeless gay hobo kid.

there's a gay juggernaut?

oh it's someone called Kid Juggernaut, the descendent of a one-off WW2 era Korean Juggernaut (which, eh, whatever)


ah there's an Avengers Academy revival with. . . characters noone wants to read. Kid Juggernaut, Gay Kid Captain America, Lunella (Moon Girl), Blade's Daughter, Escapade (the new tranny mutant), and. . . Normie Osborn.
 
Alexander Thaut said:
knew about the gay captain america being some homeless gay hobo kid.

there's a gay juggernaut?

oh it's someone called Kid Juggernaut, the descendent of a one-off WW2 era Korean Juggernaut (which, eh, whatever)


ah there's an Avengers Academy revival with. . . characters noone wants to read. Kid Juggernaut, Gay Kid Captain America, Lunella (Moon Girl), Blade's Daughter, Escapade (the new tranny mutant), and. . . Normie Osborn.
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I feel like Moon Girl would probally be the easiest one to sell
 
Clyde Cash's Left Teste said:
I feel like Moon Girl would probally be the easiest one to sell
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if they play up her kid aspect and don't make her an annoyance, yes.

But, honestly, I think this is going to immediately fall under the same plot arc of the original Avengers Academy. The kids are mostly high-risk at becoming supervillains or other forms of anti-social.
 
Alexander Thaut said:
if they play up her kid aspect and don't make her an annoyance, yes.
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Hell, I'll piggy-back quote your post to say it.

Moon Girl is absolutely a wonderfully fun idea and I actually think who she is, a typical little black girl from the 'burbs actually works. The puff ball hairstyle is perfect visually with the big goggles to obviously showcase "little girl", and I don't even mind them stating she may very well be smarter than Reed Richards, since the gist of her series SHOULD just be a normal little girl who happens to be a super-genius... who because she's still just a normal little girl just has adventures focusing on zany things or creating cool stuff that's appealing to kids than wholesale superheroic stuff.

This is exactly the kind of fun idea that threads the needle in several ways: perfect as a comic book series in general, but as a Marvel book an easy way to shove in various guest star heroes who happen to run across her running across New York. And when inevitably they fight villains together you keep it fun, lighthearted, and the implication the bad guy is completely underestimating the wacky inventions the kid creates to help the hero stop 'em. A great implication of how wild and fun the Marvel U can be even beyond the spate of heroes we typically look at.

It's why seeing it debut in the woke era saddens me. Like Fal-Cap, who should absolutely be the one guy who can carry the Cap mantle without anyone complaining and actually look at the consequences both meta and in-universe, Moon Girl's suffering from the usual culture wars bullshit poisoning such a slam-dunk scenario and I'll call out both sides on it. The idea is so strong it should absolutely be a case of "happens to be a black girl" with the focus on her genius and adventures.

Trust me when I say I definitely want to eat crow and be corrected, in case her various appearances are indeed like I hope they should be.
 
Mayor Cody Travers said:
Hell, I'll piggy-back quote your post to say it.

Moon Girl is absolutely a wonderfully fun idea and I actually think who she is, a typical little black girl from the 'burbs actually works. The puff ball hairstyle is perfect visually with the big goggles to obviously showcase "little girl", and I don't even mind them stating she may very well be smarter than Reed Richards, since the gist of her series SHOULD just be a normal little girl who happens to be a super-genius... who because she's still just a normal little girl just has adventures focusing on zany things or creating cool stuff that's appealing to kids than wholesale superheroic stuff.

This is exactly the kind of fun idea that threads the needle in several ways: perfect as a comic book series in general, but as a Marvel book an easy way to shove in various guest star heroes who happen to run across her running across New York. And when inevitably they fight villains together you keep it fun, lighthearted, and the implication the bad guy is completely underestimating the wacky inventions the kid creates to help the hero stop 'em. A great implication of how wild and fun the Marvel U can be even beyond the spate of heroes we typically look at.

It's why seeing it debut in the woke era saddens me. Like Fal-Cap, who should absolutely be the one guy who can carry the Cap mantle without anyone complaining and actually look at the consequences both meta and in-universe, Moon Girl's suffering from the usual culture wars bullshit poisoning such a slam-dunk scenario and I'll call out both sides on it. The idea is so strong it should absolutely be a case of "happens to be a black girl" with the focus on her genius and adventures.

Trust me when I say I definitely want to eat crow and be corrected, in case her various appearances are indeed like I hope they should be.
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I think one thing that should be explored in her series, if they want to do any sort of more mature angle, is the pattern of all the heroic geniuses that are always falling. Tony's fallen before, Hank Pym is notorious for this, Hank McCoy had a fucking massive turn and breakdown in Krakoa, the Illuminati as a concept is inherently veering into hubris. Hell, Mr. Fantastic has multiple alternate versions famous for fully succumbing. The main marvel edition is only saved by his family. Amadeus Cho? The previous supergenius kid? He's gotta be fucked up mentally. Bruce Banner? Also lumped into this bunch. The only one who doesn't totally fall under "fallen to their own hubris" might be T'CHalla, but we've seen enough with him to see the dark side he may have.

This could be an interesting thing for Lunella to be hyper-aware of. Maybe throw in Ironheart as a contrast to someone walking the line into potentially falling. Throw in Valeria Richards and maybe a few other genius kids like Amadeus Cho and Hope Pym.

Hell, the genius kid from Runaways would be a decent contrast too, Chase Stein?



Anyways, I don't think they'd do this because it'd require competent writing.
 
Alexander Thaut said:
This could be an interesting thing for Lunella to be hyper-aware of. Maybe throw in Ironheart as a contrast to someone walking the line into potentially falling. Throw in Valeria Richards and maybe a few other genius kids like Amadeus Cho and Hope Pym.
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I feel like Valeria would be good contract with them being around the same age. I think Moongirl works better then most of the ANAD diversity swaps because its more a revamp of an obscure comic (I don't think anybody really gave a shit about Moonboy) with something kids LOVE dinosaurs.

I have mixed feelings about Sam Wilson as Cap but I think one really good story hook would be to have him stuck in 2099. You get the man out of time element and it allows him to build a supporting cast that is entrely his own
 
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Clyde Cash's Left Teste said:
I feel like Valeria would be good contract with them being around the same age. I think Moongirl works better then most of the ANAD diversity swaps because its more a revamp of an obscure comic (I don't think anybody really gave a shit about Moonboy) with something kids LOVE dinosaurs.

I have mixed feelings about Sam Wilson as Cap but I think one really good story hook would be to have him stuck in 2099. You get the man out of time element and it allows him to build a supporting cast that is entrely his own
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oh please you know they'd never do this because it'd require good creativity
 
BetterFuckChuck said:
amazing marvel really introduced three "smartest character in the universe is actually a BLACK GIRL, chuds!" characters in the same year. Amanda Gorman style politics
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I can suspend my disbelief pretty far, but certainly not THAT far.

I've seen plenty of negro females, and their IQs top out somewhere in the 80s AT BEST.
 
Man I must read the final Dune book adaptation, I loved the first one, didn't care much for the second and the final one is left.
 
Prehistoric Jazz said:
Loved how Bane "adopted" Scandal Savage, that version of him was quite interesting
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I was too frazzled to do anything serious yesterday (despite username) so decided to read this based on your comment. Some weird sexual and political themes in that series. Standout being how at the end, Scandal Savage has her original girlfriend return from the dead and resolves this by taking resurrected girlfriend with her to hospital bed of current girlfriend (who has never met original girlfriend) and announcing she'll marry both of them.

Everybody then applauds. Like, in what Universe does that make sense for her partner or is romantic?

And the Bane-Scandal dynamic has some very weird subtexts. As does the flirting between the sixteen year old goth girl memeber and the castrated Ragdoll. Both of these relationships seem to have some sort of fantasy about being able to have a romance that is safely non-sexual. I am not sure the writer had healthy attitudes towards sex and relationships.
 
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