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Prehistoric Jazz said:
I liked Big Game more than I expected

Millar can write well, he just really likes to be a bit more cynical than I usually enjoy. Starlight was fun, Huck was fun, Chrononauts was fun, Ambassadors had some fun moments and art, Wanted is still one of the best looking books I've ever read and I do wish the movie'd been more accurate. The Order... kinda annoys me, it constantly does that "OH YEAH BUT ALSO THE CHARACTERS I PUT IN PERIL A MOMENT AGO ALREADY CAST A SPELL TO COMPLETELY NEGATE THE LAST ISSUES' CLIFFHANGER HAHA" thing, but I do kinda enjoy parts of it. The supergenius and his supergenius brother irritate me, but I only read those to flesh out this world he's built.

Didn't bother with the luchador vampires book, any idea if it's any good?
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I only got in post-Big Game because of the reveal it’s a damaged DC Universe and it’s all a throne for Millar Superman, while being a pretty good take on the Crime Syndicate. Genuinely had no interest in Millar’s indie work until I saw Nemesis vs Epstein on /co/, Wanted being about the millennial bastards of classic supervillains is hilarious, they’d absolutely become the most spoiled, insufferable shits if the Legion of Doom won and killed off all the heroes.

Love Millar stuff, Ultimates 1&2, Authority going lefty/pol/, Old Man Logan, Red Son, all of Nemesis, I think he might be the one writer I pretty consistently enjoy the work of. I like my loud edgelord kino so his stuff is up my alley, I find his lefty-lean more tolerable than most because he made Ultimate Cap. That Steve Rogers was rough around the edges (I love that he’s a proper WW2 guy) and was the blatant conservative to the libertarian Iron Man and liberal Thor but he was treated very respectfully. Cap crying at a barbecue is still one of the few comic moments that almost got me emotional.

Netflix owning the Millar stuff is terrifying though, I hope he keeps the dykes who ruin everything away from my boy. Nemesis is everything I like about Bullseye but free from Marvel.
 
I never fully got some people's distain for modern Millar. Like people still think he is the edgelord of the early 00's but he has been low key just putting to good to great stuff in the last 15 years
 
Humble Architect said:
I was at a bookstore today and bought a physical copy of Nemesis: Reloaded, simply because I was shocked to find it at a retail normal bookstore.

I like Millar stuff, it’s the same reason “Smokin Aces” usually comes on if I get home drunk but there’s still night left and I got a buzz. Dude is the Michael Bay of comics, knows his base, delivers what you want and it makes midwits upset.
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Love Nemesis, best Bullseye solo minis ever. The “Wanted” reveal is pretty good too. I kinda dig that the Millarverse is low-key just Earth 3.

Until his planned public domain Superman mini he’s totally not already penned and had drawn.
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Before I google or get the info on my own, is that art by Jorge Jimenez? I had no idea he did Nemesis with Millar, I remember the series when it first debuted with McNiven

Also, I am reading Doctor Voodoo, Avenger of the Supernatural by Remender intermittently. I had no idea it was this compelling. Also, Mystery Men by David Liss was a surprise for me, it had zero hype and it was actually incredible. A one-and-done tale that was so pulpy it actually hurts. (in the best way)
 
Liquid Kent said:
Before I google or get the info on my own, is that art by Jorge Jimenez? I had no idea he did Nemesis with Millar, I remember the series when it first debuted with McNiven
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Yeah, Jimenez is the artist for “Reloaded” it’s a career-high imo.
Clyde Cash's Left Teste said:
I never fully got some people's distain for modern Millar. Like people still think he is the edgelord of the early 00's but he has been low key just putting to good to great stuff in the last 15 years
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Well I think Wanted critiquing people’s love for antiheroes and “bland grit” was hypocritical in the funniest way. Considering it was his pen that saw the Authority become world-class bastards, the Ultimates being a melting pot of personality disorders and some outright supervillains, Iron Man becoming a tyrant, Reed the incel in Ultimate FF and so on.

I like the edge, I grew up in the late 90s/2000s so my local library was full of that stuff. Early IDW Transformers, Ultimates, they had it. Hell, I got my first comic volume (manga-sized) from a school book fair, the second volume of Ultimate Spider-Man, Chad Otto, goth Gwen, Kraven the Faker, all not fit for a child to read but it set a bar. Plus all that stuff saw reprints due to it being designed to be reprinted forever and being on the screens at the time.
 
I like edge. I like heart. I really like it when a book has a balance of both. As I've gotten older I think I like Millar less, and I find his idea for Wonder Woman abhorrent. But he does write things I enjoy from time to time. No writer gets it right 100% of the time. Some get it right more often than not, tho.
 
Prehistoric Jazz said:
I like edge. I like heart. I really like it when a book has a balance of both. As I've gotten older I think I like Millar less, and I find his idea for Wonder Woman abhorrent. But he does write things I enjoy from time to time. No writer gets it right 100% of the time. Some get it right more often than not, tho.
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I don't think his pitch was ever meant to be for an actual book. More like a dark joke
 
Prehistoric Jazz said:
I like edge. I like heart. I really like it when a book has a balance of both. As I've gotten older I think I like Millar less, and I find his idea for Wonder Woman abhorrent. But he does write things I enjoy from time to time. No writer gets it right 100% of the time. Some get it right more often than not, tho.
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He wanted her to get glazed like a danish right? That’s funny, I mentioned it in the DC thread but had that happened, the Trinity’s three “myth” stories would’ve been the following.

Superman takes on an enemy only he could fight and dies to kill it, then rises from the dead and proves there’s only one Superman. Taking back the mantle and alongside his two new supporting characters, stopping a madman.

Batman, the immovable mover is finally beaten and has to piece himself together, both physically and mentally to rise and take back the throne from the edgelord.

Wonder Woman? Twenty-page sodomy

Hilarious, should’ve happened cause it would’ve finished off the shitty character and the lie that she’s on the level of Batman and Superman could be put in the same bed.
Clyde Cash's Left Teste said:
I don't think his pitch was ever meant to be for an actual book. More like a dark joke
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I think it was a “nuts on the table” rep thing to establish what he’s gonna do if you let him cook.
 
Humble Architect said:
He wanted her to get glazed like a danish right? That’s funny, I mentioned it in the DC thread but had that happened, the Trinity’s three “myth” stories would’ve been the following.

Superman takes on an enemy only he could fight and dies to kill it, then rises from the dead and proves there’s only one Superman. Taking back the mantle and alongside his two new supporting characters, stopping a madman.

Batman, the immovable mover is finally beaten and has to piece himself together, both physically and mentally to rise and take back the throne from the edgelord.

Wonder Woman? Twenty-page sodomy

Hilarious, should’ve happened cause it would’ve finished off the shitty character and the lie that she’s on the level of Batman and Superman could be put in the same bed.

I think it was a “nuts on the table” rep thing to establish what he’s gonna do if you let him cook.
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What happened to Wonder Woman?
 
I'm mostly still reading X-Men/random Marvel out of habit at this point (& for free, so little is worth buying, sadly) & to appreciate a few favorite pencillers, but I'm impatiently counting the days until they finally do the funniest thing & make Xavier's first student the newest final-boss villain.
 
Rick The Stick said:
Wtf?
>He pitched this as a joke
Yeah alright :story:
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Yeah, I've always gone back and forth on whether or not he was joking. The more I learn about him back then though, I don't think he was and probably thought it'd be great.

The rape of Wonder Woman wouldn't work the same way Knightfall would because while the fight went for the whole issue, it's a fight. Bruce is trying to win but just doesn't have anything left in him against this stronger opponent. We see him fall, struggle back to his feet, only to be beaten again, until at last everything is gone and Bane ends it all by breaking him. But that's the thing, Bruce is still fighting back the entire time. Even at the end when he's physically done, he's telling Bane to go to hell.

An entire issue of Diana getting raped? Wouldn't have the same impact. Invincible's rape issue worked because it wasn't the whole issue and Mark fought back until they did a page showing it happening without actually showing it. Twenty pages would just get boring and lose its shock value, and then become either annoying or darkly funny for how long it's going on for.
 
The first time I saw the expression "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one" was reading a Sonic comic book in the 90s but I can't find the issue.
 
I’ve been reading the post-Millar Authority stuff

I got omni 1 and 2, plus the Stormwatch compendium leading up to the Authority. I like my edge-core and the team is an oddity in my comic reading where I don’t mind the leftist stuff, because it’s immediately counteracted by the facist-lean they have. I’ve wanted a Crime Syndicate ongoing for years and they’re the closest thing to it.

I know it’s their era that makes me tolerate the leftist stuff, because they still make jokes about it. Whereas today they wouldn’t dare make cracks about Apollo being a heroic ideal……. “Who makes people put their backs to the wall.”
marlimar said:
The first time I saw the expression "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one" was reading a Sonic comic book in the 90s but I can't find the issue.
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I remember first hearing that phrase as a kid and not liking it subconsciously, like even my unformed stalker child brain knew it was commie nonsense. Just like all of Star Trek.
 
Stormwatch Volume 2, introducing Midnighter and Apollo and their illfated team Bendix sent to their deaths.

I liked the Villains in that universe.
 
Among my recent purchases are a couple of books that most probably haven't heard of - one being a TPB collection I picked up off of Ebay of the late 90s series Uncle Slam & Fire Dog - a patriotic superhero suffering from memory loss who disappeared years ago is back, and is guided in his misadventures by his sidekick, a robotic Dalmation, in a mostly light and humorous series from Andel Parks and Phillip Hester - Uncle Slam originally appeared in short stories in artist Mark Manley's short-lived Action Planet Comics anthology series, which ran for an ashcan, three issues and a Halloween special, then two issues of his own series released by Action Planet Comics, of which I saw issue two in the 50-cent box at a comic shop not long ago.
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There are so many even more obscure titles, from gems to not really gems, and strange and interesting unintentional period pieces that can be discovered through the bargain bins of comic shops and if you're lucky you might find copies on sale online; there are innumerable comic books that are so obscure that they're not even pirated, and are genuinely in danger of becoming "lost media". It invariably takes dedicated fans to make sure titles like these are even noticed, let alone archived.
 
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