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finished transmetropoliton, was honestly really enjoyable. preacher probably next.

undecided if i will read sweet tooth. after preacher i will come back and pick something from these suggestions.
 
So there are a lot of recommendations for old books. Are there any for new books? I look at Comixology new releases on a Wednesday and it's the same old thing: no book, mainstream, indy, even manga, has a cover that grabs me enough to make me part with my shekels and give it a whirl. What hidden gems am I overlooking?

I'm willing to try anything, though I'd probably draw the line at 'cishet whitey bad' and My Little Pony.
I really enjoyed the first issue of Ed Piskor's 'Red Room' and it's a self-contained story so far. That's what he said he was going for. It's a gory horror comic about murder on the dark web. The second issue just came out and I'm hoping the premise won't be worn thin or that it has a decent ending in mind.
 
This pondering came to me while I was a work and it's about comic book writer Jeremy Whitley and how his work at times screams "please see me as a good little ally" as well as a possible lesbo fetish.

Princeless (both original and the spin-off)
  • According to TV Tropes (who can vouch for me on this) you can count on two hands at most of the males that aren't portrayed (in both series) as jerks. One man even screams, "not all men!".
  • Raven's (the spin-off) pirate crew are all female and either lesbians, asexual, or have lesbian tendencies. No one is interested in men and Raven even says that it's men's fault when women are acting mean to each other. Oh yeah, there's also a deaf pirate and another in a hijab.
  • The main character in the original (who is black) is called "fair" as in pretty by a prince and she gets all bitchy at him since fair can also mean fair-skinned which she is not. And we're supposed to see her in the right.
Unstoppable Wasp
  • Nadia (the main character) has a multiracial team of teen girl scientists where she and her friends are not interested in boys and two of them even fall in love. I think another might be interested in someone.
  • Because her dad accidently hit his ex-wife (when they were together), Nadia no longer wants to share his last name, anything to do with him, and changes it. Granted whether the hit was an accident is debatable.

My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic Comic
  • Used the situation with dragons as a BLM metaphor.
  • I also hear that his handling of Sombra's past was poorly received by the fans.
I think he's done some other work at Marvel where of course, one of the characters is a lesbian.
 
So there are a lot of recommendations for old books. Are there any for new books? I look at Comixology new releases on a Wednesday and it's the same old thing: no book, mainstream, indy, even manga, has a cover that grabs me enough to make me part with my shekels and give it a whirl. What hidden gems am I overlooking?

I'm willing to try anything, though I'd probably draw the line at 'cishet whitey bad' and My Little Pony.

The Shield #1 by Rob Liefeld?

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I'm only half joking.

Three Jokers

Wrong Earth has some of the stuff your talking about and it'll probably get worse. But it was also okay.

Manga the Vigilante spin-off of My Hero Academia is good. (manga) So's Chainsaw Man (manga) and Soukyuu No Ariadne (Manga).

If you're looking for something darker, Black Lagoon is awesome.
 
Shit I'm reading from DC currently ordered by how much I like it:

Batman/Superman, Batman Reptilian, Nightwing, Batman Detective, Wonder Girl, Green Lantern, Swamp Thing, Robin, Strange Adventures.

Gap between Robin and Strange Adventures is big and I wouldn't recommend Strange Adventures at all, I just want to finish it since only two issues left.
 
Shit I'm reading from DC currently ordered by how much I like it:

Batman/Superman, Batman Reptilian, Nightwing, Batman Detective, Wonder Girl, Green Lantern, Swamp Thing, Robin, Strange Adventures.

Gap between Robin and Strange Adventures is big and I wouldn't recommend Strange Adventures at all, I just want to finish it since only two issues left.
did they finish adam strange's ptsd journey yet?
 
Shit I'm reading from DC currently ordered by how much I like it:

Batman/Superman, Batman Reptilian, Nightwing, Batman Detective, Wonder Girl, Green Lantern, Swamp Thing, Robin, Strange Adventures.

Gap between Robin and Strange Adventures is big and I wouldn't recommend Strange Adventures at all, I just want to finish it since only two issues left.

Anything by Tom King....

Other than Reptilian, Ennis doing Batman?, sounds awful. It's your money though.

Oh god - is Tom King's latest Sadness Porn miniseries still not over yet?

I swear the dude needs to drop acid and take part in a gang bang.

What he needs to do is get drop kicked out of corporate comics and forced to make his way on talent.

i'd be up for an adam strange ptsd arc if it wasn't the sole focus of the damn comic

The last good Adam Strange mini that was actually about him was released in 2003? Give us a reason to like Adam before breaking him.
 
So there are a lot of recommendations for old books. Are there any for new books? I look at Comixology new releases on a Wednesday and it's the same old thing: no book, mainstream, indy, even manga, has a cover that grabs me enough to make me part with my shekels and give it a whirl. What hidden gems am I overlooking?
I've honestly enjoyed a lot of the current X-Men books. The crossover storylines have been irritating but otherwise it's been pretty easy to pick and choose the books I like and keep up with those while ignoring the ones I don't. I'd say read the House of X/Powers of X miniseries that rebooted the franchise to its current status quo and see if you like it. From what followed, I enjoyed Hellions, Fallen Angels, Marauders, and the main Jonathan Hickman X-Men series.

Kieron Gillen's modern fantasy book Once and Future is a consistent banger. Great Dan Mora artwork. Definitely gotta read that from the beginning though. His Eternals book for Marvel, also good.
 
Adam is a war criminal and a traitor, he does not have ptsd. Granted, there are two more issues so maybe King will go "it was ptsd, don't be mad at Adam" or some other bullshit.

That sounds awful.

Hey gang, remember that cool silver age adventure hero? Well now he's a war crime committing traitor! I know, fun!

The years-long persistence of Crossed after that first miniseries is something I'll never understand.
My theory is the writers were all having a competition to see who could be the biggest edgelord.
...Except for Max Bemis, he just wanted to whine about and strawman comic readers.

I've come to understand that increasingly comic creatives have made books that they and their peers wanted to read; fans be screwed. This has been the increasing sentiment to today where aside from a handful of titles, everything is made for other professionals.

That wasn't a problem in the 90s when those books were the exception instead of the rule. Hell, a number of them like Challengers of the Unknown are awesome cult books. But starting with Ellis and Stormwatch, it feels like comics started to not just encourage niche books. They actively pushed them to the exclusion of the truly popular.

It's not just that people like Ed Brubaker and Greg Rucka turned the Bat books into Vertigo comics or Joe Quesada tried something similar with books like Captain America. Its that the sales dipped due to this. Rather than learn the lesson; they'd bring in someone like Jim Lee. He'd boost sales on Batman. Then they'd turn around and try to go back to the fucking well again!

I don't so much mind Crossed as its a symbol of people who are running the show.
 
I don't so much mind Crossed as its a symbol of people who are running the show.
Yeah, that's a fair interpretation. Really, an awful lot of Avatar's output for a while there amounted to stuff by "name" writers that was so half-assed or self-indulgent no other publisher would touch it.

You take the Warren Ellis stuff they put out like Black Summer or No Hero. Yeah, it's insanely violent and disgusting, but the real problem was that a serious editor would say, "You have good ideas here, now come back after a couple three drafts with a script that makes sense." Avatar just said, "Done, ship it," and printed up sixty-seven convention variant covers.
 
Some good picks there. I will say in regards to the Euro stuff, Jodorowsky is WEIRD. To a point where I can't think of a real good familiar analog in American media. People say David Cronenberg movies are weird, or David Lynch movies are weird? Jodorowsky is weirder than that. His brain does not operate like most of the rest of ours. Which is why he's interesting, but go in prepared for that.
Jodorowsky is a one of a kind, possibly even on par with people like Dali. Out of currently living ones, Lynch is probably the one that comes the closest but only when films are concerned. In the comic book realm there is no one else like Jodo, but Moebius and Druillet are similar in some ways. Moore and Morrison are probably closest in the anglosphere, but they come across like a pathetic shadows of Jodorowsky. Moore's ventures to gain relevance outside of comics were all failures, and now he lives in an overpriced Northhampton home larping as a sole worshiper of a serpent God he cribbed from pagan European cults. Morrison tries to cast spells, preach about magic, and branch out to other things, but people only pay attention to his comics. Meanwhile Jodorowsky has a full blown cult, earned recognition in art disciplines ranging from puppetry to literature, and that's on top of being a polygot, training as a mime, and constantly learning musical instruments. Films and comics are just two things he is best know for.
Not everything Jodorowsky produces is gold, but it is humbling how many things he attempts, becomes reliably good at, and usually offers experiences unlike anyone else. He is 92 years old, but still sharp, learning, and creating new things. Not sure if it's drugs, his religious followers memeing him into a demigod, or pure luck.
I am not a fan of his films and other output, but most of his comics are good and even the few disappointing ones are still interesting.

So there are a lot of recommendations for old books. Are there any for new books? I look at Comixology new releases on a Wednesday and it's the same old thing: no book, mainstream, indy, even manga, has a cover that grabs me enough to make me part with my shekels and give it a whirl. What hidden gems am I overlooking?

I'm willing to try anything, though I'd probably draw the line at 'cishet whitey bad' and My Little Pony.
Undertaker, Usagi Yojimbo, Thorgal, and Mouse Guard are still ongoing. Last one moves at a glacial pace unfortunately. East of West completed in 2019.
There are simply not that many good ongoing American comics out right now. I liked Resident Alien quite a bit, and it just ended last year. I've been hearing good things about Beasts of Burden, but I have not read it yet. Port of Earth volume 1 was decent. For a modern American comic tackling issues of colonialism, immigration, police, corporations, news, and so on it manages to not devolve to typical contemporary cliches.

That sounds awful.

Hey gang, remember that cool silver age adventure hero? Well now he's a war crime committing traitor! I know, fun!
King needs to see a psychologist, get into endurance sports, or find Jesus. Writing comics clearly does not help his PTSD and his guilt over crimes he likely committed working for CIA.


I've come to understand that increasingly comic creatives have made books that they and their peers wanted to read; fans be screwed. This has been the increasing sentiment to today where aside from a handful of titles, everything is made for other professionals.

That wasn't a problem in the 90s when those books were the exception instead of the rule. Hell, a number of them like Challengers of the Unknown are awesome cult books. But starting with Ellis and Stormwatch, it feels like comics started to not just encourage niche books. They actively pushed them to the exclusion of the truly popular.

It's not just that people like Ed Brubaker and Greg Rucka turned the Bat books into Vertigo comics or Joe Quesada tried something similar with books like Captain America. Its that the sales dipped due to this. Rather than learn the lesson; they'd bring in someone like Jim Lee. He'd boost sales on Batman. Then they'd turn around and try to go back to the fucking well again!

I don't so much mind Crossed as its a symbol of people who are running the show.
The first part of your post is what people like Chuck Dixon and Cooke have been saying for years. Except that problems started back in late 70s according to them. That's when obsessive fanboys finally started getting into important creative and managerial positions. Things just escalated over years since. This is a third decade dominated by fanboys writing books for other fanboys. Of course, these people are dumbfounded as to why manga and scholastic outsell them, and why European comics keep gaining more ground in American comics market every year.

Yeah, it is hard to understand what DC's higher ups are thinking with this stuff.
It's nepotism. King and other people that have been around for a while have enough connections to always get work. Bendis is the best example of that. In spite of poor sales of his books, he is still getting work.
 
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The first part of your post is what people like Chuck Dixon and Cooke have been saying for years. Except that problems started back in late 70s according to them.
The point of no return gets crossed, as with so many things, when the direct market kicks off in the '80s. At that point the industry commits to addressing the audience that already buys its products. Half a generation later the only people who make comics are people who grew up obsessed with comics. Half a generation after that the top writers in the industry are former Warren Ellis Forum posters. And here we are.

King needs to see a psychologist, get into endurance sports, or find Jesus. Writing comics clearly does not help his PTSD and his guilt over crimes he likely committed working for CIA.
I once thought to myself, why is Tom King such a fucking prick online all the time? And then I thought, you know, it's not like the Company hires from a talent pool of primarily nice people.

You nailed Grant Morrison's deal, by the way. Poor guy is gonna die mad that the most successful thing he ever wrote was a Batman story, and the most successful thing he could ever write again would be another Batman story.
 
The first part of your post is what people like Chuck Dixon and Cooke have been saying for years. Except that problems started back in late 70s according to them. That's when obsessive fanboys finally started getting into important creative and managerial positions. Things just escalated over years since. This is a third decade dominated by fanboys writing books for other fanboys. Of course, these people are dumbfounded as to why manga and scholastic outsell them, and why European comics keep gaining more ground in American comics market every year.

My point is actually different. Dixon is commenting on creatives. Writers and artists. I'm talking about editors.

Brief rant, Dixon and Cooke are exhibits A and B of the writer ends problem.

Dixon kept trying to make DC superhero titles into pirates, Westerns, and shit. Batman isn't a fucking pirate book anymore than its a place for you to exorcise your years of murdering muslims. Dixon doesn't really prefer capes and cowls.

I don't think it's 'fanboys.' The fanboys put out good comics. Geoff Johns, Mark Waid, and Jeph Loeb were all actual fans and put out good work.

It was the next generation, the current one that's the problem.

Scott Snyder, Gail Simone, Greg Rucka, and Tom King. Fake Geek Girls. They don't give a fuck about heroes. Many of them actively despise superhero. They write them because you can make more off one issue of Batman than thirty of your indie horror comic at Image.

My point is that beginning around the 90s, the editorial mindset changed. Archie Goodwin may have loved Challengers. But he wasn't going to keep it alive rebooting it and putting talent on it. He took Loeb and Sale and put them on Batman; leading to some really hot selling batman books. Today, editors like Archie don't exist.
 
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