Springtrapp - Batshit Otherkin Pedophile Sadist and Her Brainwashed Child Bride

[Delicious Stickmeat]

Also why do you keep referring to both me and Lawrence with "she" pronouns. I only like for friends to use she for me, and I don't think Lawrence wants them used for him at all.

Sorry, no can do bubs. See, I'm actually transgender. As in, really fucking dysphoric about my body. As in, it causes me a lot of emotional pain and gutwrenching when I get misgendered maliciously.

Actually being transgender is not something you just "hang up" and forget about when it doesn't suit you. You don't "fall back" on your birth gender as you choose, because your birth gender is fucking WRONG. You don't just "let your friends call you she". Nuh uh, nope. That's not being transgender. That is, stealing SJW's words, appropriating something you aren't a part of.

If you were actually a transman, you wouldn't "like your friends using she" because every time they did it it would be another stab in the gut, another reminder that you aren't right, and everyone around you notices.

Sorry, you aren't trans. To me, you're the equivalent of a white man dressing up in blackface for a minstrel show.

 

[DirtbagDeluxe]

Seriously though, miss, whatever it is you're trying to accomplish here clearly isn't going to work and it's obvious we upset you, so why on Earth would you ever consider coming back?

Now you've done it

this blood is on your hands

@Stray Sheep you threatened to kill yourself for notes, for being told to clean your room, for losing the wifi for not cleaning your room, for 700 other minor things, and now for this. Good job overlooking the rest of @lolwut 's post telling you to leave, which is pretty sound advice.

I'm pretty sure this is exactly what you came here for, though. Apparently you lost a lot of followers for being an asshole, so maybe you can make some new pity friends!

My suggestion is for the most part, ignore this one. She desperately wants to paint herself as a victim and I'm sure she's jealous of the attention Grease gets here.

 

[Letmeoffofspringswildride]

Read it when I first got here.

So why do you think it's acceptable to badger someone to leak a trans person's birthname? And more importantly, why do you think it's acceptable to say it on a public forum like that @Letmeoffofspringswildride? Also an anon gave me a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT name so I'm not sure if that name even is Lawrence's birth name.

An anon lmfao.
I got the name from darzie, who actually. You know. Visited in person. And met her parents in person.

And I call her by she pronouns because I've been on HRT for ~4 months and have horrible horrible dysphoria and I hate transtrenders, and Rosie in particular.

Edit: I'm actually going to elaborate a bit here.
When I met Rose, there were three very important things she told me. Her age, where she lived and that she'd been on HRT for a year. (After seeing the effects of HRT first hand, this is hilarious to me now).
All three of those were lies. Rosie likes to say that lying about her age is a small thing, but it is not. To date an apparent 23/24 whatever year old is very very different to dating a 17 year old. Especially because I have a bad past with being 15 and dating a 25 year old (mistake, seriously.)
As a budding trans baby, meeting someone who was apparently on T was a very big game changer for me coming to terms with myself. You have -no idea-.

Edit x2 combo because hubby reminded me: If she's lied about these things, to a romantic partner none-the-less, what else is she lying about.

 

[fishercat]

I'm just kinda going with the flow when it comes to pronouns, because this is all really confusing. So many people and pronouns to keep track of.

 

[DirtbagDeluxe]

Yeah, she's just whining on her tumblr about us, fishing for asspats. I know we're thirsty for Grease's antics, but unless someone wants to grant her heartfelt wish and make a thread () let's not play her game.
Edit: especially since she can't even be bothered to post her rage here, she just popped in to stir the pot and then flee to the hugbox. I'm owed cry typing gdi

 

[100 Whole Bepis]

Wait a minute.

I only like for friends to use she for me,

lel

 

[Stray Sheep]

I'm not even gonna acknowledge people calling me a girl, because if you're not gonna give me any basic respect I'm gonna pass right over you.

@Stray Sheep while I'm at it

I see you 'vague blogging' about people all the time. You recently went after one of Greasetrap's 16 year old exes and harassed and bullied them into a breakdown for 'vague blogging' (this is a tw: ableism dumb term) about you while he was trying to talk about his experience. Holding others to standards you don't adhere to yourself is pretty abusive especially when you act the way you do. Silencing abuse victims with more abuse and bullying is not very SJW of you, you silly goose.

I leave people alone until they bother me. What they did triggered my (professionally diagnosed) paranoia and then they continued to do it after I said I don't want people to so yeah I'm not gonna be nice to them.

Well @DirtbagDeluxe beat me to what I was going to ask, unfortunately.

I guess I'll ask, how much attention does @Lawrencegordxn really pay to you? I've seen people say he replaces people after some time, how do you feel about these accusations? Would you say they are accurate?

We talk pretty frequently, he Skype calls me a few times a week when he can, if neither of us are busy, and most other times he messages me, even though sometimes I don't see it because Skype is a bugged mess of an IM app.

I'll humour you and address you with he pronouns, because at least it isn't that "it" or other nounself bullshit. Now my general question in all of this is in the face of all of these damning accusations and a pretty hefty pile of receipts showing Springy to be an absuer, why do you remain? You do realize there are other people who will treat you properly, yes? And that comes without the heavy-ass baggage of being a horrid individual to boot.

This ain't healthy, so why don't you value yourself a bit more and get the hell out of this shituation?

I have a few other partners that treat me well, and Lawrence treats me right also. He's done bad things but he's improved A LOT and I'm proud of him for that. I'm not gonna leave behind someone that makes me happy.

If you were actually a transman, you wouldn't "like your friends using she" because every time they did it it would be another stab in the gut, another reminder that you aren't right, and everyone around you notices.

I'm not a trans man though? I don't really have much of a gender, I actually don't mind most pronouns, but using "he" pronouns and presenting as (mostly) male is the only way people will acknowledge me as legit trans (tm).

lel

If you were paying attention earlier, I said she =/= female, which is why I dislike people like you all using she pronouns for me.

I really don't want a thread, most my blog is aesthetic, video games, bad jokes, and sometimes a weird combination of the 3, beyond the occasional (more frequent as of recent) breakdowns. So it's not like you'll get much out of that. You guys kept tagging me so I came to answer your questions.

 

[100 Whole Bepis]

If you were paying attention earlier, I said she =/= female, which is why I dislike people like you all using she pronouns for me.

That doesn't make any sense and you know it. If you really cared about your gender identity you would insist on proper pronouns from everyone. She = female. That's the whole point of trans people fighting for proper gender recognition. You've been confirmed for transtrender. Congratulations.

 

[Letmeoffofspringswildride]

If you put that foot any further down your throat you're going to hit the bottom of your lung and then you'll really be in trouble.

 

[Delicious Stickmeat]

I'm not a trans man though? I don't really have much of a gender, I actually don't mind most pronouns, but using "he" pronouns and presenting as (mostly) male is the only way people will acknowledge me as legit trans (tm).

Yeah, no, that doesn't swing with me either. Unless you're telling me you lack the cognitive functions required to understand and grasp the concept of sex and gender. If that's the case, you wouldn't be posting here. You wouldn't even have any sense of self. Braindead is what I'm getting at.

You are either male, or female. One or the other. Liberal view since I'm a tranny, what your psyche says and what your body is may be different, but it's either one, or the other. I know it, you know it, even though you desperately want to deny it for speshul snowflake oppression points.

I'll ask you the same questions I ask every other speshul gender snowflake.

1. Define your gender in concrete terms, without referencing the current male/female binary. Please explain it in positive terms (this means, no comparison by negatives, i.e. "It's not X or Y). Demonstrate to me, exactly, using logic, how in your case, the gender binary becomes a gender triad.

2. Ok, so what sort of genitals does a someone like yourself have? Since we don't have the technology needed to align your nounself gender with your body, how would you feel about the removal of all primary and secondary sex characteristics? Since, as you admit, you are neither male nor female, you must be experiencing an amazing amount of body dysphoria, and the only ethical fix for that would be to remove any of the dysphoric causing attributes.

 

[Stray Sheep]

That doesn't make any sense and you know it. If you really cared about your gender identity you would insist on proper pronouns from everyone. She = female. That's the whole point of trans people fighting for proper gender recognition. You've been confirmed for transtrender. Congratulations.

Since you all are stalking my blog I'm sure you all already saw the post I made about all the shit I'm doing about my gender but let me clarify:

I am heavily considering risking getting kicked out my house so I can legally change my name, and approached my boss about my gender right when I got the only job available close enough to me and asked him to call me John rather than my birth name. In Texas, it's legal to fire someone over being trans, so I could have lost the job on the spot, and then my parents would have kicked me out. But hey I like to use different pronouns because my gender isn't exactly solid, so ya know.

1. Define your gender in concrete terms, without referencing the current male/female binary. Please explain it in positive terms (this means, no comparison by negatives, i.e. "It's not X or Y). Demonstrate to me, exactly, using logic, how in your case, the gender binary becomes a gender triad.

2. Ok, so what sort of genitals does a someone like yourself have? Since we don't have the technology needed to align your nounself gender with your body, how would you feel about the removal of all primary and secondary sex characteristics? Since, as you admit, you are neither male nor female, you must be experiencing an amazing amount of body dysphoria, and the only ethical fix for that would be to remove any of the dysphoric causing attributes.

1. But you basically just explained it. Gender isn't binary, or even a "triad". Gender exists on a spectrum, and I guess if you had to put me on that spectrum I'd be right in the middle?

2. I'm AFAB so,figure it out for yourself. And yes I actually do experience dysphoria, but I know there isn't a surgery that's gonna fix that, which is fucking miserable honestly. (Not to mention you don't have to experience dysphoria to be trans, but that's off topic in my particular case since I do experience it quite a bit). If I find a way to stop feeling miserable about having gendered parts I'll jump right on it as soon as I can.

 

[noisemachine]

@Stray Sheep, it honestly sounds to me like you may be agender, which is actual a valid gender and not the mogai-archive ~genderless~ crap you insist on using. But why do you use this "genderless" term? Isn't it just the same thing as agender?

 

[Lurkingjay]

@Stray Sheep Can you at least acknowledge that people calling you a girl/feminine-gendered terms when your name is Catherine and you accept "she" pronouns is not deliberately hurtful? I'm happy enough to use masculine pronouns for you and Lawrence, and I'll admit there have been some people in the thread being a bit dickish about this when it comes to Lawrence, but you're jumping to "these people are hateful misgendering fucks who are trying to get me to commit suicide!" reeeeaaaalllll fast. Most people will assume that "she" and a feminine name mean that "girl"/etc. are acceptable -- if they're not, you may want to consider adopting "they" instead.

You say Lawrence treats you right, but how? You haven't given one concrete example of Lawrence even treating you as a friend, beyond talking to you about Saw and so on, and Lawrence doesn't seem to acknowledge you. Seriously, can we get one concrete anecdote or piece of evidence that this relationship is not entirely harmful?

You keep talking about how Lawrence has done bad things in the past and is trying to change; how do you reconcile that with the evidence that Lawrence's bad behavior continues more or less to the present day? I'm not seeing any evidence of change. Enlighten me?

 

[100 Whole Bepis]

Since you all are stalking my blog I'm sure you all already saw the post I made about all the shit I'm doing about my gender but let me clarify:

I am heavily considering risking getting kicked out my house so I can legally change my name, and approached my boss about my gender right when I got the only job available close enough to me and asked him to call me John rather than my birth name. In Texas, it's legal to fire someone over being trans, so I could have lost the job on the spot, and then my parents would have kicked me out. But hey I like to use different pronouns because my gender isn't exactly solid, so ya know.

So if you're dysphoric and miserable enough to risk losing your job and family over this, why the blithering fuck would you let anyone call you "she"?

It's especially hilarious because I actually believe that non-binary/genderfluid conditions exist, though they're a lot rarer than Tumblr makes them out to be. But you can't just pretend that pronouns mean whatever you want them to, whenever you want them to especially when it apparently means this much to you. When you strip away their importance, you delegitimize them. And that's shitty. If it means this much to you, why are you being so wishy-washy with it? I smell some bullshit.

 

[KatsuKitty]

@Stray Sheep, it honestly sounds to me like you may be agender, which is actual a valid gender and not the mogai-archive ~genderless~ crap you insist on using. But why do you use this "genderless" term? Isn't it just the same thing as agender?

The legitimacy of this identity is actually a matter of debate, as no coherent psychological profile or accepted definition for it exists.

 

[Delicious Stickmeat]

1. But you basically just explained it. Gender isn't binary, or even a "triad". Gender exists on a spectrum, and I guess if you had to put me on that spectrum I'd be right in the middle?

2. I'm AFAB so,figure it out for yourself. And yes I actually do experience dysphoria, but I know there isn't a surgery that's gonna fix that, which is fucking miserable honestly. (Not to mention you don't have to experience dysphoria to be trans, but that's off topic in my particular case since I do experience it quite a bit). If I find a way to stop feeling miserable about having gendered parts I'll jump right on it as soon as I can.

No, gender exists as a binary. You are male, or female. You "can" be none, but this requires such a massive amount of cognitive destruction that, for lack of a better term, you are effectively nobody. It's not a spectrum, you don't "fall" somewhere on it. It is a core facet of your identity. In fact, it's so damn important, that it causes massive emotional and mental damage if/when the psyche's gender identity mismatches the body!

You can be male with feminine attributes and interests. You can be female with masculine likes and interests. Your likes, interests, hobbies, etc have zero bearing in this instance.

And yes, you do have to experience dysphoria to be trans. If you aren't experiencing dysphoria (Dysphoria (from Greek: δύσφορος (dysphoros), δυσ-, difficult, and φέρειν, to bear) is a profound state of unease or dissatisfaction.) then you are not transgender.

See, this all falls back to appropriating something you do not belong to. You, along with your fellow trenders, have no earthly clue what it's actually like to suffer from gender dysphoria. You don't get the pain, suffering, and anguish that's a part of it all . You don't suffer "a profound state of unease or dissatisfaction", as it's defined. Trust me, if you actually did, you'd be nodding your head and agreeing with every word I'm saying, much like every OTHER moderately sane, medically diagnosed "legit" tranny I know does when this topic pops up.

 

[itswhitebread]

The legitimacy of this identity is actually a matter of debate, as no coherent psychological profile or accepted definition for it exists.

Someone (on tumblr, so it probably doesn't count) defined it as 'a desire [or need?] to be seen as genderless or androgynous, being of neither gender or sex visually' (paraphrased).

 

[Stray Sheep]

@Stray Sheep Can you at least acknowledge that people calling you a girl/feminine-gendered terms when your name is Catherine and you accept "she" pronouns is not deliberately hurtful? I'm happy enough to use masculine pronouns for you and Lawrence, and I'll admit there have been some people in the thread being a bit dickish about this when it comes to Lawrence, but you're jumping to "these people are hateful misgendering fucks who are trying to get me to commit suicide!" reeeeaaaalllll fast. Most people will assume that "she" and a feminine name mean that "girl"/etc. are acceptable -- if they're not, you may want to consider adopting "they" instead.

You say Lawrence treats you right, but how? You haven't given one concrete example of Lawrence even treating you as a friend, beyond talking to you about Saw and so on, and Lawrence doesn't seem to acknowledge you. Seriously, can we get one concrete anecdote or piece of evidence that this relationship is not entirely harmful?

You keep talking about how Lawrence has done bad things in the past and is trying to change; how do you reconcile that with the evidence that Lawrence's bad behavior continues more or less to the present day? I'm not seeing any evidence of change. Enlighten me?

I was very nice about that until someone insisted on calling me miss when I said I'm not a girl, because I understand me going by a traditionally female name (that I use because I identify strongly with the character from the ATLUS game) and letting certain people use she pronouns can be confusing.

I have a list of names I go by on my blog though, and more of them are male or neutral names than female ones.

I use they pronouns as well, but like with she, I only let friends use them because I feel like others would only use them because they is consider "default" or whatever. Back when I went by solely they and he (when I was first discovering my gender) people only ever used they and it bugged me.

And Lawrence and I don't really talk about Saw much. He and Adam want me to watch it, but I'm waiting for a time we can all get on call and watch it together. He messages me when he sees I'm having a bad day (not often anymore, since I'm the worst at asking for help directly, and he's really not on Tumblr much these days) and lets me blabber on about Saints Row and Life is Strange when I need to. I've had a friend that liked Saints Row get mad at me for talking about it too much (admittedly, that friend was emotionally abusive and I'm glad she's out of my life now).

So if you're dysphoric and miserable enough to risk losing your job and family over this, why the blithering fuck would you let anyone call you "she"?

It's especially hilarious because I actually believe that non-binary/genderfluid conditions exist, though they're a lot rarer than Tumblr makes them out to be. But you can't just pretend that pronouns mean whatever you want them to, whenever you want them to especially when it apparently means this much to you. When you strip away their importance, you delegitimize them. And that's shitty. If it means this much to you, why are you being so wishy-washy with it? I smell some bullshit.

Because I don't mind it from time to time because like I said, my gender isn't exactly solid. However I only want people who will acknowledge that me using them doesn't exactly mean I'm a girl

Honestly I'm done with @Delicious Stickmeat, since what you're doing is basically insisting I'm a girl and ignoring the effect it has on me.

 

[100 Whole Bepis]

I use they pronouns as well, but like with she, I only let friends use them because I feel like others would only use them because they is consider "default" or whatever.

So you pretty much admit that you don't like "they" because it's "too default". I.E. "not special enough for me."

Nice.

 

[DirtbagDeluxe]

@Stray Sheep clean your room

He messages me when he sees I'm having a bad day (not often anymore, since I'm the worst at asking for help directly, and he's really not on Tumblr much these days)

lol it begins. Read back. This is the pattern.