Squid Game - battle Royale but adults!

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I enjoyed it but I'm not sure what the point was for the organ harvesting sub plot.
The cop was a later addition. I imagine it was an attempt at giving the cop something to do and showcasing that even the people within the system of the games were fucking around, trying to get paid because they're not living great lives either. And the gang masters were allowing it through sheer stupidity or because they didn't actually care what happened to the contestants once they died.

I personally feel it could have worked better if the cop found out the organ harvesting plot was how his brother had died. That or the cop specifically working on this organ harvesting case and his detective work led him to one of the helper elves of the games, who he then followed to the boat, and his entire thing was the organ harvesting only to come upon this bullshit of a game show.

Or if anyway or anything of importance came of it. Instead it felt more like a weird villain of the week plot that painted itself to look like it was going somewhere... and then didn't.
 
The cop was a later addition. I imagine it was an attempt at giving the cop something to do and showcasing that even the people within the system of the games were fucking around, trying to get paid because they're not living great lives either. And the gang masters were allowing it through sheer stupidity or because they didn't actually care what happened to the contestants once they died.

I personally feel it could have worked better if the cop found out the organ harvesting plot was how his brother had died. That or the cop specifically working on this organ harvesting case and his detective work led him to one of the helper elves of the games, who he then followed to the boat, and his entire thing was the organ harvesting only to come upon this bullshit of a game show.

Or if anyway or anything of importance came of it. Instead it felt more like a weird villain of the week plot that painted itself to look like it was going somewhere... and then didn't.
The cop plot itself is utterly pointless in its entirety. The big reveal of it is that the GM of the event was his brother and prior winner means nothing ultimately because the cop 'dies' and the game is gearing up for another round a year later. Nothing would have changed if all those scenes were cut, except the doctor would have probably died in the marble game.

If they wanted a sequel bait, should have been the guy getting on the plane and sitting next to him is the cop and close there
 
I am kind of disappointed this wasn't a Splatoon adaptation like I thought it would be. I certainly can't be the only one who thought this? Either that, or something about Splatoon 3 which I wondered why people called it "The squid game" because it is like calling Minecraft "the block game"

This is the same person who thought Bird Box was a loot crate for bird lovers of some sort. I'm a bit slow in the mind when it comes to stuff like this.
 
On top of the splatoon algorithm gaming shit referring to splatoona squid game now being replaced by this series, I got spoiled about the ending before seeing it. There's some shit that makes no sense obviously but the sequel baiting shits even more absurd.
So the Old guy reveals the games were basically made as a way for him to pass on his wealth to someone else willy wonka style while also playing in the games as a contestant because he doesn't have long to live anyways, so why the fuck are the games still happening after he's dead and the fortune's used up? Why the fuck does the protagonist guy throw out his whole motivation to go see his kid after seeing the shit that happened with him before he got into the games take place? He could have easily gotten on the plane, seen his family, then coyly went back and intervened without them knowing. It's pure sequel bait shit in the most hamfisted way lmao.
 
Kinda surprised this show hasn't been canceled yet for having the VIPS be gay, rich assholes.
Some have tried, none will succeed because it's a show written by Koreans. Can't get too crazy when we're all POCs together. #StopAsianHate

Saw an article here on KF about it being problematic that one of the VIPs is into getting his dick sucked by a pretty Korean boy. Never mind the fact that one of the biggest stars west-side is Wi Ha-joon, the guy who got on his knees for daddy, almost exclusively for his looks and muscular physique (a quick image search will provide copious amounts of lady fap material). You can see why this hate train will never well and truly get off the ground.

And yes, the VIPs are portrayed as evil whitey so I don't think many will mind when that's the usual suspect of absolute evil-doing. A lot of factors leaving such a hate campaign dead on arrival.
 
Is anyone else curious about what would happen if every contestant died before reaching the final game? It's not impossible, especially considering that almost every game except the first two is designed so that at least half the players at minimum are guaranteed to die.

Conversely, assuming a best case scenario where every player survives (except in the games where it's impossible for there to not be losers), that would mean there could be a final round with a total number of 114 players. How the hell would that work?
This was one of my questions. It would have only taken a line or two, but with the first game I could easily see the mass mob panic getting the attention of the motion sensor as people freaked out, knocked other people down, etc. Which means that some years they'd lose all 456 players in that round.

Really, the number control of the players was entirely random; some games theoretically everyone could survive, however unlikely (Red Light Green Light, the sugar licking, the glass panels), while others were explicitly designed to cut the numbers in half each time, plus the pre-planned riot. If anything, the riot being set up was something I liked less, because the pretense of fairness, while just a pretense, fell away completely in letting the strong kill the weak for however long they let the riot go on for. Not that we should expect fairness, but it didn't jibe with a system that let the crazy lady (I couldn't remember anyone's names) get a bye round because she wasn't picked for marbles.

Sure, there were other issues - by the time they got down to the last 16 and the glass bridge, most of the non-main characters didn't look like they could have survived the riot or the Tug of War. Also, why the old guy pulled out when he did - was it just because he liked the main guy being so nice to him so much, even after he'd have to have had that conversation with him in the outside in episode 2 to try and get him back into the game? And why didn't the main guy go down and help the drunk himself to win the final game? No reason he couldn't have, then just gone back up there. And the crazy lady killing the thug was expected, but she didn't at all seem the sort to sacrifice herself to do so - and what if the plate they'd landed on was the strong one? Would it still have broken under their combined weight dropping on it, leaving the remaining contestants stuck?
A few characters talked about sharing the money, so it seemed like a possibility - but maybe it was just optimism for the sake of coping? Given the rules of the final game (the winner is the last person standing, and only death would eliminate players from the final game), I don't see how it would be possible to have more than one winner. I think the game would just carry on for as long as it took.
The way the money was talked about, the contestants were being lead to believe that yes, more than one person could win; if the translation is accurate than I believe they're told that those who win all six games will walk out of there with a portion of the prize money. I think by the final three though only the main guy doesn't realise there's only going to be one winner.

The cop plot itself is utterly pointless in its entirety. The big reveal of it is that the GM of the event was his brother and prior winner means nothing ultimately because the cop 'dies' and the game is gearing up for another round a year later.
The cop plot gave the hope that the cops could arrive and shut everything down, save the day, fix the whole situation. Also, it showed that all those faceless guards are not just complicit, but worse, have their own equally evil shit going on (like the one who tells the cop that the zombie player without a kidney was a woman because they all took turns on her) so don't look to them for breaking ranks and helping out. But not only does he fail, it turns out his brother works for the organisation.

But what that sets up is questions: if the brother won six years ago, why was he only just missing now? Why would he go back and be a lackey of it all if he's been through it? And when they have that flashback at the end to the old guy saying that after playing it, it's not nearly as fun watching it, what effect does that have on the brother, who has played it and is now watching it? The assumption is that guilt over his brother and the big boss dying is going to play in to any potential sequel, just like the main guy would have gotten on the plane and tried to move on if he hadn't seen that the old guy dying didn't mean the end of the games, just the end of his part in them.

I picked most of the twists, like that the pairing up was to find your opponent, not your partner, which seems the sort of thing some of the smarter characters would be wary of. The way the old guy is the first to keep playing Red Light, Green Light I noticed, and then when the cop is flicking through the files the first one he turns to is for player 2, not player 1 - so I knew he was secretly involved, and when they didn't explicitly show his death onscreen after the marbles, that clinched it. All the files suggest he's been running the game for decades, but now he had a tumour he decided to gamble on going in to play himself. The degree to which he was protected is unclear; they could definitely have him marked for keeping alive for most of the games, weighted the rope or something for Tug of War, that sort of thing, but even as a VIP in the game there would be lots of risks, risks he was only willing to take when his life was close to ending anyway.

Another implication is that there's Squid Games across the world, but the South Korean ones are considered one of the best. The rich white guys were such over-the-top stereotypes, and their den such a parody of excess, that it took me out of the show a bit. The show wasn't particularly about subtlety, but it was so incredibly cariacatured. Naked women painted as animals and treated as furniture - do they all get shot too?

Basically, I think there's room for a sequel series Westworld-style, where it's the same setting but is all about behind the scenes and attempts to bring the whole thing down rather than anything about the children's games. Possibly incorporating some Saw sequels style, where now that one old guy isn't involved the games stop even pretending to be fair and are just about torturing and killing for amusement, rather than his original purpose. Hell, they could even try and pull a Hunger Games and have one where it's all sorts of past winners from worldwide competitions having to go through it again.

The most unlikely thing is for them to just do the same thing but with a new batch of players, which wouldn't have the same appeal anyway. There's no recapturing what made people so invested in this one, and there's also no way Netflix will leave well enough alone, so expect whatever comes next to look very, very different.
 
Squid Game was fun but it's really just a new version of the classic Battle Royale. Like the Hunger Games. Though, who says a rip-off can't be good.

BTW what do youz guess is the reason for its success? I think it really has to do with capitalism and economic and political decline. Dystopias have become very popular since the Great Recession, but unlike The Hunger Games or your typical YA dystopia, it's not set in the past, the future, on other planets or a parallel world, but our contemporary world, so viewers can better identify with it.

Also, it shows how South Korea is a real life dystopia just like North Korea, only right-wing instead of left. Weirdly, even though everyone knows how bad North Korea is, nearly no one knows the South isn't any better.
 
Squid Game was fun but it's really just a new version of the classic Battle Royale. Like the Hunger Games. Though, who says a rip-off can't be good.

BTW what do youz guess is the reason for its success? I think it really has to do with capitalism and economic and political decline. Dystopias have become very popular since the Great Recession, but unlike The Hunger Games or your typical YA dystopia, it's not set in the past, the future, on other planets or a parallel world, but our contemporary world, so viewers can better identify with it.

Also, it shows how South Korea is a real life dystopia just like North Korea, only right-wing instead of left. Weirdly, even though everyone knows how bad North Korea is, nearly no one knows the South isn't any better.
Yeah I also think that combined with the show's simplicity in the games helped it gain favor along with well being available everywhere. It did it's best in essentially being a simple enough story that balanced things out well to resonate with audiences.
 
It reached its peak with the tug-of-war episode but by the last two installments had run low on gas. The final episode stalled in a busy intersection. I had to jump out and walk the rest of the way.
 
BTW what do youz guess is the reason for its success? I think it really has to do with capitalism and economic and political decline. Dystopias have become very popular since the Great Recession, but unlike The Hunger Games or your typical YA dystopia, it's not set in the past, the future, on other planets or a parallel world, but our contemporary world, so viewers can better identify with it.

Also, it shows how South Korea is a real life dystopia just like North Korea, only right-wing instead of left. Weirdly, even though everyone knows how bad North Korea is, nearly no one knows the South isn't any better.

The one other reason for that is because of how recent Western Woke media releases turned some people off from watching shows made in the West, and want something different.
 
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Squid Game could outdo Parasite as the new favorite K-Drama that will make all other Hollywood creations irrelevant as the years go on. I don’t know how many awards will win, but it will be still funny how much they thank it due to “diversity” despite not even really knowing that much about the elements of what the show represents.

Normies might care about stuff about this, but when you look past the mainstream approved talking points and buzzwords, you start to question “How could a South Korean show inspired by other Asian survival entertainment pieces that were already critically acclaimed do better than a random remake of West Side Story that literally no one asked for?”
 
First part of Squid game was enjoyable. Then the plotholes started piling up and it did ruin the experience a bit. Its not perfect but enjoyable with a strong message.

To me its a mix of Parasite (2019) with Battle Royale (manga and live action) and Saw series.

8.5/10

 
First part of Squid game was enjoyable. Then the plotholes started piling up and it did ruin the experience a bit. Its not perfect but enjoyable with a strong message.

To me its a mix of Parasite (2019) with Battle Royale (manga and live action) and Saw series.

8.5/10

I genuinely hate how people keep trying to compare Parasite to Squid Game, because it feels like they didn't even watch the entirety of the fucking film to understand why it worked.

Remember the quote: "It takes two to tango"? Because that was the film in a nutshell, you have the poor family (the Kims) being smart bums acting like a bunch of assholes, stealing, forging documents and even taking over other people's jobs. They clearly have the will to do that but because they are poor, they chose to steal instead of focusing on getting a decent life. The rich family (the Parks) are ignorant retards that are so clueless to the world around them that they have maids to do all the work. The kids are dumb, the mother is even dumber (to a comedic degree) and the father is king dick in the family. When the two families collided, all the actions each took showed how nasty both are and are ironically parasites of their own. The Parks' stupidity drains the Kims' patience while their money is slowly being siphoned by them. The director even said that the film clearly had no villain and only the former maids were the villains because they wanted revenge.

In Squid Game, it is painfully clear that the rich are the villains and the series is not hiding it. The poor are painted as the good guys but are never seen as flawed. The rich blows their money on the games presented and all their culture and whatnot. There is no advanced thinking other than "rich bad, poor good". Meanwhile Parasite made it thought-provoking that both sides were clearly in the wrong.
 
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