Squid Game - battle Royale but adults!

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That's a lot of wall of text and seething... and I agree with many points! You mention this:
And what grinds my gears the most, above EVERYTHING ELSE, is how he fucking drops his daughter. What happened to the man in season one who used up all his money trying to get her a toy for her birthday? What happened to the guy that was clearly upset another man would be raising his daughter in a completely different country? What happened to the man who struggled with being an inadequate father and a shitty son? What happened to the father figure that tried to help Saebyeok until the very end?
I didn't touch on this since it's not a unique theme for this show, rather it's a general one for all media today. Since you mentioned this, I will bring it up; Antinatalism

Modern media has for some (((reason))) a depopulation agenda pushed into the story as a "moral" point. Notice how most characters are shitty to their biological kids, but are steping up as a parent for someone elses kid. It's like some type of a manifested cuck story directing the outcome. Gihun kills himself for a strangers baby and gives up on his own daughter!? This is retarded. Also, since the show is about killing off as many people as possible,

This is exactly what you are noticing with the show, this "I'm a bad parent to my own kids, now I will be better with a strangers baby instead = good person" plot driving the direction of the show.
 
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Spoiler: Sky Squid was some lazy ass naming; more sperging within.
The final game was pretty lame, we had Min-su tripping out in one corner, Coin being such a retard, and the other finalists we barely knew anything about besides 100 being comically evil that it's almost unbelievable
FUCK JUNHEE. FUCK HER IN THE ASS. SHE'S FUCKING SHIT. I HATE HER. WHO THE FUCK TAKES HER FUCKING CHILD INTO AN AREA WHERE SOMEONE COULD BE TASKED WITH KILLING YOU? WHO THE FUCK DOES THAT?
The entire character of Jun-hee proved my beliefs that kpop idols should never get into acting. She constantly has the same face, talks the same, barely any emoting and her emotions barely show anything. Maybe the plastic surgery freezes Jo Yuri's face, but dear god, girl can't act for shit. Her entire character is dull and consists variations of "I'm pregnant" "The baby" "I don't feel good" I didn't feel much when she died compared to Geum-ja. In season 2, I occasionally mixed her up with Young-mi as I couldn't tell them apart, both were that bland in their characterization.
 
Have two episodes left of season 3. I like the contestants more in season 1 than i do in season 2 and 3. Best thing about the insufferable contestants is you know their fate.

Looking forward to ending it but one of the best new shows I’ve watched in the last few years. And I don’t consoom alot of tv these days.
 
That's a lot of wall of text and seething... and I agree with many points! You mention this:

I didn't touch on this since it's not a unique theme for this show, rather it's a general one for all media today. Since you mentioned this, I will bring it up; Antinatalism

Modern media has for some (((reason))) a depopulation agenda pushed into the story as a "moral" point. Notice how most characters are shitty to their biological kids, but are steping up as a parent for someone elses kid. It's like some type of a manifested cuck story directing the outcome. Gihun kills himself for a strangers baby and gives up on his own daughter!? This is retarded. Also, since the show is about killing off as many people as possible,

This is exactly what you are noticing with the show, this "I'm a bad parent to my own kids, now I will be better with a strangers baby instead = good person" plot driving the direction of the show.
Yeah, just finished it the other day, and I noticed that too.

The troon propaganda was the most blatant Netflixization, like this not-so-subtle hymn to the joys of letting grown men shit and wank in the stall next to you:
Screenshot 2025-07-03 101252.webp

... but the antinatalism was even more insidious. Childbirth and parenting was a major theme in this season and was relevant to most of the central characters (except the main character, oddly enough; I forgot he even had a daughter until the last episode), but every parent is shitty, and the "good" ones only find redemption by dying for somebody else's kid.

It's not subtle.

I fully expect this to be a major theme Netflix pushes on Asian viewers going forward; only real question is, how long until the shitty Korean parents are nobly dying to ensure the future prosperity of black babies?


Also, really not looking forward to Squid Games: LA. Don't really follow industry drama, so I have no idea if they're planning on continuing the series, but "Girlboss Commando gets drugged on a fake Chinese plane and has to fight in a Left Coast squid game, alongside assorted middle-aged girlbosses, sympathetic bipoc enbies, and evil MAGA redneck chuds with beards and/or business suits" is not something I have any interest in watching.


Other than that, it wasn't too bad. But had the show stopped at Season 1, I don't think we'd have missed out on much.
 
The troon propaganda was the most blatant Netflixization, like this not-so-subtle hymn to the joys of letting grown men shit and wank in the stall next to you:
Screenshot 2025-07-03 101252.webp
Dude this dialog made me laugh my balls off. I wonder if someone was mocking the whole bathroom debacle with this line. It just felt like dead pan humor.

Even the fight scene that the troon was in just felt like a parody lol.
 
how long until the shitty Korean parents are nobly dying to ensure the future prosperity of black babies?
Any moment now, it's very clear they are building up to that sentiment. I think their "K-pop" export is what i slowing down the process, they probaly don't want to tarnish their Korean image yet.
 
"But muh VIPs learned the value of human life and stuff." No, I think they were all shocked into silence by how much of a dumb, dramatic, and egotistical fuck this guy turned out to be.
What's insane is how many people I see defending Gihun not stabbing the other players in their sleep in the name of "humanity".

On one hand we have:

* 6 Psychopaths who were told they can either go home with 10~ million each, or sacrifice 3 innocents (one of which is a literal infant) for extra money. Who willingly, proudly and openly voted to sacrifice the innocents for money they didn't even need at this point, then laughed/joked about it while eating steak.

And on the other we have:

* The literal newborn infant they were planning to sacrifice.

And I see retards going "No no no, stopping the psychos makes you just as bad as them, the moral thing to do is to do nothing and let yourself and the infant be killed!"

Gi hun chosing to let baby murders murder a baby so he can jerk himself off over what a martyr he is somehow considered the moraly righteous choice in the mind of squidgame fans.
 
I fully expect this to be a major theme Netflix pushes on Asian viewers going forward
Many Koreans don't seem to care for Squid Game after season 1, and in some cases, like kpop, they actively resent the fanbase it brought. It isn't to the levels of many Koreans refusing to listen to kpop, but they get really upset when foreigners bring up squid game to them right away.
 
Man the sloppy creative bankruptcy of koreans continues to live down to expectations. You'd think if you were just filling in the blanks between the shit you're ripping off from mangas you'd be able to avoid having a massive plot hole in every single episode.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=zIzpA1Lqluw
if you guys liked the concept of squid game and are willing to give anime a chance i would strongly suggest giving this a chance, they even have an english dub.
the games are actually interesting and the thread of death is replaced with debt slavery which i think is more physiologically terrifying
Kaiji rules, also check out Liar Game. The former has more varied setups as it goes on (starting with a 'squid game', then a heist plan against a rigged pachinko machine with a colossal jackpot, and a bunch of other stuff as he gradually takes the crime family behind it all for everything they're worth despite being a complete degenerate) while the latter is about a pair of 456-types stubbornly staying in the games to try to bring them down by defying the VIPs' ideas of "human nature", except they're actually smart about it and the games aren't inconsistent unfair asspulls like SG's.

I read em and would recommend that if you don't wanna sit through long-ass animes of characters scheming while staring each other down.

The Liar Game author also has a baseball comic that's pretty good too. It's not Death Baseball or anything but it's somehow similar. Corrupt throwing team owners hire a ringer to pump their numbers a bit (but not too much) without realising he's basically a version of L from Death Note who didn't skip PE class who proceeds to turn everything into his game basically out of spite.
 
Late to the game (hehe) but I'll vomit my thoughts all over your screens.
Season 3 was a little better than season 2, but I'm still dissatisfied with the ending. The games continue to have a fun premise but I never felt the games were used to their full potential. Maybe hide and seek but I hated the obvious mother/son ending. Although the pregnant chick hearing her boyfriend getting a kill over the loud speaker, then seeing him stab the troon, was pretty great. The show runners missed the opportunity to have a little newborn sized tracksuit that says "457" to give to the CGI baby.

If I were running the show I'd have had the pregnant chick on the killing team because she would feel the need to actively protect her unborn baby, rather than hiding and hoping she and her baby don't get killed. I'd still have her give birth, but then the baby doesn't get a kill (obviously) so they kill the baby in front of her.

Jump Rope was a good idea. I hated how 456 didn't just push off the guy that was pushing off everyone else, it was blindingly obvious what would happen next. 456 almost get knocked off by the same guy but actually the MC powers through and kicks off the bad guy yay!!! And I'd probably change the end of the game where the mom jumps off, because I can't imagine a fall to your death is preferable to a gunshot to the head. Feels like we didn't get really any on screen executions this season.

I also really liked the long haired VIP guy. I think he's the only VIP I ever liked in the history of the show. The VIP scenes are as terrible and stupid as ever though. The possibly Chinese woman VIP was dubbed over and it was very distracting.

Finally the last game. I feel like it was plainly obvious that the final platform will have 456 and the baby without the button being pushed and 456 would have to sacrifice himself, so I was waiting to see if they would subvert that path. They didn't and the way they went about it was unbearably stupid to me. After the baby daddy pushed off one of the guys, completing the 2nd platform, the 3 guys start beating up lunch box and only after they snap his legs in half 456 says he has an issue with it. They scuffle and it ends up being lunch box, 456, baby daddy, and old guy 100. FOR NO FUCKING REASON BABY DADDY PUSHES OFF THE OLD GUY. Literally the dumbest fucking thing to me in this season. Actually, the 2nd dumbest, because then the obvious thing happens where they get to the final platform and start fighting before the button is pressed.

Everything felt unearned and we didn't get anything out of the cop subplot, which had the perfect start in season 1. Rant over
 
The 'find the game leader/cop' plot is what drew me into season 2, but then it just rehashed season 1 with shitter characters, and a shitter ending.
Exactly this. In between S1 and S2 my mind went wild with how 456 was going to be back in the game and the cop was going to infiltrate again, or even reverse it to where the cop was a participant and 456 would infiltrate, but the cop literally did nothing the whole season. Overall, I hated how they started from square 1 again in season 2. Like, 456 had to wait years to get another chance at the phone number for the games, but at the end of S1 he literally had the phone number, so what gives? One of the biggest fumbles I've personally experienced with a show because S1 was pretty great.
 
The 'find the game leader/cop' plot is what drew me into season 2, but then it just rehashed season 1 with shitter characters, and a shitter ending.
Sae=byeok was split between Se-mi and No-eul in personality. MG Coin was a shittier Sang-woo but a dad. Seon-nyeo was a shittier religious guy + Mi-nyeo. Jun-hee was too dull. Geum-ja and Yong-sik had potential, and to an extent Seon-nyeo did too as a better antagonist. I still think player 100 was annoying, but it made sense why he still continued. Any potential interesting characters like 096, Min-su (as annoying he was) and to be fair, Se-mi, got shoved to the side or cut off.
 
I wonder if they made it without the involvement of Netflix if those themes would still be present like the tranny felt so out of place that they didn’t even hire a proper troon and just put a wig on a guy and we are supposed to believe that’s a women , it would have have made more sense if the VIPS were mostly Koreans or Asian at least
Yes, don’t know much about Korea but the troon felt out of place, especially how they made it so heroic compared to most of the other characters. Felt very Netflix. Of course the usual suspects are crying about how his death is “transmisogyny” even though they handled it with such kid gloves.

I lost interest after the first two episodes of season 3 though tbf hide and seek was a highlight. Other highlight was the darkly humorous moment when they showed all the corpses on towers and the voice said “this is what happens when you try to disrupt the outcome of a free and fair election.”

Begrudgingly finished but it was boring 🤷🏻‍♀️

Other thoughts:
-I didn’t mind min-su. Thought it was a realistic portrayal of how a lot of weak people would crumble in that situation.
-I always found the detective on a boat subplot boring but was hoping there would at least be a good pay off.
-Agree they should have left at least one character we were interested in alive for the later episodes of the season or developed the NPCs more. This was the main thing for me.
-333 didn’t bother me too much, though i guess it wasn’t very interesting. Early on 222 said something like “you don’t care about me you’re just pretending because you want my share of the money.” and we never really saw anything to the contrary.

Edit: I wasn’t a huge fan of the baby and what it did for the story but Redditors et al went full sociopath over it. Saw several comments saying basically “if you think about it…the baby had the least attachments to anyone eg no kids relying on it. It made the most sense to kill the baby. I hate how tv shows treat babies as more important than everyone else.”
 
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I haven't finished Season 3 yet but the whole storyline with the baby makes me feel very uncomfortable and not really want to watch it. Surely even in the evil murder game they would allow a woman who was giving birth to leave with her baby? How is there not even a discussion around allowing her to go? Nobody even acknowledges it at all? Why are contestants not pregnancy tested before joining? Idk it's just too much I am sorry, the show is all about "but they chose to be there!??" ok the baby sure as fuck didn't.

I don't like watching people point guns at babies and having to worry that a baby dies in Squid game tbh I don't know if I will even finish it. I hate Asians and how they always take their emotional manipulation in media way too far. Sociopathic ass people, no wonder their birth rates are so abysmal.
 
I didn't hate the troon thing as much as I thought (beyond the distraction of it being a character in the first place) because he was consistently miserable and pathetic and always written like the show was saying "yeah no shit you'll never be a woman".

Like ultimately his value was entirely in being a man (in a wig) who was a foot taller than everyone else who used his military background to protect an actual woman having a baby.
Clearly the moral here is that you can paint your nails but you can't escape macho hero instincts.

(Also nevermind future archeologists; since all the records were destroyed you're not even gonna fool the forensic investigators who dig you up two weeks from now lol.)
 
I haven't finished Season 3 yet but the whole storyline with the baby makes me feel very uncomfortable and not really want to watch it. Surely even in the evil murder game they would allow a woman who was giving birth to leave with her baby? How is there not even a discussion around allowing her to go? Nobody even acknowledges it at all? Why are contestants not pregnancy tested before joining? Idk it's just too much I am sorry, the show is all about "but they chose to be there!??" ok the baby sure as fuck didn't.

"But they chose to be there!" is something I agree with to the extent of characterization. The mother was foolish enough to try and hide her pregnancy when faced with the reality of the situation (i.e. the first game), then she made no effort to explain she was with child and needed to get the fuck out. If I remember correctly, I think the granny just happened to find out because she was always a mother. She was lucky to get as far as she did and then she proceeded to physically carry the baby into another game after birth rather than plead with the organizers to help and watch over the kid. The mother was persistently self-centered; I mentioned before but her death flag speech was essentially about "me, me, me" with the child as a cliff note.

Outside of her character specifically, I don't think the writer thought that far ahead. Not even with the mother; her characterization was consistent but it probably came from a checklist of requirements. 'She must be stubbornly independent, but also helpless, but also likeable enough people want her to stay alive (make her pregnant?).'

In the story, from the way the VIPs reacted it seemed like this was fresh occurrence. But this was also the season where one of the VIPs was female, while another mentioned having at least one child, and neither really went against it. Sourced from Wikipedia, the director claimed the whole payoff of the child's arc was because 'something something, new generation, something something' plot-wise which read as code for 'I wanna be done with this shit; a baby immediately raises stakes and makes scenes thrilling, pregnancy makes a woman more sympathetic so I don't have to put legwork into writing a compelling character, and the male lead is largely irredeemable by this point in the story so he might as well suicide dive for a child, the ultimate sacrifice.'

The baby existed as a plot device for Gihun, likely accidentally tied into the old woman/son story (a happy accident of sorts), and was attached to the underdeveloped relationship drama between Junhee and MG Coin with little thought or care put into how this would affect the characters, the story, or the world overall. It shows in the way every character reacts and behaves towards the child outside of the old woman and how things spiral for the worst after the Hide and Seek game. The old woman's son actively trying to harm the kid was a clear showcase of how low he was willing to go and what a pathetic dead end he was, which is why his mother stabbed him, and it made sense considering how wishy-washy he already was towards his mother, other women, and anyone outside himself.

Outside of that? Maybe one of those men could have been happy to kill that baby in cold blood but there's no way in hell all of them were going to be gung-ho about it. Not when the vast majority of them clearly already had enough money to have voted to just leave after the baby was born, not to mention likely having children and families of their own.

Things progressed so Writer-ssi could white knight Gihun for the last leg of the story and get paid to be done with this season.
 
This season was underwhelming in my opinion. While the baby plot was weird and the writing was a bit off that could have been forgiven if Gihun had more of a payoff. He wanted to stop the games, his rebellion got people killed and he lost it and killed the guy that didn't get them ammo (fair enough) but he ultimately changed nothing. The games in Korea ended at least for the foreseeable future but everywhere else the games are still going without hindrance. His goal wasn't to end all games everywhere so that's fine but I would argue he didn't even truly end the games in Korea. The front man is still alive and he set up the games after the old man died, he has access to obscene amounts of money, limitless connections with the VIPs and good will with them to top it off. We've had 3 seasons of the front man pleasing the VIPs so well that they call the Korea games "the best" throughout the series. It's hard for me to imagine they just let their favorite murder porn agent wander into obscurity. Instead of Seoul in 5 years time they could just get people from Busan or Incheon. I've been to those places, nobody would notice people missing.

Maybe with the coast guard and subsiquent investigation of the island the government would be made aware of what's happening but knowing the nature of Korea and the Chaebols, it's likely they could just go to another island and fund a new one with the right president. Maybe I'm dumb and the point is going over my head but I just feel unsatisfied with the ending. The MC killed himself for the sake of the child sure that's fine but his death changed nothing, his speech about humans not being horses won't stop future games or likely even change the hearts of the VIPs or onlookers and the detective once again failing to apprehend or stop his brother means the games will possibly continue. I feel like there needed to be 2 or 3 more episodes in total with atleast one focusing on the aftermath alone. Seeing something like the government's response, interpol involvement, invesitgation into VIPs, international awareness, the front man going in to hiding etc, would make it feel more like something changed. Then followed by the alley scene showing that despite this the games will always find a way to exist would be far better than "A bunch of people die, the island blows up, people are happy and sad, games exist the end". I just feel like it was all rushed so the creator can just be rid of this titanic weight he felt in making more seasons.
 
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